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August 21, 2009

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Great post! Thanks for the information on your investigation.

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The local representative of Mesaba Airlines should be fired. It is absolutely unacceptable that someone in that position be so ill informed and unaware of the logic involved in such a thing.

Actually, I'd like to see the local rep put in jail for awhile - perhaps one week per passenger. But realistically speaking, probably firing is the best that can be hoped for.

These airlines need to make sure they train people.

This only points out that stupid people are in position of authority and control and need to be weeded-out. I would hope that a serious repreimand or dismissal was in order on this one. Somewhere up the food chain is a manager who recognizes the stupidity and takes responsibility for correcting things. This is not PhD work.

Mr. Secretary ...
How is it that a plane full of people is held hostage and no one is at fault?
How is it that your department has done nothing for years now as this has been allowed to continue?

If my business held people against their will for hours in unsanitary conditions without access to basic necessities and then threatened them with arrest if they resist, I'm going to jail.
How is it that the captain of the plane is faultless when he allowed the situation to continue for hours?

Why was the captain not able to exercise his Pilot In Command authority and let the passengers off the plane and into the terminal? FAR 91.3 authorizes him to do this.

Also, could he not have gotten assistance from Ground Control at the airport, even if Mesaba was unwilling to assist?

It is amazing that this story has received so much press. While I can sympathyze with those folks it is an increasing problem. While a WMATA bus driver can be charged with kidnapping for not letting someone off the bus, airlines don't seem to be held accountable at all.

I have been stuck this year on the tarmac, multiple times, for as long as 4 hours only to be greated with excuses. The system needs to be changed and airlines, where applicable, need to be punished.

Really? That makes absolutely NO sense.

How could Mesaba been the ONLY organization able to help the patrons? Continental could have called Signature Flight Services since some of the private jets that they service are larger than the Embraer that ExpressJet was flying.

Finally, how did NORTHWEST secure a bus for its passengers and CO couldn't? CO waited almost 2 hours after the flight diverted to even attempt to secure a bus, if needed and even then, NW had to pull the Airbus to the gate to offload pax. Seems like XJT is going into CYA mode.

I hope the action on Mesaba Airlines will include a fine of some kind because that will really get their attention. Who ever it was at thfe airport that was the Mesaba representative should at least have a note put in their personnel file. And a better communications process needs to be set up between airlines to deal with situations like this one. Best wishes, Michael E. Bailey.

I work for Minnesota Public Radio and noticed our Bob Collins (online news *and* a pilot) worked up the pilot audio timeline with notes: http://bit.ly/1seir For someone like me - who doesn't know the ins and outs of the industry (i.e. carriers all have 24-hour operation centers that can communicate with each other) and perhaps internet commenters, who can't understand why the passengers were as patient as they were... it is interesting to hear the story unfold from the communications end. It is a new, wonderfully transparent world.

Meanwhile, it sounds like Mesaba Airlines CEO "respectfully disagrees" with the DOT's prelim findings.

I'm collecting information in front me, wondering about the resolution. How long will it take to fully unravel the story, and what will it take before passengers hear of the final ruling on a time limit standard?

i have an idea -- DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NOW!!! Dont just propose rules... IMPLEMENT THEM AND ENFORCE THEM. NOW.

If I were held against my will in a small space for 7 hours, I would later be suing for having been kidnapped.

In what way does this NOT qualify as kidnapping?

This is an out cry, there was no one from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) available to screen passengers. But, in fact, TSA procedures allow passengers to get off the plane, enter the terminal and re-board without being screened again as long as they remain in a secure area.

Surely someone should take the blame for such a fiasco, and a few lessons can be taken from this problem. Mark@ http://www.airportessentials.com

I travel much and this story horrifies me as I feel how humiliating the position of the passengers was. Thanks for paying attention to this matter!

Absolutely not fair,I'm just thinking of the passengers situation,It's horrible.. I read out your previous blog also and i got a clear idea on it now,Keep updating!!

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