[NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:2955] Fwd: "bloggs are so yesterday"

From: David J. Rosen (DJRosen@theworld.com)
Date: Sat Jul 19 2003 - 14:57:12 EDT


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NIFL-Technology Colleagues,

I am posting this message for Heide Wrigley who was not able to post it 
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> From: "Heide Wrigley" <hwrigley@aiweb.com>
> Date: Fri Jul 18, 2003  11:01:39 PM US/Eastern
> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov>
> Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:2953] "bloggs are so yesterday"
> Reply-To: nifl-technology@nifl.gov
>
> Actually I'm just kidding but I have heard this from a new crowd of
> college kids (and others) who are now into f'logs ("photologs") which
> allow them to post pictures with captions and then comment on what
> others have posted.  In some cases, actual stories get posted (fiction
> or non) and then people comment on those. There is constant
> cross-fertilization as people visit each other's sites and post their
> favorites on their own f'log sites.
>
> I'm not at all sure if this model would be appropriate for students but
> the idea of having students work with captions and short stories might
> help to move on-line language learning from interactivity (where you
> merely respond to questions) to  "intercreativity" (where you help
> create new content for the web)- this is of course true for "bloggs" as
> well. And bloggs certainly offer more "time on task" if the goal is to
> have students spend time using language to explain, share, and express
> ideas.
>
> F'logs might interest some of the more technologically sophisticated
> students since it also becomes a way of sharing evocative photographs 
> of
> one's life in the U.S. with family and friends in other countries while
> being part of a larger community at the same time, which by the way has
> some expectations that you post something worthwhile. They certainly
> could be integrated into the virtual visits that David Rosen has been
> involved with.
>
> I can see projects fairly easily flowing out of virtual visits.  Glenn
> is right, projects require a community and a question or topic worth
> exploring and knowing about.  I think Susan Gaer's "cost of living
> project" where students list what it costs to live in their city (in
> terms of rents, a litre of milk, or a gallon of gas) could be easily
> extended to an international audience. Adding the wages for common jobs
> might help to flesh out the picture
>
> More soon
>
> Heide Wrigley
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Heide Wrigley
>
> hwrigley@aiweb.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marian Thacher [mailto:mthacher@otan.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:32 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:2934] Re: what is Internet Literacy?
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> A couple of comments, below. (indented)
>
> Glenn writes:
> .
>> The crucial thing in any case is dialog, trust and presence.
> .
>
> 	I like that, and I agree. Building trust and developing
> relationships is
> a lot of what needs to go on in online discussions, and it's hard to do
> that with non-native speakers below a certain level. But, I bet there's
> a
> way.
>>
>>
>> Research strategies, expressing opinions in online debates, 
>> maintaining
>> personal privacy, useful resources, personal publishing (blogging 
>> jumps
>> to mind) are all tools that can be used to help learners become more
>> confident.
>
> 	Have you used blogging with students? That's another thing I'm
> thinking
> about, because it's easy to set up, but then you have to go to each
> student's site to read their blog, right? And get the students to read
> each other's. So then a discussion board seems much easier to manage,
> but
> there's something to be said for having your own web site where you can
> post whatever you want. Maybe they're two separate things, discussion
> boards for discussion, and blog sites for publishing your individual
> thoughts and opinions.
>
> 	For those who are wondering, blogging is short for "web logging"
> and is
> kind of like keeping your journal online for others to read. People 
> look
> for bloggers with similar interests and comment on or link to their
> entries. I think there are a number of sites set up for this, and it's
> free. One such site is http://www.blogger.com/, run by Google.
>
> Marian Thacher, OTAN
> www.otan.us



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