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Posted by Randy | April 14, 2011

Over the past several years, we have seen an increasing number of circumstances where U.S. judges have interjected international law into their rulings, allowing laws from other countries to supersede the laws of our own Constitution.

I believe this is wrong. It is the responsibility of our Courts to interpret the U.S. Constitution as was written by our Founding Fathers
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I recently cosponsored a bill to prevent the misuse of foreign law in Federal courts. H.R. 973 plainly states that “In any court created by or under Article III of the Constitution of the United States, no justice, judge, or other judicial official shall decide any issue in a case before that court in whole or in part on the authority of foreign law.”

You can read more about this legislation in an article written by the bill’s sponsor, Congresswoman Sandy Adams, in the Washington Times.

Our laws should be measured against our Constitution, not international precedents. What are your thoughts on this bill?


UPDATE (12/14/2011):
The House Judiciary Committee has compiled the following summaries of U.S. court cases relying on foreign law:

Last year, in Graham v. Florida, the Supreme Court issued a blanket holding that the Eighth Amendment bars life without parole sentences for all non-homicide juvenile defendants, citing a "global consensus "against the sentencing practice. This "global consensus" was used to buttress the Court‘s claim that "evolving standards of decency" barred such sentences. The Court reached this conclusion despite that, at the time of the decision, 37 states and the District of Columbia allowed juvenile life without parole sentences. Nonetheless, the Court apparently placed a premium on the judgment of foreign legislators over American legislators in interpreting the bounds of "cruel and unusual punishment" under the American constitution.

In the 2005 case Roper v. Simmons, the Court relied on international law as evidence of an international consensus against the death penalty for juvenile offenders in holding that the Eighth Amendment prohibited the death penalty for a 17-year old who plotted and executed a plan to murder an innocent woman by breaking in to her home, binding her, wrapping her entire face in duct tape, driving her to a bridge, and throwing her into the Meramec river in Eastern Missouri. Justice Scalia wrote in dissent, joined by Justice Thomas and Chief Justice Rehnquist, that "Though the views of our own citizens are essentially irrelevant to the Court's decision today, the views of other countries and the so-called international community take center stage."

In Lawrence v. Texas, the 2003 decision striking down a Texas statute prohibiting same-sex sodomy, Justice Kennedy, writing for a majority, cites for support a decision by the European Court of Human Rights allowing homosexual conduct as evidence of a lack of world consensus on the illegality of such conduct. Whatever one‘s views on that issue, it should be evident that the relevant consensus behind American law is not a world consensus, but rather the consensus of those in the United States on the meaning of the words used in the Constitution and state laws when originally enacted.

As Justice Scalia stated in his dissent in Lawrence, "The Court's discussion of these foreign views (ignoring, of course, the many countries that have retained criminal prohibitions on sodomy) is ... meaningless dicta. Dangerous dicta, however, since this Court ... should not impose foreign moods, fads, or fashions on Americans."

In 2002, in Atkins v. Virginia, Justice Stevens, in the majority opinion, struck down laws allowing the mentally retarded to be sentenced to death, on the grounds that "[t]he practice ... has become truly unusual, and it is fair to say that a national consensus has developed against it."

Strikingly, the footnote following that sentence, presumably to support the proposition of a "national consensus," cites to the views expressed in the brief filed in the case by the European Union. This appears to have been an attempt to hide the fact that no such "national consensus" existed at the time, as the laws of 20 of the 38 states allowing capital punishment allowed such executions at the time.

In Grutter v. Bollinger, which upheld the use of racial preferences in university admissions, Justice Ginsburg, in a concurrence joined by Justice Breyer, began by noting with approval that the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination allows the theoretically temporary "maintenance of unequal or separate rights for different racial groups." She then she cited analogous provisions of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, which, Justice Ginsburg noted in a speech a few weeks later, "sadly, the United States has not ratified."

The opening sentence of the Fifth Amendment is a guarantee that "No person shall be held to answer for a capital ... crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury ..." Further, the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Fifth Amendment is a prohibition against being "twice put in jeopardy of life" for the same offense, and the Due Process Clause requires "due process of law" before an accused can be "deprived of life ..."

Several years earlier, in Thompson v. Oklahoma, Justice Stevens in a plurality opinion stated that "The conclusion that it would offend civilized standards of decency to execute a person who was less than 16 years old at the time of his or her offense is consistent with the views that have been expressed by ... the leading members of the Western European community." He then cited the laws of West Germany, France, the Soviet Unions, Canada, the Scandinavian countries, and Switzerland, among others, many of which prohibit capital punishment entirely, despite the fact that the U.S. Constitution explicitly provides for capital punishment in multiple constitutional provisions.

And in a concurring opinion in Nixon v. Shrink Missouri Government PAC, Justice Breyer cited opinions by the European Commission of Human Rights and a Canadian court for the proposition that campaign finance laws should be judged according to various balancing tests.

The citation of foreign decisions in majority Supreme Court opinions follows their earlier citation largely in dissenting opinions. Justice Breyer, joined by Justice Stevens in his dissent in Printz v. United States, drew on the experience of the federal systems in Germany and the European Union in his analysis of the appropriate relationship between the individual American states and the federal government. As Justice Scalia appropriately wrote for the Court in the majority decision in that case – a decision that was joined by Justices O‘Connor and Kennedy whose positions appear to have since changed – "Justice Breyer's dissent would have us consider the benefits that other countries, and the European Union, believe they have derived from federal systems that are different from ours. We think such comparative analysis inappropriate to the task of interpreting a constitution ..."

Even earlier, Justice Brennan, dissenting in Stanford v. Kentucky, stated that the "rejection [of capital punishment] generally throughout the world, provide to my mind a strong grounding for the view that it is not constitutionally tolerable that certain States persist in authorizing the execution of adolescent offenders ..." To this the majority of the court replied, "We emphasize that it is American conceptions of decency that are dispositive."

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  • Annette Jackson commented on 4/18/2011
    Typical distraction from real issues facing this country, similiar to the so-called family values bills Congressman Forbes introduces on a regular basis. Smoke and mirrors, folks, smoke and mirrors. Next thing we know, he'll be telling us that Shiria law is coming to the 4th district.
  • James Sauerbier commented on 4/22/2011
    As you have stated the Constitution is our guide book. When we deviate or take liberal interpretation of its content, WE ALWAYS GET IN TROUBLE. Simplicity...the founding Fathers were basic in thought and experienced in the effects of the "Europian way"...They feared gradual reduction of freedom...We and our predicessors have permitted the slow creep of Fed. GOV POWER and we may never get our freedom back. Should this happen there would be anger at a level never seen in this country before. We have no time to be gentle...I am sorry if some feelings are hurt. Actually, I am not sorry because the results will distroy my way of life, my good and healthy future.
  • Linda Maxey commented on 4/22/2011
    Yes ! Keep on Randy, We love what you're doing. Truly you hear the heartbeat of Americans. Defend our Constitution, fight for home drilling & God save us all. L.M
  • Marilyn Koziol commented on 4/22/2011
    We MUST have another law on our books that protects U.S. citizens from being ruled by foreign law. Since common sense has fled this country, especially in the Court system, and warp-minded professors are teaching foreign law as better than U.S. Constitutional laws, we're in for a very unhealthy and scary time in the United States. With Muslims trying to force their religious laws on us also, it is high time to stop these judges from making laws from the bench as they go along, instead of adhering to the wishes of the forefathers who painstakingly put together our U.S. Constitution to avoid exactly what these judges are doing!
  • clifford stone commented on 4/23/2011
    congrats on the legislation to follow only the constitution on ouw laws. can it pass? also if we believe in the constitution, lets us see a birth certificate of Obama.. or a REASON we can't see it or any record of his rise as a student, his money trail??? Common sense reasoning can stop all this uncertainty about his place of birth??? not willing to show it as required, simply makes one assume he is not a natural birth citizen of our country. Virginia resident and CITIZEN.
  • William Chase commented on 4/23/2011
    Thank you, Thank you, thank you. For getting on the band wagon. The Constitution is the supreme law and no other should be considered. Jeffrey Blaha is flat out wrong. The legislative branch MAKES the law. The judicial must use the law given them. Period. Islam seeks to rule the world with their use of Shari law. Buddy, If you open the door them we are done. This nation was founded on Judaic-Christian principles. John Adams said that our Constitution was not fit for non- Christian people. Let's keep it that way.
  • Carol Hermsen commented on 4/24/2011
    my name is carol I havw meet you in Chesterfield at your new office. I strongly support your bill. The judges should only go by the Constitutin
  • Charles Roland commented on 12/16/2011
    It would be stupid to not learn from other legislative successes and failures. Let other countries experiment with legislative innovations. If the results are good let's implement those. The benefit there is we're not wasting time and resources doing experiments (that can fail) ourselves. It doesn't matter who figures out good policy. It matters that we're using the best policies. If the supreme court has a case that has been legislated on in other countries, we really should look at how those laws effected the citizens and use that data to inform our own decisions.
  • David Lockwood commented on 12/16/2011
    You should be worrying more about Congress and less about the Judicial branch. I see nothing wrong with referencing foreign law, as long as judgements are made within the confines of US law and the Constitution. Get over trying to control things that you were not elected to do, and spend more time doing the things you were elected to do. So far, I haven't seen much. Get to work.
  • Daniel Porzio commented on 12/16/2011
    Not only should international law not be applied to the US, or citizens of the US, I for one will not recognize such laws. I will not allow the usurpation of the US Constitution. Any other response should be considered treason. Thanks
  • Frank March commented on 12/16/2011
    Foreign law may be a good source of persuasive authority on many issues, particularly issues that arose under common law. Foreign law should only be viewed as persuasive law and not accepted as binding precedent. There may be a situation where a court is interpreting legislation that is similar to legislation in another country or jurisdiction and they may agree with how the foreign court explained the issue. If the U.S. court used the reasoning from a foreign court, then it is proper to cite to that foreign court decision as the source of the idea. The problem here is liberal judges going too far. I am not sure this legislation can stop that. The solution is better judges.
  • Frank March commented on 12/16/2011
    Foreign law may be a good source of persuasive authority on many issues, particularly issues that arose under common law. Foreign law should only be viewed as persuasive law and not accepted as binding precedent. There may be a situation where a court is interpreting legislation that is similar to legislation in another country or jurisdiction and they may agree with how the foreign court explained the issue. If the U.S. court used the reasoning from a foreign court, then it is proper to cite to that foreign court decision as the source of the idea. The problem here is liberal judges going too far. I am not sure this legislation can stop that. The solution is better judges.
  • Gerald Williams commented on 12/16/2011
    Mr. Forbes as usual you are wasting time on issues that are not relevant to the concerns of your constituents. This bill will have no impact, period, on whether judges, or justices will or will not refer to case law in another country when making a decision. Get to work. I for one am tired of hearing about congressional stalemates on tax bills, jobs bills, economic stimulus, etc. Stop writing feel good legislation from your ivory tower. You consistently take the lazy way out by voting along party lines instead of thinking for yourself.
  • David Timm commented on 12/16/2011
    What an idiotic question! Of course we need to consider and honor foreign laws and the world's changing mores. Slavishly follow? Adopt blindly? NO! on both counts. Our entire society and legal system is based upon English Common Law. The Magna Carta is celebrated by English speaking countries worldwide. This question is a clear and obvious attempt to pander to the poor Fourth District ignoramuses (a minority) whom devious demagogues have deluded into believing that Islamic Terrorists are plotting to toss out our current legal system and replace it with Sharia Law. How stupid and gullible do these politicians and propagandists believe we are?
  • Allen Shepard commented on 12/16/2011
    (sigh) I'm glad you bring even this waste of time to our attention helping us be heard. Foreign laws should not be used nor considered. 1) How do we add foreign lawyers to court in order to provide free counsel. (Gideon 1963) 2) Which laws? All? Some countries have conflicting laws. 3) I live in the US because of our laws - not England, Germany nor Syria's laws. 4) Each states has their laws without bending or enforcing the laws of other states - why should our country be any different? Sir, Honorable Congressman Forbes, please help enforce current laws Deport illegal or undocumented folks. Our right to purchase, own and bear arms. EPA for our clean water Thank you and Merry Christmas to you and your staff. Happy Holidays where it applies best. Kind Regards.
  • Brian Kopper commented on 12/16/2011
    NO!! This is a America. Those who come from other country's to live, work, and raise their families do so because of the freedoms we enjoy. That also being "our" laws. Period!!! Our laws begin with the greatest "document" ever written for all man kind.......................... "The Constitution of the United States of America" It is very very foolish of our courts to even give thought to this subject. If one doesn't like our system then they need only return to their own country. Period!!
  • Rodney Lee Luke commented on 12/16/2011
    the constitution was ordained and established by we the people to govern we the people. all laws out side of the supreme law of this land are governed by art#1 of the constitution. We are a sovereign nation, a Republic, of, by and for the people. No where does it allow for foreign governments or their laws, or their courts, to affect this nation in our governing authority. we the people are the supreme governing authority in the United States and we share it with no out side sources. Rod Luke.
  • Richard Corcoran commented on 12/16/2011
    Of course foreign laws and judicial decisions should be used to interpret our laws. Laws reflect evolving social norms of society. They should not replace the Constitution as guidance, but foreign laws are a guideline for the standards of society. Foreign laws guide our laws, just as our laws guide theirs. And while we have less control over foreign laws, we are represented. Treaties with foreign countries are valid US laws. And they are not valid until our elected representatives (the President, our Senators) or those they appoint and approve (Ambassadors, the UN, etc) are sent there to represent our interests. International agreements between countries illustrate the feelings of the different societies. I think the idea behind this bill and Rep. Adam's article is misguided.
  • Kevin Cosgrove commented on 12/16/2011
    The answer to this question, like most legal questions, is "it depends." There are certain bodies of law, such as maritime law, where it is acceptable to consider foreign law in the absense of binding U. S. precedent. That doesn't mean foreign law controls the analysis. Rather, foreign law can provide a guidepost when U. S. law is either non-existent or unclear. If U. S. law is clear on an issue, however, then obviously U. S. law should control the analysis.
  • Ruben Esguerra commented on 12/16/2011
    Foreign laws may be used but only in relation to the interpretation and application of treaties and other binding agreements with other countries and recognized non-governmental organizations. International Law is, after all, a part of our nation's jurisprudence. In all cases the interests of the nation, the states, the commonwealths, and other territories and possessions, and specially the interests of the American people should be the first and foremost to be upheld and protected by our legislature and judiciary.
  • Jeff Lewis commented on 12/16/2011
    Admittedly, people should seriously note that in the U.S. the courts rarely do actually cite foreign law. But with that, when the courts actually do it is usually not controversial, and more often than not it is in high profile cases. As such, the real troubling issue here is really the slap in the face by the nation's highest court when it refers to international law to actually interpret the Eighth Amendment. But using foreign law to interpret domestic law, and especially the Constitution, is more than problematic. It is my understanding that the American Laws for American Courts Act is crafted to protect American citizens’ constitutional rights against the infiltration and injection of foreign laws. Accordingly, the United States of America was essentially forged to release itself from the clutches of foreign law, and stands today as free and no longer grasp of a foreign power, or foreign laws. The Declaration of Independence was crafted to separate the United States to be autonomous and independent from any foregn law and/or power. With this, eleven years after the crafting of the Declaration of Independence, many of the same men gathered again build upon the foundation of the Declaration and put forth the application of how the United States of America, a Republic, was to going to be governed. The United States Constitution is the law of this land. Not English law, not European Union doctrine, and certainly not Islamic Shariah law. As Justice Thomas effectively stated, “foreign laws and sentencing practices [are] irrelevant to the meaning of our Constitution.” (Graham v. Florida, No. 08-7412) Civil and Criminal Law serve as the core of America, and the protector of the values that are trusted and held very dear. The United States is a nation of laws, and a nation of values. But with that, the laws and the values are being eroded away daily by interpretative error and indifference. The judges are given a high responsibility, and should do so with a transparent accountability. Judges derive their powers from the Constitution... not foreign and/or international law.
  • Harold Seelig commented on 12/16/2011
    NO! A grand part of the exceptionalism of America is the escape of many of our welcomed legal immigrants (not illegal visitors) from Lands of Law they disagreed with. We're not to succumb to some dream of global government. Every attempt at a one-world-government has resulted in deprivation and death of 10's of millions. The UN, for instance, wants trillions for carbon dioxide. The US is a net CO2 sink. If the UN did not connect dollars with CO2, there'd be no interest at all in CO2. The science might even be allowed to become un-biased. So no, using foreign law in our courts (although it would generate more jobs for lawyers), would be a 'socialogical disorder'.
  • Roy Scherer commented on 12/16/2011
    Seems pretty obvious to me that the responsibility of our courts is to rule on United States laws, in light of the United States Constitution (and any relevant treaties, which along with the Constitution are "the highest law" of our land. That being said, I see no problem with looking at the laws of other nations, and UN material, in those cases where applying our own laws and Constitution do not produce a clear answer. In other words, YES, we should look at the laws of other nations (and even Sharia law), but ONLY in those cases where our own laws and Constitution do not grant a clear answer.
  • Thomas Paine commented on 12/17/2011
    Not only is it wrong to use international law but any justcie that does should be impeached as acting against the US (treason)
  • Clark Hunt commented on 12/17/2011
    Obviously this poll is meant to stoke the fears of your constituents that we will soon be living under Sharia law or the laws of some other country, which is absurd. This week we learned that 50% of our population lives at or near the poverty level. Why don't you work on real problems.
  • Harold Seelig commented on 12/17/2011
    NO! A grand part of the exceptionalism of America is the escape of many of our welcomed legal immigrants (not illegal visitors) from Lands of Law they disagreed with to come here to the US. We're not to succumb to some dream of global government. Every attempt at a one-world-government has resulted in deprivation and death of 10's of millions. The UN, for instance, wants trillions for carbon dioxide. The US is a net CO2 sink. If the UN did not connect dollars with CO2, there'd be no interest at all in CO2. The science might even be allowed to become un-biased. So no, using foreign law in our courts (although it would generate more jobs for lawyers), would be a 'sociological disorder'.
  • James Woodard commented on 12/19/2011
    Not only should any Judge not use any foreign Law, but any and all Judges should immediately be removed from the Bench. Using Foreign Law will undermine our constitution and our constitutional rights in the long run. It will also open the doors to soften or break down our sovereignty as a nation. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is misguided at best. We do NOT need any outside law other than our own. No other nation has been blessed as ours in all of history. Our Founding Fathers looked to the Lord who made Heaven and earth in order to use all of their knowledge and resources correctly. They knew that man left to his own devices unchecked will lead to Corruption in leadership. There is no other nation that has better human rights or laws than ours. REP. ADAMS ARTICLE IS NOT MISGUIDED IT IS ON TARGET .
  • John Peebles commented on 12/20/2011
    Make up your mind, international law or foreign law. There is a difference.
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