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Trainer Hayes; Warnes; Allen; Sec'y Calver; Spenceley; Parks; Erskine; Murray Trainer (LOC)
Bain News Service,, publisher.
Trainer Hayes; Warnes; Allen; Sec'y Calver; Spenceley; Parks; Erskine; Murray Trainer
[between ca. 1910 and ca. 1915]
1 negative : glass ; 5 x 7 in. or smaller.
Notes:
Title from data provided by the Bain News Service on the negative.
Photo shows British boxers including Rueben Charles "Rube"
Warnes (1875-1961), W.W. Allen, R. Erskine, A. Spenceley, F. Parks
with E.T. Calver, secretary of the Amateur Boxing Association.
(Source: Flickr Commons project, 2010 and New York Times, May 14,
1911)
Forms part of: George Grantham Bain Collection (Library of Congress).
Subjects:
Boxing
Format: Glass negatives.
Rights Info: No known restrictions on publication.
Repository: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, Washington, D.C. 20540 USA, hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print
General information about the Bain Collection is available at hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.ggbain
Persistent URL: hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.09224
Call Number: LC-B2- 2200-16A
Comments and faves
wojciech.felendzer, dejahthoris, sixfoot6, mpirrocco, and 16 other people added this photo to their favorites.
whyaduck (60 months ago | reply)
Get a PDF of a brief New York Times article (missing its first paragraph) published May 14, 1911, which tells about these British amateur boxers who were visiting the U.S. at the time: (URL ) (Registration on the Times website might be needed to see the page- I'm not sure.) There are other Times articles about the boxers as well: Googling on "boxer Erskine" got me the article I mentioned and two others in the News Archive links at the bottom of the results page.
"A. Spenceley" might have been either of two A.Spenceleys active in the 1910s to 1920s: Arthur or Alf. I'm guessing they might have been brothers or cousins. Here's a page mentioning Arthur Spenceley. Looks as though he went professional, but without success. I can't find an info page for Alf, but an ebay user has or had a postcard photo of him on sale: Here's a Google cache in case the original page is gone.
It looks as though most of these boxers are mentioned on this page of the Amateur Boxing Association of England website. Rube Warnes was middleweight champion in 1910, W.W. Allen was bantamweight champion and A. Spenceley lightweight champion in 1911. R. Erskine lost the featherweight championship title to H. Bowers that same year. Allen appears in every year listed on the page. I haven't yet examined the site beyond the page to which I linked.
Parks doesn't appear at all. I guess his giant hands did him no good.
Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (25 months ago | reply)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Boxing_Associat ion_of_England
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Mostyn_Parks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Charles_Warnes
Here they are in a photo published in the New York Times on May 14, 1911:
Shadrach Christopoulos (22 months ago | reply)
W.W.Allen was a British bantamweight boxer and bantamweight champion of the Amateur Boxing Association of England in 1911, 1912, 1914 and 1919.