Two-Month Payroll Tax Holiday Passed By Senate, Pushed By President, Cannot Be Implemented Properly, Experts Say

Based on the article, these partisan neutral reasons are all the more reason for Harry Reid to get back to work. You’re such a deep thinker Harry!

DEANBOB , the Senate already passed at least some sort bill , they did their job in a bipartisan vote too . The conservative Tea ( Grover Norquist ) controlled House won’t pass ANY bill unless they can have their traditional anti-environment corporate welfare ( in this case an oil pipeline ) included , nothing new here.

Just like Obama….Looks good to voters, but doesn’t work. Can you say, “Kick The Can” for two months…or just enough to get thru the Holidays?

It’s clear that the dipsricks in Washington have no clue how the real world works – especially the communists

Dave M is a blatant liar. The house has been passing bills left and right only to have them tabled WITHOUT DEBATE by the democrat senate.

No, DaveM. The Republican controlled House has ALREADY passed a one year extension of the payroll tax holiday. Like all other jobs related bills passed in the House, reid just kills them. Won’t even allow a vote in the Senate. As for the Keystone pipeline, everybody knows it’s a good idea that will eventually be approved. obama just doesn’t want to make the call until after the 2012 election. That keeps the union and environmentalist donations flowing into his coffers. That’s just sick.

Sure Dave M, it’s only those very wealthy that deserve a tax break. Now go back to kissing Grover Norquist’s backside.

Once again, the commoners point out the ‘governing’ Royals as COMPLETE IDIOTS.

These morons believe with the waive of their hand it’ll be so. Idiots!

Hey Dave M….when was the last time the Senate passed a budget? I’ll give you a hint…it was when the Republicans were in charge.
Reid is on record has saying that he will never allow any bill coming the the House to be debated in the Senate.

For all of you unfortunate souls who suffer from coulrophobia, I really do understand…

HUH? It’s already at 4.2% now. It will be at 4.2% for the first two months of 2012. Why on earth do you need 90 days to test this out?

There is a reason that classified ads never say “Wanted: Part-time law professor with community organizing experience. Applicants with real world experience need not apply.”

Where are all of those communities btw?

I agree that htis legislation won’t work, and I blame both parties (since it was a bipartisan vote!)
The deal is, we have not had a comprehensive budget bill passed sine Obama came to the White House three years ago, just a long, repeated series of stop-gap budgets to keep the doors open and spew forth billions. That’s what the stop-gap measures really do – freeze spending at current rates, which were set as parts of the “stimulus” bills.
It’s all completely insane.

JJ JONES, did you bother to read the whole article? The part that’s difficult to implement is that the Democrat Senate stuck in the bill a provision that people who earn high income or bonuses in the first 2 months of the year that is above their standard salary are not entitled to get all of the tax cut. That makes the program a whole lot more complicated than a simple 4.2% discount for everybody. I can’t imagine how much more difficult it will be to even things out if they go and extend the cut later for another 10 months as soon as the programmers get done with this request. As usual, it’s class bigotry and hate for successful high income earners coming from the libs that screws up our lives and our economy.

Been over 950 days since Dingy Harry – led Senate passed a budget.

House of Representatives have passed over 10 spending bills and Senate is too cowardly to vote on them!

Doing something for 2 months will do NOTHING – the dopeyratz controlled Senate has done nothing but stall or not bring up legislation to a vote. This is yet another example of stupidity by Harry Weird and the spineless ones.

Dave M, you are the prime example of the intentionally uninformed easily manipulatable drone the democrats look for in their “voters”. Meanwhile, Obama and the dems keep putting people out ofr work, out of their homes and drain their savings to promote the Marxist agenda by the man who wants to be dictator, Idi Amin Barack Obama!

Just like when they changed DST and caused considerable expense in re-programming system. It is clear that our elected politicians have no clue how the real world works because most of them have never held a real job.

I’ll eat my hat if a competent programmer couldn’t make these changes on a day’s notice. Perhaps these payroll service providers should go out of business: that’s the American way.

This is really a bit insane … congress is scrambling to “fix the economy” when it is the uncertainty and upheaval they are creating that is now holding back the economy. The economy would likely recover FASTER if congress went home for the remainder of their terms.

I am a programmer who has done payroll systems. Payroll systems control $$, so only a fool would slap together a change and drop it into production in one day. Also, payroll systems are used to calculate payroll for times other than “now”. They have to write date code around that logic too, so that if you run a payroll outside of that window, it wont use the 4.2%. Also, 4 months after that window, the code still has to be able to calculate the payroll from the window for a past payroll run. Believe it or not, companies actually do payroll reports for more than just the current pay period.

Payroll companies LOVE how big gov makes payroll very, very complicated. I wouldnt be surprised if the rule is way more than just a simple %. They prob added lots of other rules, like if you have a gov tax lean you dont get the discount, or if you have more than 4 kids you get an extra .5 %. In all my time writing payroll, I never saw a very simple change like this. There are always a list of “gotchas” that go with the main point.

Nancy Pelosi must have just bought stock in a Payroll Processing company.

Conservatives remind me of a ( dumber than usual ) dining room table . No use trying to explain anything to such peons / morons. We’ll see you in 2012 , and get ready enjoy the next 4 years of Obama , “Obama-care ” ( lol ) , Dodd-Frank in full force , the fully intact and US business regulating CPB up and running , along and the Democratic majority Senate and House . People may not like Democrats , but they like the conniving 1%er Republicans ( and especially the Tea baggers like Paul Ryan ) even less.

I call “Bull” on this. I write Payroll/WriteUp software for a large developer. I’ve been waiting for a decision from Congress to put the correct number in my softwares tax table file. If it changes after 2 months, I’ll just change the value in the file and send an email to the the users to download it. The code will remain the same, just one number in a file will change. If they don’t make a decision soon, I will send out my end of year release with a guess (that it will be extended) and then send a new tax file if it isn’t.

I’m voting for Nancy Pelosi , Harry Reid , Mr. Obama and anyone else who makes John Boehner , Mitch McConnell , Donald Trump and the rest of the lying p-o-s conservative slime balls run around like their hair is on fire . If it infuriates , frustrates , aggravates , annoys , etc. a conservative , I am for it. ; )

Here is a thought, stop giving money to people who don;t pay income taxes. Earned Income Credit my rear end.

I hear you Darcy , the next time I vote for a conservative will be a cold day in you-know-where. They’ve proven time and time again over the last 3 years that all they really care about is making it appear to the mostly uneducated and easily manipulated US electorate as if Mr. Obama and the the Democratic party in general are a total failure , making the country suffer even more than ever in the process . 8 years of Bush/ Cheney added to the way the conservatives have acted ( i.e. like petulant bratty kindergarteners ) since they were voted into the legislative minority in DC should have people wanting to tar and feather every conservative politician extant . Conservatives threatened to “shut down the govt” in August , and it cost the USA it’s AAA credit rating . What a bunch of irresponsible petulant numbskulls , but that’s how they do business , Newt did the same thing as the irresponsible speaker of the House when he was in the “Moral Majority ” ( Bwahahahaaha , that’s a good one…) . And now , guess what ? Same old story , same old song and dance from the Right-wingers scumbags like Boehner and McConnell , i.e. NO NO NO …. ( unless of course we can have our corporate welfare / 1%er benny , then it’s just fine for the “little people” to get a teeny weeny break , but only if /when Big Business / Big Oil get their lion’s share of the pie first .)

Sounds like a lot of Y2K Bullcrap going on here.

Complicated programs don’t have to be changed other than by adding a miscellaneous credit for the tax differential.

Programmer – The names appear below the comments. FezzyBear had the Microsoft comment , not me.

And Programmer, sorry, didn’t see your correction before I send my comment

For all the idiots out there that say “Its already in the system”, “nothing new need to be done”. You don’t have a clue. There is a ceiling under the new Senate law, that would cut off the 4.2% at a certain level of income. That ISN’T in the system. Also, as previously noted, payroll taxes are filed quarterly. Two months would be a disaster at trying to get reports correctly filed. THE IRS takes forever to get new forms out anyway. Another example of how out of touch these politicians are, on both sides, if they voted FOR this boondoggle. IDIOTS!!!!!

Two weeks? Lets stop with the stop-gap fixes and do some planning to reduce the uncertainity for those of us who work for a living

This is the kind of mindless right-wing dingbat rhetoric that makes me stop reading anything that comes after it. Just more childish patently and tacitly untrue hyperbole (i.e.a load of b/s ) from the sad excuses for human beings who can’t do anything but tell lies and half-truths apparently ( i.e. conservatives ) .
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Sadly, that how Conservatives operate. But what can we do?

The Senate and Obama need to stop their vacation and get their tails back to D.C. and give the American people something we can plan around.

Two months? For what, another last minute vote for another two months?

Pass it. Don’t pass it. Whatever. Just make it so I can figure out how to get on with my life in spite of the maroons in D.C.

I’m calling you back, Senators and President. Anyone else with me?

I don’t know why you are going after Pres.Obama, he said he was the 4th greatest president. Lincoln, FDR, Johnson and him. How can you be against anything from this administration.

NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN AND WOMEN TO COME TO THE AID OF THERE COUNTRY! HONORABLE AMERICANS VOTE THEM ALL OUT!

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.

DARCYWADE, how very bitter. It sounds like you can’t get a man. Better hit the treadmill and try to find a sale on Weight Watchers. There’s a reason married women are more conservative than single women. They have someone with more common sense around every day to help them think things through and be less irrational.

If you don’t stand for something, then you’ll fall for anything.

Social Security payments exceed the SS taxes, and the government prints money to cover the shortfall. And now we have decreased the SS taxes and the government will print some more. Simple, no?

alot of ignorrance on display here by the left … the Senate amendment is not a simple extension of the current holiday. Please read the actual Senate bill and then come back and tell us how simple it is. Until then you are justing looking stupid but thats par for your course …

Headline reads “Experts Say”. Article contains exactly zero experts. The only ‘expert” quoted is a former Bush official who is now a lobbyist for ADP. It does not appear that the quoted individual has any actual experience much less expertise in programming payroll systems.

If the people who provide your payroll system need months to change a percentage and/or a date that shouldn’t have never even been hardcoded in the first place, it’s time to get a new payroll provider.

So “experts say” translates into one single non-expert PR/lobbyist type and his concern trolling. Journalism fail.