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Concealed Knife – A knife was found zip-tied to the inner workings of a bag handle at Cedar Rapids (CID). Clever, but no match for our officers and technology. (See photo)
Chicken Soup for Your Pants? – Officers found a can of soup in a Las Vegas passenger’s carry-on bag. When told that it couldn’t go through because of the liquids rule (it was more than 3.4 ounces), the passenger said they would put the soup in their checked baggage. But when the passenger returned to the checkpoint, officers saw that the passenger had tried to hide the soup in their pants. No soup for them.
Derringer in a Dopp Kit – A Derringer was found amongst everyday toiletry items in a dopp kit at San Diego (SAN). I don’t think you could trim your nails, but I bet you could knick yourself if you shaved with it. (See photo)
Stun Pen – I’ve often heard that the pen can be mightier than the sword. Well, in this case that statement is pretty close to being true. A stun-pen was found on a passenger at Chicago Midway (MDW).
Bad Kitty – Known as a black cat, or cat eyes, this seemingly harmless kitty cat (see photo) becomes a punching weapon when your fingers are inserted in its eyes. It’s cute little pointy cat ears are designed to puncture and rip flesh.
Belt Buckle Knife – A belt buckle knife was found was found on a passenger during screening at Akron (CAK). Holy utility belt, Batman, good thing you didn’t bring your batarang and grappling gun.
More Grenades – An inert grenade was found this week in a checked bag at Salt Lake City (SLC). Another was found in a carry-on bag at San Diego (SAN) and it had a 1” knife concealed inside it.
People Say the Darndest Things: Here is an example of what not to say at the airport. Statements like this not only delayed the people who said them, they can also inconvenience lots of other passengers if the checkpoint has to be evacuated:
· An officer at Minneapolis (MSP) was searching a bag for liquids when the passenger stated: “Those are my explosives.”
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Prohibited Items:
In addition to all of the other prohibited items we find weekly, our Officers
also found firearm components, realistic replica firearms, stun guns, brass
knuckles, a agglomeration of knives, ammunition, and batons.
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You can go here for more details on how to properly travel with your firearms.
Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. Travelers should
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travel prior to departure.
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these sorts of occurrences are all too frequent which is why we talk about
these finds. Sure, it’s great to share the things that our officers are
finding, but at the same time, each time we find a dangerous item, the
throughput is slowed down and a passenger that likely had no ill intent ends up
with a citation or in some cases is even arrested. This is a friendly reminder
to please leave these items at home. Just because we find a prohibited item on
an individual does not mean they had bad intentions, that's for the law
enforcement officer to decide. In many cases, people simply forgot they had
these items in their bag. That’s why it’s important to double check your
luggage before you get to the airport.
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85 comments:
All of these items appear to be discoverable using the technology available on 9/10/01. Why exactly are we spending billions on your agency again?
How again is chicken soup dangerous to an airplane?
Would any of these items actually have been useful to terrorists/malcontents/nincompoops? Americans learned ON Sept 11 to fight back. We don't need your baby-sitting over ineffectual toys.
So what did the extra 1 billion dollars you spent on the naked scanners get us then? All of these could be found with metal detectors.
And you really count a can of soup, a non-functional decorative grenade and a one inch knife as wins? Really?
Congratulations on removing these items from non-terorists, preventing no terrorist attacks, bombings or other dangers to passengers. Especially with that soup. My my.
Also, congratulations on spending so much money to do it! I wish I could get paid so much while delivering so very little. Nice work, if you can get it.
I'm glad we're spending billions to keep airplanes soup-free.
You know I was wondering the same thing. I'm sure glad ya'll spent all that money on those body scanners that don't actually work. BTW exactly how many of these items were discovered using that technology? And by the way an inert grenade is a grenade shaped paperweight, not a grenade. It has zero threat value in checked luggage.
Except before 9/11 they could have brought the soup through just fine... wouldn't want that!
Still no information on how people with insulin pumps were "mistakenly" harassed and what you are doing about it.
Feet... Fire... ADA...
How many terrorists have you stopped? Please show proof.
way to go, you stopped someone from taking soup on a plane.....the skys are safe again.
And now, for the other side of the TSA Week In Review:
"Airport security in America is broken." So says Kip Hawley, former head of the TSA, in a recent essay.
Who Watches The Watchers? A Boston TSO was arrested and charged with possessing and distributing child pornography.
Wrong Way Corrigan: Part of a terminal at Newark airport was evacuated because someone entered the secure area without being screened, walking past a distracted TSO.
omg thanks SO MUCH for keeping the world safe from chicken soup!!!! WHEW! Billions of tax dollars well spent.
While some of these are clearly good catches, I fail to see why stopping someone from boarding an airplane with a can of soup is a success. Who exactly is being made safer by keeping soup out of a plane?
(if the answer is that it might be something more sinister inside the can... was the person arrested? the way I see it, either it was harmless soup and confiscating it was unwarranted, or it was something bad and allowing the person to go free was a serious failure)
I love how the TSA tries to inject these descriptions with pithy humor, only to follow up with the fact that under no circumstances should travelers try to be humorous. It's serious business or it isn't... pick one.
So that's what what this new "Week in Review" postings are all about. You're flaunting your TSA Easter Egg basket for the week!! Kip Hawley made it clear. TSA Screeners have an Easter Egg hunt mentality and get praised for finding things that are actually irrelevant to air security. I know you read his piece in the Wall Street Journal--Which was full of stuff TSA's been claiming BS SSI on.
Week in review a TSA employee steals IPads at Dallas airport. TSA'S response:
"The unacceptable behavior of this individual in no way reflects the dedication of our nearly 50,000 transportation security officers who work tirelessly to keep our skies safe," TSA said in a statement obtained by the station.
Obivously this unacceptable behavior does refelct TSA in every way if this is the ONLY government agency that week after week is in the news. Sure other government agencies make headlines but TSA is consistently in the news every week. And sadly none of it is good, this website is the only thing positive about TSA. Why? Better hiring standards and promotion standards or STEP ASIDE!-Privatize!!!
How many of these items were going to be used on the airplane? Do we seriously believe that the ruthless soup-smuggler was planning to hijack an airliner with his food product?
I don't think you can blow up a plane with a can of soup. How many millions of dollars will we continue to waste on an organization without the good sense not to brag about such useless discoveries?
I'm curious. How many terrorists has the TSA arrested and/or terrorist attacks has the TSA stopped? Several sources state ZERO, but that can't be right...
The TSA should start intimidating....err..strongly cautioning media outlets to not print Kip Hawley's letter. Did you see all the supposed SSI stuff he wrote in it? Can't wait to see what else is in the book.
So the "Bad Kitty" can be used to "tear and rip flesh." OH NO! Do you know what else can be used to tear and rip flesh? Pretty much any metal item allowed through security.
As security expert Bruce Schneier points out, almost anything made of metal can be sharpened into a blade once you're through security. Just break off the handle of your rolling bag and sharpen the end and you have a great spear. Or sharpen the knie you still get handed in first class. It's that easy.
Given that, it's time we acknowledged that the TSA is completely ineffective and pointless. Under most circumstances I would say that we should just ignore them, but they insist that they have the right to spend billions of tax dollars and reach into our pants, so rather than ignoring them, I am afraid we're going to have to take the time to disband them.
The world is a much safer place because that soup was not allowed on the plane. I agree with the first post that it looks like all of these would have been caught with pre-9/11 security.
That person could have divided the soup into 3.4 oz containers, placed them in a quart bag and taken it through security. They could have placed the entire can of soup into a quart bag ans not been allowed to take that through security. Why is that? It's the same amount of liquid. I understand the quart bag limits the amount of liquid, but what is the point of the 3.4 oz containers? The total volume is still the same.
Second that, while I greatly am glad our country has the TSA and I appreciate your work, the current methods are not better. You're sadly stuck in a system where the people in charge are too stubborn to realize that they should be doing statistical comparison on safety rather then generalization.
I'm sure plenty of commentors are mentioning Kip Hawley's WSJ article, and each of those comments are being filed in the deleted piece of the delet-o-meter pie. TSA's public relations tactics are equal to that of Kim Jong Un.
I'm just astounded at how many people carry a firearm without a round chambered. Come ON people. If you have to deploy that thing, it's going to cost you precious time. Keep the safety on and keep the gun in a properly-designed holster, and it is 100% safe to carry most guns with a round chambered.
Hey Bob,
Are you going to comment on the article in the Wall Street Journal on 4/14/2102 discussing how bad the TSA is operating?
It ties in to this article because the author, who was head of the TSA during Geo Bush, said there is too much of an easter egg hunt mentality among screeners.
Re: "Second that, while I greatly am glad our country has the TSA..."
You must be a TSA employee!
Everyone knows TSA is a miserable bureaucratic failure that protects no one.
Who would have thought that in 10 short years the TSA could replace the IRS as the most hated governemnt agency.
"No soup for them."
Did you miss entirely the irony in quoting Seinfeld's "Soup Nazi" here? Have you learned nothing from so many other sad attempts at being pithy?
I love the new line that's tagged onto every single story about the TSA and its workers...
"The unacceptable behavior of this individual in no way reflects the dedication of our nearly 50,000 Transportation Security officers who work tirelessly to keep our skies safe," the agency said.
Wow. I'll bet this is required training for every security director - how to repeat this and not laugh when saying, since it's said almost daily!
Truth is that the unacceptable behavior of this, and many other individuals, reflects the organization that is full of criminals of various types.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/04/13/3882741/tsa-inspector-accused-of-stealing.html
"An officer at Minneapolis (MSP) was searching a bag for liquids when the passenger stated: “Those are my explosives.”
Would this not be a reasonable response if the TSA agent held up a bottle of water? After all, it won't be allowed through because it's a threat - likely because it's possibly an explosive - so why wouldn't a literal-minded passenger refer to it that way?
What about the guy, a murderer, who got through the TSA in NY with a fake passport? Why didn't your vaunted ID clerks or the even-more vaunted BDOs catch him?
Screen shot.
what exactly is the tsa budget and what percentage of the national budget is goin to the tsa?
2011 US budget $3.83 trillion, tsa budget abour $8.1 billion. talk about a drop of water in the ocean.
please look at a list of items and focus only on one, aka soup. common people wake up. if a bomb gets on board and is detonated how many passengers are going to wrestle the person to the ground after it goes off? quit focusing on the small picture. pre 9/10/11 security would not detect explosives on a person.
Who is Jon Corbett?
I know one item that are not being found on lugagge....iPads.....TSA is "pre-emptibly removing then without owner consent" because....well, you all know those items were the prefrered weapon on 9/11....so it is not "stealing"....it is called "Keeping America Safe......
Anonymous said...
"pre 9/10/11 security would not detect explosives on a person."
Post 9/11 security doesn't either. The body scanners are not explosive detectors. The TSA likes to pretend they are, but they don't really work.
Bob ... why are comments approved out-of-order? My comment wasn't approved in the first batch of 20 approved comments, but suddenly showed up today ...
Anonymous said...
what exactly is the tsa budget and what percentage of the national budget is goin to the tsa?
2011 US budget $3.83 trillion, tsa budget abour $8.1 billion. talk about a drop of water in the ocean.
please look at a list of items and focus only on one, aka soup. common people wake up. if a bomb gets on board and is detonated how many passengers are going to wrestle the person to the ground after it goes off? quit focusing on the small picture. pre 9/10/11 security would not detect explosives on a person.
April 15, 2012 5:05 PM
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First off each little drop in the bucket quickly leads to a full pail. TSA has historically wasted large sums of taxpayer monies. Explosive Trace Portals come to mind and I suspect the Strip Search Machines are soon to follow. I see no problem with requiring all federal agencies to be responsible when spending tax monies or we will have another GSA on our hands.
AS far as the can of soup, TSA could have quickly tested the can with ETD and determined if the item was a threat or not. The current restrictions on LGA's has no basis in science and is done to show the public that TSA is doing something when we all know that TSA is broken. Even Kip Hawley, the former Administrator of TSA has admitted that TSA is on the wrong path. I have to wonder just why John Pistole isn't smart enough to realize that TSA non-functional.
"what exactly is the tsa budget and what percentage of the national budget is goin to the tsa?
2011 US budget $3.83 trillion, tsa budget abour $8.1 billion. talk about a drop of water in the ocean. "
$8B is a drop in the ocean?!? Remarkable, unquestionably the justification of someone who is in the employ of this failed, horrible agency.
"pre 9/10/11 security would not detect explosives on a person."
And neither will post 9/11 techniques. You have to go beyond the TSA propoganda to get to the truth. The very inventors of the technology feel that it is easily defeated.
Dogs would be much more effective but the TSA workforce is not sufficiently skilled to handle explosive dogs.
"pre 9/10/11 security would not detect explosives on a person."
TSA has never detected explosives on a person.
"Aside from obvious weapons capable of fast, multiple killings—such as guns, toxins and explosive devices—it is time to end the TSA's use of well-trained security officers as kindergarten teachers to millions of passengers a day. The list of banned items has created an "Easter-egg hunt" mentality at the TSA. Worse, banning certain items gives terrorists a complete list of what not to use in their next attack. Lighters are banned? The next attack will use an electric trigger."
-Kip Hawley, Director of the TSA 2005-2009
How many of the items on your list should have been allowed, according to the standards the former TSA director suggests?
1st: I think it's great that the TSA publishes this blog every week. Yes, the TSA does have a bad rap, but at least they are trying to be open, honest and trying to work with the public. Well done!
2: People are really picking on a "can of soup" as some sort of joke point? How are we supposed to know what's in said can? Should we flaunt all the rules? Heck no. The fact that a passenger actually plain faced LIED to the TSA about their intentions is bad enough, what else did they lie about? Plus I doubt it was some sort of "rare collectible" can of chicken soup. Buy one when you land for crying out loud!
3: You're saying the TSA protects no one? My god, are you LOOKING at some of the LOADED GUNS people are trying to bring onto airlines? The knives people are trying to conceal and bring on board? With all the stories lately of people going nuts on airplanes, how long before someone (who's not even a terrorist!) just decides to attack passengers because "The dog told me to!". Frankly I'm grateful that the TSA made another "catch" this week!
Flying is a pain, that's for sure. Being stuck in a metal tube for hours, no leg room, your neighbour practically sitting on your lap. Yup, I even admit, I hate having to que, take off my shoes, empty my bags, get scanned, repack everything..... and I really wish I didn't have to do that. However, if anything, this blog has shown that the general public can't be trusted to act responsibly for air travel, let alone anyone with terrorist beliefs.
If you don't want to deal with the TSA, don't fly! If you NEED to fly or WANT to fly, but believe things should be run differently, then petition your local Senator. Require them to fly coach on public airlines rather than have their private jets paid for out of our tax payer money! I promise you, things will change a heck of a lot quicker then.
As for the TSA? Well done and thank you for trying to make the airways safer for us.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130543/Video-captures-agonising-TSA-pat--woman-sobs-groped-TSA-agent.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Video shows agonising TSA pat-down - as woman sobs in 'sexual violation' at hands of TSA agent
By Daily Mail Reporter
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This is what stasi style TSA security brings America.
Interesting that the majority posting on here have nothing good to say about the TSA and that no terrorists or terrorist threat has been prevented by the TSA. How exactly do you all know that ?
Isn't it faintly possible that there have been no attempts to bomb planes because the terrorists now know they will likely get caught so prefer to concentrate their efforts elsewhere. Even hijackings will not be repeated since no passenger is ever going to let a hijacker control a plane without a fight.
You people need to get out more.
most of these items are clearly for self defense...
i still cannot believe this is America. i was always taught to protect yourself and family. not give up all your rights and weapons, so the TSA (which another in dallas was just arrested for STEALING ipads from passengers) can "save us" from terrorists and chicken soup.
are you serious bro?
anon said:
Post 9/11 security doesn't either. The body scanners are not explosive detectors. The TSA likes to pretend they are, but they don't really work.
really? they dont detect explosives? they detect anything that does not conform to the contuers of the body, including explosives. they are designed to stop someone from hiding explosives on their person, just as Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, aka the underwear bomber. i like the people that say that you can hide explosives in your body, very true. so do you want this type of search in the future?
rb said:
First off each little drop in the bucket quickly leads to a full pail. TSA has historically wasted large sums of taxpayer monies. Explosive Trace Portals come to mind and I suspect the Strip Search Machines are soon to follow. I see no problem with requiring all federal agencies to be responsible when spending tax monies or we will have another GSA on our hands.
AS far as the can of soup, TSA could have quickly tested the can with ETD and determined if the item was a threat or not. The current restrictions on LGA's has no basis in science and is done to show the public that TSA is doing something when we all know that TSA is broken. Even Kip Hawley, the former Administrator of TSA has admitted that TSA is on the wrong path. I have to wonder just why John Pistole isn't smart enough to realize that TSA non-functional.
so you live in a dream world do you rb? history is history, why dont you focus on larger areas of corruption like the whole lobbying process? do something for the greater good, instead of preaching from your soapbox. its a good thing that the tha agents arent real officers like say the secret service, because they never do anything wrong...
what is your experience with this etd machine? are there tyoes of explosives that it doesnt search for?
once again if tsa allows people to bring large liquids in again then they will need to be inspected and tested. do you know what that means
? MUCH longer lines. im for less time spent in line. what i find interesting is that people arent accountable for their actions. how long has the liquid ban been in effect? and people still bring these items? give me a break!
Wow...you know things are bad at the TSA when the former leader writes an article in the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) entitled "Why Airport Security Is Broken - And How To Fix It". As Mr. Hawley stated in the WSJ article "The relationship between the public and the TSA has become too poisonous to be sustained." Unfortunately, Mr. Hawley along with many other TSA leaders have failed to acknowledge that most Americans do not want to be virtually stripped searched, radiated, or groped to board an airplane. Until you are your other colleagues at the TSA recognize that fact, your wasting our time and tax dollars with these silly and useless weekly posts.
I flew two weeks ago from FAT to SLC with a can of soup in my carry on. Obviously your policies are not the same across the board.
I would like to see what would happen if we got rid of the TSA for just 6 months. I bet the number of passengers would greatly decrease do to fear for safety, and there would be an outcry by the same people on here bashing the organization as to why the government doesn't secure our airlines. Also, I think there would be a high probability that terrorists would strike again, in a way that would put 9/11 to shame. Believe it or not the TSA does deter terrorist acts just by their mere presence. People need to quit finding things to complain about.
Thank TSA! You guys are great heroes defending america! Thank you for fighting terror everyday!
Wow. Did you guys check for a spoon with that soup? Imagine the damage that could have been done with the spoon, considering the epidemic of spoon attacks in the US. Soup-spoon terrorists abound.
Great job guys. It only cost us a few billion for you to thwart a soup holocaust.
I am a frequent traveler, and I for one appreciate what these men and women do. All this coments about the knives and Guns and if these items could really assist a terrorist. Everyone seems to be forgetting that the planes that were taken over on 911 and used to take done the WTC were taken over with a small boxcutter. I am sure that the shoe bomber went thru a metal detector, but that did not stop him from getting explosives on a plane, as they are not metal. so therefore a metal detector would not detect them. We are losing sight of the fact that they are here to protect us. Yes the people on those planes fought back, but they, and thousands of others died. These people are in place so tha others will not have to take as those brave souls did on 911. Just to clarify, I am not a TSA employee, but am a retired police officer who understands that sometimes a little inconvenience is worth the safety of potentially thousands of people.
"really? they dont detect explosives? they detect anything that does not conform to the contuers of the body, including explosives."
And yet, the naked body scanners have never detected a single explosive on anyone's body. Right, Curtis?
What happened to the soup after it was caught the second time? Was it thrown into the trash can next to the checkpoint? If it was, then we all know it was harmless. If not, was the bomb squad called in to safely dispose of it?
The soup would have been permitted if separated into 3.4 oz containers. Why is a can of soup more dangerous than several smaller containers containing the same amount of liquid?
Speaking of 9/11, does anybody believe that somebody is going to use a box cutter (a permitted item at that time by the way) to take over a plane? The only reason it worked was because everyone was told to cooperate with the hijackers. That obviously changed starting with flight 93. If you want to test this, you don't even need a knife or box cutter. All someone would have to do is run towards the cockpit. There's no danger to the plane because of the hardened cockpit doors. I bet the fellow passengers aren't going sit and do nothing.
If any of you use Netflix, there is an interesting documentary about the TSA and aviation security called "Please Remove Your Shoes" available through streaming. I thought it was interesting seeing former TSA head Kip Hawley testifying in front of Congress years ago after reading his article in the Wall Street Journal saying the TSA is on the wrong path.
Did they find these items on a older lady again!!!
Anonymous @ April 16, 12:58 PM said...
If you don't want to deal with the TSA, don't fly!
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Okay. If I don't want to deal with the TSA, I won't fly.
Guess I'll take a train.... no, wait, TSA has shown up at Amtrak stations.
Okay, fine, no train. I'll take the bus! No, wait, TSA's shown up at bus stations as well.
Okay, no train, no bus. Guess I'll just drive myself... no, wait, TSA has shown up on highways.
Guess I'll just stay home. That's still safe for now, right?
Regarding this week’s catches, I see two Gerber Mark 1 knives. The cammo handle one is likely a recent model and not worth much, but the silver bladed grey handle one could be a keeper! Heck that leather sheath alone is worth a 100 bucks on Ebay. Is there a post about how to recover a confiscated item, or is there any chance you guys will auction these goodies?
What is the actual rule for traveling with diabetic medication and who can you speak to when the TSA screener wants to confiscate your gel or ice packs (twice) or your actual injection pens??? Last trip this happened at EWR and the screener said I had to prove it was medication since the pen was over 3.4 oz. The only way was to take a shot, thus wasting the medication and causing my blood sugar to drop. Why are the rules abitrary and capracious?
Anonymous said...
"really? they dont detect explosives? they detect anything that does not conform to the contuers of the body, including explosives."
Many explosive are pliable and can be easy molded to conform to the contours of the body. The body scanners are very bad at detecting explosives.
Anonymous said...
What is the actual rule for traveling with diabetic medication and who can you speak to when the TSA screener wants to confiscate your gel or ice packs (twice) or your actual injection pens??? Last trip this happened at EWR and the screener said I had to prove it was medication since the pen was over 3.4 oz. The only way was to take a shot, thus wasting the medication and causing my blood sugar to drop. Why are the rules abitrary and capracious?
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You should have asked for a supervisor or a police officer. They should not force you to take a shot just to prove it's medicine. That's just dangerous in the first place to be messing with your blood sugar like that. If this ever happens again, you have to stand your ground. Eventually someone will have some common sense and let you through.
I wear an insulin pump and carry extra insulin and have never been questioned about it. The only issue I have is that I can't go through the scanners due to the manufacturer's recommendation. That always leads to the enhanced patdown. It's a shame I have to be groped that much just to get on a plane due to an involuntary opt-out of the scanner.
As a diabetic, you can carry juice or other liquids over 3.4 oz through. They can be used to treat low blood sugar. I've never tried carrying a bottle of juice though. I figure it's going to be more trouble than it's worth. I don't want to be the next big catch on the weekly blog post about confiscated items.
TSA is the biggest scam. I wish NASA had your unnecessary budget.
Jim Huggins sez - "Bob ... why are comments approved out-of-order? My comment wasn't approved in the first batch of 20 approved comments, but suddenly showed up today ..."
Sometimes when we are moderating we only have a list of 25 comments pop on the first page (the old Blogger format), and we address them. Since we all have duties other than the blog page, we might get the first batch of 25 done, and then have to come back at a later time to finish what is in the queue. Another reason some are overlooked until later times is that they get dumped into the SPAM folder for no reason and we have to ferret them out and publish them.
West
TSA Blog Team
Omegaman sez - "Regarding this week’s catches, I see two Gerber Mark 1 knives. The cammo handle one is likely a recent model and not worth much, but the silver bladed grey handle one could be a keeper! Heck that leather sheath alone is worth a 100 bucks on Ebay. Is there a post about how to recover a confiscated item, or is there any chance you guys will auction these goodies?"
Please read up on the process for items that are surrendered to TSA in one of our previous blog posts here:
http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/09/what-happens-to-your-prohibited-items.html
Hope this helps and take care!
West
TSA Blog Team
And exactly how many terrorist attacks were actually thwarted by all these confiscations of private property?
Did anybody else notice the Boondock Saints pistol grips?
If the people on those planes that were crashed 9/11/01 were able to defend themselves, this blog would not exist.
Unknown said...
If the people on those planes that were crashed 9/11/01 were able to defend themselves, this blog would not exist.
Those people didn't know the towers were the target until it was to late. Flight 93 passengers learned from relatives of the hijackers intentions and took action. I love the way people spin this around to use as a tool against the TSA.
anon said:
"Wow...you know things are bad at the TSA when the former leader writes an article in the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) entitled "Why Airport Security Is Broken - And How To Fix It". As Mr. Hawley stated in the WSJ article "The relationship between the public and the TSA has become too poisonous to be sustained." Unfortunately, Mr. Hawley along with many other TSA leaders have failed to acknowledge that most Americans do not want to be virtually stripped searched, radiated, or groped to board an airplane. Until you are your other colleagues at the TSA recognize that fact, your wasting our time and tax dollars with these silly and useless weekly posts."
whats really interesting is that hawley had just as big a hand in the bad image as anyone. he came up with the liquids ban. whats really interesting is that instead of sticking around and actually doing something to improve the image he quit.
I'll start believing liquids are a threat when the TSA people start treating the confiscate liquids like they're actual threats.
You know, instead of throwing them in the trash next to their stations.
Bob, could you explain why, if liquids are too dangerous to bring on to an airplane, when you take mine you simply toss them into a trash receptacle with the rest of the garbage? Shouldn't there be some hazardous waste procedures in place to ensure they aren't A) a danger to the garbage collection personel, and B) stolen to use in a terrorist plot against another target? If you're not worried about those two things, say because they are not actually dangerous, why not just let me keep them?
Can you explain how this isn't just posturing, to produce an illusion of security?
It's not about abolishing or removing the TSA. It's more about setting better screening guidelines, guidelines that are more reasonable and logical. TSA's screening and confiscation of so-called "PROHIBITED" items is way beyond reason and logic. People have to be more worried on what's in the cargo hold of the plane that what's inside the cabin. A knife can't put a plane down, more so can a can of soup.
Again, it's more about being logical and reasonable.
Anonymous said...
"Can you explain how this isn't just posturing, to produce an illusion of security?"
The illusion of safety is good enough for the TSA. The TSA isn't about safety, it's about making people *feel* safer so they keep buying airplane tickets. It's basically government support for the airline industry.
"No soup for them."
And no intelligence, common sense, discernment, judgment, or critical thinking skills for you.
What is a worse fate - to be subject to a stupid phony baloney security system, or to believe in it?
Anonymous said...
anon said:
"Wow...you know things are bad at the TSA when the former leader writes an article in the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) entitled "Why Airport Security Is Broken - And How To Fix It". As Mr. Hawley stated in the WSJ article "The relationship between the public and the TSA has become too poisonous to be sustained." Unfortunately, Mr. Hawley along with many other TSA leaders have failed to acknowledge that most Americans do not want to be virtually stripped searched, radiated, or groped to board an airplane. Until you are your other colleagues at the TSA recognize that fact, your wasting our time and tax dollars with these silly and useless weekly posts."
whats really interesting is that hawley had just as big a hand in the bad image as anyone. he came up with the liquids ban. whats really interesting is that instead of sticking around and actually doing something to improve the image he quit.
April 19, 2012 6:56 PM
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and now happens to be peddling a book..........
What would you think would sell more copies? A book about how great the TSA is or a book about how bad it is and how it compromises the security of the nation and what a hero he was when he was in charge but was forced out before he could reform the agency single handed? I met the man a couple of times. He was just another self congratulating politician looking to make a name for himself and move up (or at least make a bigger salary so he could take a pension and get out - or write a book).
The problem with the soup can is easily resolved; just send the passenger's soup can through the same process that screens the literally thousands of soda, water and juice cans that are availavble in the "sterile" area.
Each and every one of those cans *is* subjected to extended scrutiny, is it not?
"http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/09/what-happens-to-your-prohibited-items.html
Hope this helps and take care!
West
TSA Blog Team"
The high value items will never find their way into the surplus arena and will, I can assure you, be taken home by TSO's who realize what's at stake.
I personally want to thank you for saving the world from soup. Canned soup usually contains enough sodium to cause serious problems.
Majority rule, my .
They found someone's soup-but totally missed a fully loaded 15 round 9mm Glock magazine that was in a side pocket when I had to grab a different bag right before leaving for the airport. I had to use the bag I normally use when I go to the range, because Pukey the cat decided my normal carryon bag was a good place to barf that morning. Was a bit of a surprise when I unpacked my bag at the other end and found the magazine there. Great Job guys.
and my friends wonder why I refuse to willingly fly anymore.
Were any of the possessors of these items arrested and charged with a crime? Were any of them likely to even try to injure a fellow passenger with one of the items (much less take down the plane with them)? The thing is, all kinds of items--many things not currently banned by the TSA--can be dangerous in the wrong hands. In fact, the actuals hands of some people can be deadly. All of this ridiculous searching for and confiscating of more and more banned items is a colossal waste of time and money in addition to be a massive invasion of the rights and privacy of American citizens. (Is the government just trying an odd way of stimulating the economy? “Let’s just think of more things we can pilfer from the flying public so they’ll have to replace them.”) People have the potential to be dangerous—not things! Look for people with malicious intent. Taking away all of these items only means you have succeeded in taking away people’s items. It’s extremely unlikely you saved a person, much less a plane. Planes might actually be safer if good people had something they could use as a weapon if terrorists turned up on a plane.
Hey Bob, one of your co-workers stole diamond earrings out my checked bag. Was that a big catch too? Whats worse, your organization says it "may respond in as little as 60 days" to my claim. Thanks for keeping the sky safe from those diamond earrings, I hope they fetch you a good sum at the pawn shop.
While I agree that the screening done is necessary, I don't understand the prosecution of individuals who honestly did forget they had a gun in their bag or luggage. Many folks carry legally with permits and I can understand how they might forget to remove a gun with today's hectic lifestyles. Authorities attempt to prosecute people that have had clean records for 50 years much the same as people that were trying to get by with something. An honest oversite can end an individual's career and cause a serious financial burden. These folks don't need to be incarcerated or rehabilitated. Just seems there should be something in place to address the unintentional events, rather than full blown prosecution.
If people were allowed to carry gun on board of plane there would be no 9/11.
Re: chicken soup - in all reality it probably ended up being someones lunch at Tsa. I mean after it beats having to buy airport food. Those discounts are a joke.
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