Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j53II0G11109; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <000601c56868$378f68c0$0200a8c0@PCdeborah> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Deborah J.C. MS CCC/SLP" <deb_bil_slp@yahoo.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10912] Re: pumarosa as ESL teacher's aide X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 6065 Lines: 168 Was looking at your site...please tell me on pumarosa.com where I can find pronunciation info..thank you ****************************************************************** DEBORAH JILL CHITESTER M.S.,CCC/SLP Bilingual Speech-Language Pathologist Second Language, Literacy & Learning Connection, LLC -Attaining Success for Second Language Learners- Web Site: www.SLLLC.org E-mail: djcslp@slllc.org 732-398-1796(Tel/Fax), 732-642-5118 (cell) Confidentiality Notice: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein including any reliance thereon is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL ROGERS" <pwaynerogers@yahoo.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10911] pumarosa as ESL teacher's aide > My web site has been expanded to include many grammar > lessons for intermediate students, especially verb > tenses. Soon we will publish some text books. > Below is an explanation and a letter of recommendation > for those interested. > Paul Rogers > > INTERNET ESL-FREE > Introducing PUMAROSA.COM > For ESL Multimedia Learning Centers > PUMAROSA is a free, interactive, bilingual web site > for beginning and intermediate adult Spanish-speaking > ESL students. > Because there is no registration, typing, or much > navigating, PUMAROSA is extremely easy to use. > Therefore, students with little or no computer skills > are able to start learning English immediately - plus > computer basics. > Focusing on English pronunciation, PUMAROSA assists > the students in their transition to English only > classes. > PUMAROSA therefore serves as an effective teacher's > aide. > Textbooks and cassettes are also available at low > cost. > For more information, contact > Paul Rogers: > 805-403-9743 > e-mail: paulwaynerogers@yahoo.com > > Letter of recommendation- > Dear Colleagues, > I have been in contact with Paul Rogers of > Pumarosa because we have had such a positive reaction > from our students using this site. A computer > session is part of almost all of our ESL classes. We > have recommended > several internet sites in addition to the programs > already installed on > our computers. At times, nearly half the class is > using Pumarosa. I > asked the students what they liked about it they said > that it was easy > to understand and they liked that everything was > explained in Spanish. > They also liked hearing the sounds in English. From > an instructor's > point of view, I have several comments. First is that > many of our > students come to us completely computer illiterate. > To see these > students, within a few class sessions, using an > Internet site is very > exciting and speaks about the accessibility of the > site. > > If you are not familiar with Pumarosa, it is an > audio/visual English > learning site for Spanish speakers. It starts with > very basic concepts > such as the alphabet and the pronunciation of each > letter. It gives > the Spanish translation and a phonetic spelling which > a Spanish speaker can understand, "he (ji)" and of > course the pronunciation in English, which is, may I > add, very clear and well pronounced. It is very > step-by-step, explaining, in Spanish, concepts like > verb conjugation and pronouns and giving lots of > examples, which are pronounced in English and > translated to Spanish. > > This, however, brings us to an interesting point > pedagogically. > Although the pendulum has been swinging toward the use > of L1 (first language) in ELL (English Language > Learner)classes, it is still used with a precautionary > tone. My experience both as a teacher and a student > also direct me toward a more limited use of L1. > HOWEVER the reactions of the students seem to be quite > the opposite. The students appreciate it and > continually speak of their frustrations in English > immersion classes, where they were completely lost, > didn't learn anything, and finally gave up. > > Thinking about this I have many theories. One is > that TVCC is in an > agricultural area and typically our students do not > have strong > literacy backgrounds in their native language. This > type of learner, it seems to me, may need more support > from L1, at least at the beginning. (I think not for > the learning of English, but just the reassurance that > somebody understands them, since they don't have > academic backgrounds and aren't totally comfortable in > a school setting to begin with.) > HOWEVER, Pumarosa is very similar to a course > that I helped develop while I was in Mexico, Ingles > Total. My supervisors there, who were very well > educated professionals, also insisted on a lot of > translation. > > One thing courses like Pumarosa and Ingles Total > do well is to address > the specific problematic areas of a particular > language group, in this > case, Spanish. So I'm left wondering about the > relative strengths and > weaknesses of programs that rely on a lot of > translation and those that > don't, Rosetta Stone, for example. > > All comments welcome. > Mona Curtis > ESL Coordinator > Treasure Valley Community College > 650 College Blvd. > Ontario, OR 97914 > www.tvcc.cc > 541-881-8822 x 316 > fax 541-881-2747 > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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