PROPOSAL FOR MEETING THE

BASIC REQUIREMENTS FOR RESOURCE PLANNING
     Environmental Protection Agency
  Federal Water Quality Administration
            Southeast Region

              January, 1971

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       PROPOSAL FOR MEETING THE


BASIC  REQUIREMENTS  FOR RESOURCE PLANNING



                  By


               G.  V. Lyle

            Chief  Economist
    Environmental Protection Agency
 Federal Water Quality Administration
           Southeast Region
           Atlanta, Georgia

            January, 1971

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                     PROPOSAL FOR MEETING THE




             BASIC REQUIREMENTS FOR RESOURCE PLANNING  -




                                By






                            C. V. Lyle
          This paper is concerned with the practical aspects of




public and private group efforts at planning—both short- and long-




term.  Coordinated planning between programs and areas must be




developed from commonly accepted economic base data projections.




Such projections for small areas can best be achieved through the




creation or reorientation of a center in each state with official




responsibility for developing state and local area projections.




This responsibility would strengthen rather than conflict with the




programs of Federal agencies or of state agencies now in the




Federal-state cooperative programs in such fields as current




estimates of local area population and personal income.




          In this connection, please permit me to make the obvious




point, as a matter of emphasis, that a major problem stems from




the fact that we (professional economists, planners, administrators,




and so on) are far better supplied with national, regional, and




state projections than with those of a local nature.  However, it




is the local projection which must be used for most investment




planning.
I/   The word "Resource" is used in its broadest sense—the human




resource as well as others more commonly included.  It is suggested




that these basic requirements apply not only to plan formulation and




evaluation but to effective implementation as well.




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                  The Nature of Data Projections





          My own experience as a professional economist has been




more explicitly related to efforts at developing program and project




plans for Federal agencies.  Consequently, this paper will likely




be oriented more toward Federal efforts than might be desirable.




However, we believe it can be demonstrated that the basic require-




ments for meaningful planning (amenable to successful implementation)




are essentially the same; whether Federal, non-Federal public, or




private.  Details required for specified purposes will, of course,




be quite different, but all planning must be concerned with assump-




tions regarding changes in population, employment, and industry




during the period for which the plan is developed regardless of




whether planning is for water quality control, education, highway




construction, product and sales, or other action.  In brief, our




primary concern is people.




          Irrespective of the meaningfulness of such projections,




many Federal plans are required to cover periods of 50 years or




more.  One basic argument for these long-term considerations is




that capital is oftentimes "sunk" in structural facilities having




a physical, if not economic, life of 50 years or more.  If these




structures, as is often the case, are relatively inflexible




regarding purposes and alternative uses, it is apparently assumed




that they must be demonstrated to have a measurable use value for




the built-in purposes and uses for the estimated life of each structure

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or group of structures.  Actually, although this phenomenon is

likely more common to Federal projects (such as big dams and

reservoirs) it is certainly not unique to them.  Private construc-

tion frequently requires commitments for 20 to 30 years or more.

Poor individual planning for the construction of a private residence

often leads to economic and social hardships, if not near disaster,

for example.  Private business and industrial structures and appur-

tenances, particularly the more expensive ones, involve more people

and a longer time span over which they succeed or fail, as a rule,

than does a private residence.

          The preceding discussion is not intended to infer that

the best possible planning can always assure success or that the

use of resources will necessarily be optimized in any real sense.

Robert Burns, I believe, put it more succinctly.  However, it is

expected that realistic and meaningful planning will minimize the

probability of failure.  There are numerous reasons for this, some

of which are quite obvious.  The greatest weakness lies in the

assumptions which must be made because there are no "facts" and

relatively few reasonable certainties available regarding the

future conditions, even for the short-run, much less for the long-

run.  As a matter of record, I think it can truthfully be said
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that relatively few facts are available at present.  Much of the

data we use as factual are actually out of date before becoming

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available for our use.  Consequently, about all we can be reasonably


certain of is that which we can see.  However, from a practical point



of view, that is approaching too closely the position illustrated by


the story of the two Quakers discussing the trustworthiness of man.


One said, "Brother, I've concluded that I can trust no man except


me and thee—and, sometimes I have my doubts about thee!"



          It is patently impossible to plan without some form of


projection.  Even assuming that everything remains static and in


its current condition  (such as a plan based upon the present situa-


tion with respect to price levels, technology, population, industry,


and so on) an implicit projection of this condition has been used


and it is likely the worst possible assumption that can be made


because experience shows that changes will most certainly occur.


The uncertainty relates to the degree and direction of change.


Rather than belabor this point, however, please permit me to refer


you to a paper by Professor Ormond Corry, which deals with the


problems inherent in attempts to develop rational user projections

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in considerable detail.—   In this paper he differentiates between


projections and predictions or forecasts.  As Professor Corry



correctly says in his paper regarding projections, "....the things


to watch are the assumptions, and the implicit assumptions may
2/ "Potential Demand and Current Resources for Medicare Services:


The People, Their Numbers, Ages and Family Incomes to 1975," by


Ormond C. Corry, The University of Tennessee.  Paper presented before


the Statistical Section, Annual Meeting of Tennessee Public Health


Association and Conference of Public Health Workers, October 6, 1966.

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range from the choices and uses of input data to over-simplifica-




tion of complex phenomena."  The most sophisticated projections




have explicit statements regarding what the author considers to




be the major assumptions.




          Unfortunately, our experience indicates that small-area




projections are, or should be, influenced to some degree by implicit




assumptions which are not, perhaps cannot, be stated at all.  How




does one state the effects of religion, community mores, general




attitudes, political schisms, etc., on community growth?  I have




observed some of their effects within numerous communities during




more than 30 years of involvement in water resource development




studies.  In many of these studies, primary data were collected




through interviews with thousands of individuals and firms.  In




many instances, it was found that the economic status of an entire




community, sometimes an entire county, was significantly influenced



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by one or more of the mathematically "non-quantifiable" —  factors.




How else, for example, does one explain the absence of the most




lucrative agricultural enterprise from a community located in




the middle of a larger region noted for producing the commodity




in question?  Other factors being essentially the same, individual




explanations were that "it was against their religion to use the




product or to produce the crop."  These and other similar experiences
3/  Not usually quantified or taken into explicit account in




mathematical projections.

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and observations have convinced me that the most acceptable small-


area projections must take into account the factors which are difficult


to quantify, even though a somewhat generalized and subjective adjust-


ment for them is resorted to.  This element of the problem was one of


many reasons for creating, using, and encouraging the continued use


of advisory committees comprised of the most knowledgeable local


people practicable in each State of the Southeast Region for arriving

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at mutually acceptable projections for use in planning.—
tjj   See "Georgia County Population Projections as Developed by the


Georgia Social Sciences Advisory Committee," by C. V. Lyle and


published by the Industrial Development Division, Engineering Experiment


Station, Georgia Institute of Technology, February 1968, (pp 1-7), and


"Economic Problems of Water Pollution Control in the Southeast" by


C. V- Lyle, USDI, FWPCA—a paper presented at the annual meeting


of the Association of Southern Agricultural Workers, Louisville,


Kentucky, February 5-7, 1968, (pp 2 and 3).

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           Need for a Commonly Accepted Projective Economic Base





          Meaningful planning, responsive to minimum needs for evalua-




tion, requires that attempts be made to describe the following




situations:




          1.    The future condition expected to prevail in the




          absence of the planned effects of new programs or projects




          proposed.  A curve drawn to describe this condition over




          time may be called the "normal" —   growth path.




          2.  The future condition as modified by expected effects




          from the planned program or project.  A curve drawn to




          describe this condition may be called the "planned" —




          growth path.
V    "Normal growth path or "normalized"projections—




      As used, this refers to expected future growth in the absence




      of newly planned or unanticipated programs, projects, technological




      developments, and so on.  All major assumptions, as well as assumed




      inclusions, should be stated.  Pertinent parameters involved are




      specified separately, with interactions and interrelationships




      taken into full account.




6_/    "Planned" growth path—




      This is intended to reflect the new rate of growth assumed to be




      caused by the program or project under consideration.  The same




      major parameters are described separately for the "planned" growth




      path as for the "normal."

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          3.  Obviously, if all reasonable alternatives are




          examined and taken into appropriate account, a growth




          path must be developed and described for each alterna-




          tive.  An evaluation of each alternative, when compared




          to others assigned to meet essentially the same objectives,




          can be expected to result in one being recommended over




          the others for achieving the program or project objective




          for changing the "normal" (without program or project)




          growth.




          4.  The differences between the "normalized" growth




          path  (without program or project conditions) and the




          "planned" growth path (with program or project conditions)




          provide the information required for describing the impact




          of any plan or alternative plan when implemented.  As




          inferred in item 3, above, it also provides the appropriate




          basis for evaluating such impact.




         The evidence is clear that plans are commonly made and




evaluated without reference to a common and mutually acceptable




point of departure—such as the one we have chosen to call the




"normalized" growth path.  However, when this is done, practically




all possibility of achieving comparability between plans is lost.




An engineer, for example, who accomplished his work through the




use of "temporary bench marks" does essentially the same thing in




principle and, although it may serve his immediate purpose just

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as well, no other engineer will know how to check his work or




compare it with similar work performed by others.  On the other




hand, however, if he uses "mean sea level" as his point of departure,




others can determine his point of departure, can check his results,




and can perform their work in a manner designed to secure comparable




results.




         "Normalized" projections may be viewed as the social




scientist's equivalent of the engineer's "mean sea level" for survey




and related planning purposes.  At this point, it should be emphasized




that, although it makes comparability of results possible, it does




not assure such comparability.  However, use of a common base does




make it possible, as well as feasible, for others to check for




comparability with other programs and projects.  Without it, however,




such checks are practically impossible (at least, not usually




feasible).  Much more, I am sure, could be said in favor of the




use of a commonly acceptable point of departure for planning




purposes.  Much may also argue against such procedures.  Most




arguments, however, which militate against this approach are




equally applicable to any other approach utilized for estimating




future conditions.  Planning, by its very nature, is futuristic




and demands either deliberate or indeliberate use of projections.

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                     Need for a State "Center"





         As I see it, adequate organizational and institutional




arrangements for implementing a satisfactory solution to the




problem of providing a commonly accepted projective economic base




will involve the use of state "centers" in which the professional




competence has been developed to perform the analytical work, the




projections, and the coordinating functions required.  It will also




involve the use of advisory committees to provide the input of




local knowledge required to take account of the effects of the social,




cultural, and religious peculiarities of each small area for which




projections are developed.  The advisory committee —  should also




serve as a competent group for reviewing results produced by the




"Center" to ascertain their mutual acceptability for planning and




implementation purposes—Federal, non-Federal public, and private.




This will require the maximum "feedback" practicable, if it is to




function most effectively and in a manner satisfactory to most




participants.  Another advantage of the committee approach is its




ability to provide a meaningful forum for communication on the




development and uses of projections.





Justification




         It is said that "an idea whose time has come will not be




denied."  Numerous Federal and state actions (many of them recent)




recognize the need for coordination and cooperation in many fields
11   See footnote 4 above.

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of mutual interest.  The tremendous response to the individual and




purely voluntary State Social Sciences Advisory Committees created




on an informal basis throughout the Southeast, beginning over five




years ago, indicated the widespread realization that a problem existed




(and still exists) in the area of economic base projections which




needed correction.  Among planners, this conclusion appears to be




almost unanimous.




         The need for a recognized and competent "center" in each




State to develop and, especially, to coordinate small-area economic




base projections to serve as the underlying basis for planning is




indicated by the following observations:




         1.  The tendency to proliferate unnecessarily—i.e., the




         development of too many duplicative projections which are




         often not only unrelated but inadequately described and




         substantiated.  This propensity has appropriately been




         described as the "reinvention of the wheel."




         2.  The tendency to leave gaps—i.e., the failure of




         current "hit or miss" methods to develop any projections




         for certain small areas.  Any tendency in this direction




         can be avoided by the use of the "Center" concept.




         3.  The tendency to produce small- and intermediate-area




         projections in a "vacuum"—i.e., the failure in too many




         instances to appropriately relate projections of the expected




         growth of one area to that of other closely associated areas

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 and to  the nation  as  a whole.   Interrelationships  and




 interdependencies  among  and between  areas must be  taken




 into  appropriate account if projections  are  to have




 acceptable validity for  planning purposes.




 4.  The tendency of most projectionists  to omit  adequate




 statements of  assumptions,  methods,  and  techniques used.




 This  leaves  the potential user  in  a  quandary not only  as




 to  the  validity of the projections for any purpose but,




 even  if accepted on "good faith,"  uncertain  as to  their




 applicability  in solving his planning problems.  The ones




 the Committees are currently using fall  in this  category.




 Although they  are  used as the "best  available,"  we would




».certainly prefer more acceptable ones.   A "Center" adequately




 staffed for  this purpose can be expected to  help correct




 this  situation.




 5.  The tendency of each individual  or group, irrespective




 of  competence, to  assume an "accuracy" in their  own projections




 and an  "inaccuracy" in all  others.   This only leads to con-




 fusion.   Except for the  mechanics  of the calculations  used,




 we  contend that obtaining "accuracy" in  a projection is as




 impossible as  developing "perpetual  motion." What we  are




 seeking is "acceptability"  to users. This must, of course,




 include "validity" for the  purpose for which the projections




 are used.  To  achieve mutual acceptability,  we feel the

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        initial effort of the "Center" must be limited to developing




        a "normalized" projection designed for use as a basis for




        planning—not a projection that embodies the effects of any




        new plan or technological development in addition to the




        effects of normal growth trends in their absence.  Developing




        projections with this in mind avoids implications of pre-




        empting the authority and responsibility of others for developing




        future plans designed to modify growth patterns (whether delibe-




        rately or indeliberately).  It also avoids the impossible task




        of foreseeing and measuring the impact on growth of unknown




        future technological developments, economic movements, and so




        on.  It does, however, provide a stable basis for measuring




        impacts of new programs, projects, technological developments,




        and so on, as they emerge and are clearly defined.




       I think it is obvious that tremendous inefficiencies exist




because current procedures utilized in developing projections for use




in planning are basically unsound and ineffective, and they are most




certainly far from satisfactory to most professional people involved




in planning (i.e., economists, planners, engineers, administrators,




and so on).  Great savings of both public and private capital can be




expected to result by eliminating duplicative efforts and the results




will certainly be more acceptable for planning and program evaluation




and implementation purposes.

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Responsibilities of the "Center"



       A first responsibility of the "Center" should be to develop,


coordinate and disseminate all official current estimates of State


and small-area demographic and related economic base values required


for use in planning.  Most states already have one or more centers


which perform portions of such work.  None, however, with the possible


exception of Georgia, have explicit charges to develop long-term


economic base projections which are compatible with those Federal


water resource planners are required to use.  Georgia now has an


Act entitled "Georgia Act 1066, 1970" which recognizes the need for


intergovernmental  cooperation and which meets the same requirements


of the Bureau of the Budget Circulars Federal agencies must meet.


And, by interpretation of the Act's provision by the Director of the


"Bureau of State Planning and Community Affairs", which was created


by the Act, this State agency will develop the competence required


and act as the "Center" for the State of Georgia.


       A statement provided by Professor Ormond C. Corry in response


to my request for  a review of an earlier draft of this paper sum-


marizes work now underway by state agencies in the fields of current

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estimates of local-area population and personal income.
8/   Also see Ormond C. Corry, "Filling the Intercensal Data Gap:


Census Bureau Cooperative Estimate Program,"  Tennessee Survey of


Business, April 1970, pp. 3-6, 16.

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   "The Georgia State Planning Bureau and state university




centers or bureaus of business and economic research in other




southeastern states are participants in the Bureau of the




Census' Federal-State Cooperative Program for Local Area




Population Estimates.  These agencies have been designated




as state representatives by the governor's office in each




state and the Census Bureau has created a new publication




series for national distribution of their annual population




estimates.  Thus, the estimates should attain official




status for intrastate uses and provide bases for more




extensive demographic work.




   "Also, the university bureaus of the southeastern states




have accepted for analysis and publication the Office of




Business Economics annual estimates of personal income by




county.  Reports have been published by the Kentucky,




Mississippi, and Tennessee bureaus and other state reports




are being prepared.  The bureaus are now developing plans




for expanding this interstate cooperative work, which has




been done through the County Income Conference, to include




broader based economic analyses and projections for local




areas.  The projections are to be consistent with official




or authoritative national data such as those on population,




personal income and employment developed for the Water




Resources Council by QBE, and, possibly, the employment-




occupation manpower projections by BLS."

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        Responsibility for historical information and current




estimates requires coordination among various Federal departments




and agencies having a legislative mandate to provide, among other




data, the input elements of the economic base.  Thus, in addition




to the programs cited above, the Water Resources Council has




current responsibility for coordinating the planning for all




Federal water resources agencies.  With support provided by the




Council, the Office of Business Economics, Department of Commerce,




and the Economic Research Service, Department of Agriculture, have




made, and are now revising to completed form, statistically con-




sistent population, employment, and personal income projections




for selected years to the year 2020 for the "QBE Economic Areas"




and the Water Resource Planning Areas of the nation,  as jointly




delineated by Federal, State and local agencies.




        The essence of this proposal is that the "Center",




whether it is a State agency with a broad multiple purpose




program or a new special mission one, should have officially




designated responsibility for developing, coordinating, and




disseminating short- and long-term State and small-area economic




base projections.  Principal concern at present should be the




development of State and small-area projections which are completely

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compatible with (and as disaggregations of) —   those being developed

by the Office of Business Economics and the Economic Research Service

(OBERS) for the Water Resources Council.  The authoritative and compre-

hensive nature of the Water Resource Council projections gives them an

"official" status other projections do not have.  They provide the

normalized growth paths for QBE Economic Areas and Water Resource

Planning Areas required by many agencies and groups.  They also provide

an ideal basis for the development of disaggregated and commonly accept-

able projections for smaller areas and other area combinations which,

in turn, provide the flexibility required of the economic base values

if the many and diverse planning purposes of the various planning

groups are to be served.

        As the "Center" develops staff competence and capability, it

can be expected to accept contractual responsibility, as may be found

mutually desirable, for providing expert assistance needed by "action"

agencies having specific authority and responsibility for formulating,

evaluating, and implementing programs and projects.  Both public and

private agencies and corporations (including consulting firms) can be

expected to utilize the services of such a "Center" in the interest

of their own internal efficiences and flexibilities as well as in the

interest of the general public.
9/      There is a disagreement among experts in the field regarding this
point.  Comparability and compatibility are of vital importance and may be
more easily obtained through use of the same statistical procedures in
disaggregating "OBE Economic Areas" to smaller areas as were used by QBE
in disaggregating national values to Economic Area values.  However, there
are other important considerations to be accounted for in making small-area
projections, as previously indicated, which are not accounted for in the
OBE model or any other purely disaggregative model with which I am familiar.

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                Staffing and Cost of State "Center"





     Staff requirements and cost can vary tremendously, depending upon




what view is taken regarding the scope of responsibilities of the "Center"




as well as upon the acceptable output made available by other closely




related agencies and groups.  Most Bureaus of Business and Economic Research,




for example, already have the authority and staff capability to develop




the demographic and economic estimates required as a basis for projections,




to analyze current and historical data, and to make both small- and




large-area forecasts  (usually short-run—one year or less).  A few have




become involved in relatively long-run projections.  None, however, have




yet integrated these with the national projections of the Water Resources




Council in a manner calculated to make them useful for planning by both




Federal and non-Federal resource planners (particularly, water resource




planners who are coordinated by the Water Resources Council).  Thus far,




the latter statement is also applicable to State planning agencies.




     In the preparation of  this paper, advice was sought from numerous




knowledgeable individuals within the major universities and State planning




agencies of the Southeast.  In responses received, some of the variations




as to the size and composition of a staff for the "Center" are likely




explained by the differences in usable related work currently being per-




formed in each State.  Most of the variations, however, appear to involve




conceptual differences regarding the appropriate functions of such a center.

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All respondents —   who specified staff composition were generally




agreed on the disciplines required for the task to be performed by




the "Center".  Most of the differences involved specialties within




the broad disciplinary groups.  In all cases, it was proposed that




the director of the "Center" be an economist (either an economic planner




or analyst, regional economist, "an economist with broad experience




in Macro theory and applications," and so on).  As was pointed out by




Mr. Trott —  "he [the director] should have the capability to come to




conclusions in the area of socio-economic and demographic problems for




small  geographic areas.  Also, he must be able to make these decisions




in the absence of 'perfect' data...  Additionally, the director should




be.... politically astute at both the State and local level...."




        In one way or another, it was recognized that (in addition to the




economist-director) staff competence must be available to the "Center"




on a routine basis for the following specialties:  (1) demography,




(2) computer programming, (3) agricultural economics, (4) graphic




illustration, (5) sociology,  (6) civil engineering, and (7) statistics.
10/   The term "respondents" is used here to refer to those reviewing




preliminary drafts of papers on the subject under discussion in this




paper and is comprised of professionals given credit under the section




on "Acknowledgments" for contributions to it.




ll/   Edward A. Trott, Jr., Supervisory Economist, Economic Service




Branch,  Regional Economics Division, USDC-OBE.

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I would also add:  (1) industrial engineering, (2) industrial economics,




and (3) hydrology (flood and drought probability analyses in particular).




If program and project impact studies are to be undertaken, photo inter-




pretation specialists can also be of great help in reducing the cost of




identifying significant cultural features of the landscape ahead of




necessary field investigations.  This specialty, however, may be expected




to be a part of the qualifications of one of the others already mentioned




(particularly one of the engineers).  When, and if, impact studies are




undertaken many other disciplines will also be required.  However, it




can be expected that the agency authorized to perform the work will




provide them.




     Most of the disciplines and specialties would not be needed by




the "Center" on a full-time basis.  Consequently, a major problem is




contingent on arrangements for having them available to the "Center"




when needed—without employing all on a full-time basis at a prohibitive




cost for the purposes at hand.  Solution to this problem, as a first




step, involves the careful analysis of institutional, organizational,




and staffing arrangements available within the State (on a practical




basis) for accomplishing any part of the total task visualized as the ulti-




mate responsibility of the "Center".




     There are two basic organizational approaches to the problem which




either have been or may be used successfully in the above connection.




Each has its own advantages and disadvantages.  One involves location of

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the "Center" in a unit of State government  (particularly in instances




where current legislation requires that a unit of State government have




responsibility for all estimates and projections for planning purposes




as was indicated for Georgia).  Another involves locating the "Center"




within a Bureau of Business and Economic Research (or its equivalent)




at a major State university.  It is my understanding, for example, that




the latter is the most probable course of action to be followed in the




states of Alabama and Florida.  In other states of the Southeast, the




course is not equally clear.  Some combination of the two basic approaches




may be required in some states and would likely prove more efficient in




all.  In the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Planning Board is clearly




recognized by all Commonwealth agencies as  the appropriate one in which




to locate the "Center".  Plans are currently under way through which




cooperative efforts between the Planning Board and the Office of




Business Economics, U. S. Department of Commerce, will be utilized to




create an effective "Center" within the Planning Board while, at the




same time, generating needed small-area data and developing both large-




and small-area economic base projections for use in planning.  Required




personnel are already available to the Planning Board.  Specialized




training of a designated nucleus will be required, however, to form the




"Center" for the purpose at hand.  A part of the QBE effort will be to




provide the necessary training.  In Virginia the basic elements of the




"Center" suggested in this paper already exist within the Research




Section, Division of State Planning and Community Affairs, Governor's




Office,  Commonwealth of Virginia.

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Minimum Initial Staff


     To develop the "normalized" small-area economic base projections


required as a basis for planning (item 1, page 6), a minimum full-time


staff will be required.  From the expert advice received, it appears that,


to be acceptable and effective, the minimum initial staff for the "Center"


should be comprised of one economist  (regional or similar background) as


director, one assistant  (demographer, economist-demographer, engineer-


planner, or planner), one research assistant and one clerk-typist.  At

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the  salary rates indicated by Mr. Griffis —  as current in Virginia, the


minimum  staff described  is estimated  to cost approximately $60,000


annually (including overhead at 20 percent and travel at $10,000).  This


minimum  staff can  function effectively only if it maintains near perfect


communication with and receives complete cooperation from the following


groups,  as we understand is the case  in Virginia:  1.  The Bureau of


Population and Economic  Research of the Universi'ty of Virginia  (or its


equivalent), 2.  The Bureau of Vital  Statistics of the State Health


Department (or its equivalent), 3.  The Employment and Security Commission


(or  its  equivalent), 4.  The Department of Labor and Industry (or its


equivalent), 5. Industrial Development Division (or its equivalent), and


6. all user agencies (such as Department? of Conservation, Highway Departments


and  so on).  In addition, liaison and cooperation must be maintained with


QBE, Census Bureau, and  other related Federal data generating agencies as


well as with Federal user agencies.   A Bureau of Economic and Business
9/  Mr. Robert J. Griffis, Economist, Research Section, Division of State


Planning and Community Affairs, Governor's Office, Commonwealth of Virginia.

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Research (or Center for Business and Economic Research) could be expected




to function equally well, perhaps better, with the minimum staff suggested




(or, possibly, with even less addition to existing staff).  In either case,




however, arrangements must be made to take account of the impact on growth




of agriculture (including forestry and fisheries).  Close cooperative




working relationships with the agricultural experiment station, particularly




with the department of agricultural economics, may be utilized to solve




this problem.  Whether this will add to the annual cost of operating the




"Center" will, of  course, depend upon how much of the work required is




being performed under existing and continuing authority and appropriations.




In all  cases, unnecessary duplication of effort should be avoided in the




interest of efficiency.




     Under current circumstances and institutional arrangements in




Virginia, Mr. Griffis indicates that, in his opinion, an adequate staff




would consist of- the minimum described, plus an additional assistant to




the director, another research assistant, and a data clerk.  This would




add at  least  $20,000 to $22,000 to the annual cost of the minimum staff




previously described.




     The preceding evaluation is in close agreement with five of the six




responses specifying both staff and costs received from university and




State and Federal  agency representatives (estimated annual costs suggested




by them ranging from $40,000 to $100,000).  The highest cost estimate,




however, placed annual costs of the "Center" at $225,000.  It included a

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programmer, a graphic illustrator, one or more reference clerks, an




agricultural economist, and a demographer, in addition to the minimum




staff previously indicated.  In addition to considerably higher salaries




than Mr. Griffis indicated for Virginia, this cost presumably allowed for




some computer time also.  However, the estimate assumed that "some specific




components of the Center's work would be 'contracted out'," and did not




include the contract amounts.  So, in effect, the highest estimate was




$225,000, plus  the cost of any required contract work.




     It is possible that the higher cost estimates indicate a less




desirable  institutional and organizational arrangement for accomplishing




the task at hand rather than a more sophisticated product.  Consequently,




they may indicate  a lower  degree  of efficiency in performing the required




work.   From a practical standpoint, however, it must be recognized that




under  certain legal, institutional, and organizational arrangements the




higher estimates may well  be in order if an acceptable output is to be




obtained—at least until the indicated constraints can be removed.




     Flexibility of the staffing  pattern (i.e., the ability of the




"Center" to utilize specialists from other departments on a part-time




basis;  purchase required computer, graphic illustrator, and other services;




and utilize data and analytical output from other competent sources) can go




far toward minimizing  the  annual  cost of work performed.  It can also add




to  its  attractiveness  as a center for performing work required by planners




and others in helping  to evaluate the impact of proposed development




programs and projects  (items 2 and 3, page 6).

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Potential




     The ultimate potential of the "Center" is probably beyond one's




ability to visualize.  I think it is clear, however, that evaluation




of social and economic impacts of proposed programs and projects, as




well as of new discoveries and related technological developments in




terms of their effects upon the economic base, requires the same expertise




as is required in the development of the normalized economic base itself.




Consequently, it follows that the competent group  brought together in




a "Center", as described, and properly trained to develop acceptable




values  as a basis for planning can be expected to serve as the nucleus




around  which  a most  efficient and effective staff for evaluating the




impact  of proposed programs and projects can be developed.  Because of




the  probable  variations in requirements within a State at different




points  in time as well as the variations between states, any attempt to




specify the number of staff members and cost at this place and time would




be relatively meaningless.  However, we will attempt to indicate some of the




uses and potentials.  The nature of the projections undertaken, the




geographic and parametric detail required, the availability of data




required (whether staff effort is required to generate data), and




similar factors will dictate the ultimate size, character, and composi-




tion of the "Center's" staff as well as its overhead and operating costs.




     Assuming acceptability and availability of the "Center's" output,




all planners  (Federal, State, and local—public and private) can be




expected to make use of the basic projections developed.  As previously

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indicated, it is anticipated that many, if not all, of the user agencies




(users of the basic projections) will eventually recognize and make use




of the capabilities of the "Center", if fully developed, for purposes of




evaluating the social and economic impacts of proposed programs and




projects, to the extent possible.  This is expected to occur in the




interest of internal efficiences and increasing the acceptability and




effectiveness of their proposals.  Some of the major user agencies and




groups,  as indicated by participation in our various State Social Sciences




Advisory Committees, are as follows:




      Federal—  (1) Department of the Interior:  FWQA, BOR, and




      Bureau of  Commercial Fisheries; (2) Department of the Army,




      COE;  (3) Department of Housing and Urban Development;




      (4)  Department  of Agriculture; SCS, ERS, FS, and FHA;




      (5)  Department  of Commerce, EDA; and  (6) TVA.




      State—  (1) Planning and  development offices, bureaus, or




      departments  (or their equivalents);  (2) departments of health,




      particularly air and water pollution  control activities and




      comprehensive health planning; (3) departments or boards of




      conservation;  (4) departments of commerce (or equivalent),




      particularly offices of research and  planning; (5) departments




      of  industry and trade (or  equivalent);  (6) regional (or area) planning




      and development commissions which are officially a part of State




      government, and (7) waterway authorities.

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   Local Public—  (1)  City  planning  boards  and commissions;  (2)




   committees of 100;  (3) county  planning boards  and commissions;




   (4) regional  (or area) planning and development groups not




   officially part of  State government;  (5)  local and regional councils




   of government; and  (6) city  and area chambers  of commerce.




   Private—  (1) Telephone  and  telegraph companies, (2)  power and




    light  companies,  (3) market  planning and  research corporations,




    (4)  consultants,  (5) news and  related companies; (6)  industrial




    development associations, (7)  gas corporations, and (8)  research




    institutes.




         In addition to the  preceding, the Resources Advisory Board;




Southeast River Basins, is a multi-state entity which is  currently  a




user of the population projections from the  Advisory Committees. Many




other agencies and groups can be expected to use the output from the




"Center" when approved by the "Advisory Committee".  The  Department of




Health, Education,  and Welfare—particularly planners for Hill-Burton




Hospitals and those responsible for educational needs within the Office




of Education—can be expected to become a major user.  State and local




planning to meet these needs must also become a user.  The same is  true




for local, State, and Federal planning for transportation.




         As was indicated by Mr. David Kay,  Economist for HUD, Atlanta,




the need for implementing the "Center" concept is so obvious and the




potential savings in Federal, State,  and local costs so great as to suggest

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 that  implementation  should not be  delayed  any  longer than absolutely
 necessary.   He  pointed  out that HUD  can  be expected  to  use the  output
 "in all  of  its  program  allocations,  particularly  in  housing, plus  local
 planning agencies  funded by HUD (such  as local councils  of government,
 regional metropolitan and local planning agencies, and  so  on)."

                         Acknowledgments
          During a  period of approximately  30 years of working with
 many  individuals and groups interested in  improving  the  situation
 with  regard  to planning (six years in  water quality  control), I have
 received much help and  encouragement and many  new insights  into the
many problems involved  and into a  few  of the possible solutions.
 Important contributions have come  from so many that  it is  impossible to
 give diie  credit to all.  Each member of  the State Social Sciences
 Advisory Committees  (which have been operative for about five years)
 has contributed in one way or another  and  the  vast majority in a most
 constructive manner.
         Although  the errors and omissions in  this paper are entirely
 those of  the author, as previously indicated,  much of the  inspiration
 and encouragement  and many of the  ideas  came from discussions and
written communications  from others.  Some  of those who have been
 especially helpful are:  (1) Mr. Kenneth A. Ackley,  Jr., State of
Tennessee; (2) Mr, Daniel E. Alleger,  University  of  Florida;
 (3) Mr. Owen D.  Belcher, Corps of  Engineers, U. S. Army;  (4) Dr. R.  E.
Beller, University of Florida; (5)   Professor  J.  H.  Blackstone,

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Auburn University;  (6) Mr. Dean  Bogart,  U.  S.  Geological Survey;




 (7) Dr. Stephen J.  Brannen, University of Georgia;  (8) Mrs.  Ellen




Bryant, Mississippi State University;  (9) Professor  Ormond C. Corry,




University of Tennessee;  (10) Dr. James  C.  Gotham, III,  University




of Tennessee; (11) Mr. John F. Davis, State of Florida;  (12) Dr. T. S.




Deitrich, Florida State University;  (13) Dr. Miguel  Echenique,




Commonwealth of Puerto Rico;  (14) Mr. Don K. Fry, Carolina Power and




Light Company; (15) Dr. Robert E. Garren, Georgia State  University;




(16) Mr. Robert E. Graham, Jr.,  Office of Business Economics, Department




of Commerce; (17) Mr. Robert J.  Griffis, State of Virginia;  (18) Mr. Hubert




Hinote, Tennessee Valley Authority;  (19) Mrs. Elizabeth  Pate Johnson,




East Carolina University; (20) Mr. T. E. Johnson, Florida Power and




Light Company; (21) Mr. J. David Kay, Department of Housing and Urban




Development; (22) Dr. W. J. Lanham,  Clemson University;  (23) Dr. Joe A.




Martin, University of Tennessee; (24) Mr. Owen Martinez, Commonwealth




of Puerto Rico;  (25) Dr. Roger   A. Matson,  Tennessee Valley Authority;




(26) Dr. Ernest E. Melvin, University of Georgia; (27) Mr. Pedro F. Mora,




Commonwealth of Puerto Rico;  (28) Professor Henry B. Moore, University




of Alabama; (29) Mr. James E. Noblin, Noblin Research; (3) Dr. Carter C.




Osterbind, University of Florida; (31) Dr.  D. W. Parvin, Mississippi




State University; (32) Mr. C. E. Poovey, Duke Power Company;




(33) Mrs. Therese H. Ramsey, State of North Carolina; (34) Mr. John Robins,




State of Georgia; (35) Mr. Ronald F. Scott, State of North Carolina;

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 (36) Mr. George K. Selden, Jr., Southern Bell Telephone and




Telegraph Company; (37) Dr. W. D. Toussaint, North Carolina State




University; (38) Mr.  Edward A. Trott, Jr., Office of Business




Economics, Department of Commerce; (39) Dr. Kenneth C. Wagner,




State of Mississippi; (40) Mr. Stanley Warth, Jr., Southern Bell




Telephone and Telegraph Company; (41) Dr. George I. Whitlatch,




Georgia Institute of  Technology; and (42) Dr. J. H. Yeager,




Auburn University.




     Special thanks are due Mr. John L. Kesler of the Federal




Water Quality Administration for his patient and most helpful




editing of all drafts of this paper, and to Messrs. Frederick D.




Knapp and Wallace Greene of our adjacent Regional offices




(Charlottesville, Virginia, and Dallas, Texas, respectively)




for both moral support and material help in the committee work




associated with this  effort.  A particular debt of gratitude is




owed to Mr. Owen D. Belcher, COE-SAD, Atlanta, who provided con-




tinuous moral and material support from the beginning of the




Committee work in seeking a common and mutually acceptable base




for planning.

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