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ThomasNelson
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pavndol Scribbled:
No , I am not on antidepressants, never have been and I hope I never will. Your testimony is the sort of one I look for in order to encourage some of my friends... it actually says it all and YOU should write a book. Get out there and say- so- redeemed....... "Then God moved in my life and revealed Himself to me. I flushed my medicine and haven't used any since."...... God moved on your life and you have let go and live free.....that is a wonderful thought and it is possible. Surely that is what we should be trusting God for...not how to cope with life on medication but deliverance from long term dependancy. I have three christian friends who like Sheila, live on anti depressants and it has NOT helped them long term...the side effects are never good, any good doctor will tell you that, plus all they do is mask the underlying problem. You are right in that depression can be cause by chemical imbalance but it is actually medically rare. I did not realise that by raising the point I have, that there would be a response. As I said at the start, my purpose is not to find fault but to raise some serious misgivings about the type of content found in books like this.
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duponthumanite Replied:

I, also, have serious misgivings. Religion and psychology should never be mixed, and they are different again from chemistry and physics! (I like my disciplines separated).

01 / 29 / 2010
ThomasNelson
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pavndol Scribbled:
No , I am not on antidepressants and never ever have been and I hope I never will. Your testimony is the sort of one I look for in order to encourage some of my friends... it actually says it all and YOU should write a book. Get out there and say- so- redeemed....... "Then God moved in my life and revealed Himself to me. I flushed my medicine and haven't used any since."...... God moved on your life and you have let go and live free.....that is a wonderful thought and it is possible. Surely that is what we should be trusting God for...not how to cope with life on medication but deliverance from long term dependancy. I have three christian friends who like Sheila, live on anti depressants and it has NOT helped them long term...the side effects are never good, any good doctor will tell you that, plus all they do is mask the underlying problem. I did not realise that by raising the point I have that there would be a response. As I said at the start, my purpose is not to find fault but to express my misgivings regarding the content found in chrisitian 'how too' books like this one.
ThomasNelson
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pavndol Scribbled:
No , I am not on antidepressants and never ever have been and I hope I never will. Your testimony is the sort of one I look for to encousrage some of my friends... it actually says it all and YOU should write a book. Get out there and say- so- redeemed....... "Then God moved in my life and revealed Himself to me. I flushed my medicine and haven't used any since."...... God moved on your life and you let go and now you live free.....that is a wonderful thought. Surely that is what we should be trusting God for...not how to cope with life on medication but deliverance from long term dependancy. I have three christian friends who like Sheila, live on anti depressants and it has NOT helped them long term...the side effects are never good, any good doctor will tell you that, plus all they do is mask the underlying problem. I did not realise that by raising the point I have that there would be a response. As I said at the start, my purpose is not to find fault but to raise some serious misgivings about the type of content in christian 'how to' books like this one.
ThomasNelson
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pavndol Scribbled:
I have appreciated reading your opinions and I found them helpful although I don't see it in the same way you both do. The only other thing I would say regarding the women of faith movement and any other event where attendees pay to go and hear these women (or men ) who are highly paid to talk about God, is that I don't get it. The God of the bible provides everything for free...merchandising your experience doesn't seem right to me ..but may be I am wrong. I have nothing against a person who needs anti depressants, I am just not sure they should be selling their story as 'Let go and Live free' because in reality they are not. Now for anyone who has suffered extreme trauma, which I have as well, I am not criticising you - I just do not see these women as the fine upstanding citizens you have implied they are. Do you know for instance how much they do get paid? I know that Steve Arterburn who owned them, sold the company to Nelson and it was NOT at a loss. I am not involved in Christian fundamentalist acitivities but if a persons hope is not in Jesus Christ then no amount of Women in Faith conferences can help you whoever you are and whether you are famous or not . Thanks for your comments though, and Diane, thank you for being open about what has happened to you and I am glad you have found help.
ThomasNelson
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pavndol Scribbled:
Am I the only one who reads these books by christian women who have been incredibly successful and live like 'stars' lacking nothing materially within the real world, then write about how difficult their lives have been and how God has helped them. Am I the only one who doesn't trust books like this? I have absolutely nothing against Sheila Walsh and women like her but I do find it difficut to take this seriously. By her own admission she lives on anti depressants so what exactly is Jesus helping her to 'Let go' and live free from...am I missing the point completely here ?
pavndol

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I should probably add that I have not read this book yet and may be I should before commenting any further...it just troubles me that the whole women of faith movement seems to be tied in with books the speakers write about themselves and are then published by Nelson ...who bought the 'company from Steve Arterbun their founder who acts like a cross between a pimp and a tele evangelist.

09 / 03 / 2009
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