Some Conservatives Question Gun Dogma In Wake Of Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

“This is not the gun's fault, but guns *do* make this sort of atrocity much, much easier to commit.” posted

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A man grieves next to police staged at the site of a shooting near Sandy Hook Elementary School were a gunman opened fire on school children and staff in Newtown, Connecticut, on Dec. 14, 2012.

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"Don't politicize the shooting" has been a common refrain after the mass shootings of 2012, especially among Second Amendment–defending conservatives. But in the wake of Friday's shooting at an elementary school in Connecticut, a few conservatives are bucking the usual routine and indicating an openness to question decades of maxims about access to guns.

"This is not the gun's fault, but guns *do* make this sort of atrocity much, much easier to commit," Townhall editor Guy Benson said on Twitter. "That's indisputable."

Benson maintained that he isn't a "gun-grabber," but "there is a sickness in society. Guns can both exacerbate& mitigate the consequences of that sickness."

Conservative author David Frum was panned on Michelle Malkin's Twitchy site for sending a sarcastic tweet this morning: "Obviously, we need to lower the age limit for concealed carry so toddlers can defend themselves."

Frum followed up with a column arguing that "Every Day is the Day to Talk About Gun Control."

"Almost uniquely in the world, the United States suffers massacre after massacre after massacre: in schools, in workplaces, in movie theaters, on city streets," Frum wrote. "And after each such massacre, there follows a great hushing: don't you dare mention the most obvious reason for this unique American horror":

And I'll say: I'll accept no lectures about "sensitivity" on days of tragedy like today from people who work the other 364 days of the year against any attempt to prevent such tragedies.

It's bad enough to have a gun lobby. It's the last straw when that lobby also sets up itself as the civility police. It may not be politically possible to do anything about the prevalence of weapons of mass murder. But it damn well ought to be possible to complain about them — and about the people who condone them.

A more measured Philip Klein wrote that "Tho misguided, dont think debating gun control is politicizing. Politicizing is blaming political opponents for a tragedy."

There are only a few, and other conservatives have stuck to the regular script, accusing President Obama of politicizing the shooting by giving a speech in which he called for "meaningful action" on Friday. Republican politicians, though they offer prayers and thoughts to the victims' families, have been short on calls for change. The powerful National Rifle Association has been silent on the issue all day, canceling a Twitter chat featuring country singer Colt Ford and even deleting tweets relating to the chat. A spokesman for the NRA did not respond to a request for comment.

Benson and others stand out for daring to question, however cautiously, the absolutes in which people talk about guns. But Republican strategist Ana Navarro doubted that the seeds of change were truly being sown: "We go through the same futile exercise every time people are killed in a senseless shooting incident," Navarro told BuzzFeed. "At the end not a damn thing changes."

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    • Wombatish
      a few minutes ago

      Take a look at the US's bedfellows on the country chart (and yes, the data is population based, if not per capita).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate OH THE NATIONS WITH GUN BANS (be it legal bans or just popular opinion) HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MURDER. Nope. They really don't. Straight lies shouldn't be part of the discourse on such a touchy and literally life-threatening subject.

    • alisonw4
      5 hours ago

      @Noondozer - the middle east has no gun control either AND it's a war zone where children as young as seven are given and taught how to use AK47's. To use that comparison is the sign of a person without a rational or factual argument to fall back on.

    • introvert
      6 hours ago

      If everyone treated each other properly to begin with, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Start with love, presence, understanding, contribution, and freedom.

    • Noondozer
      6 hours ago

      Everyone blames guns. Look at the middle east, would we rather have seen him blow up the school? The kid killed him mom and 20 kindergarteners, why do you think not owning a gun would have stopped him from doing otherwise.

      • ringdinger
        4 hours ago

        Creating a bomb and blowing up a school would've been much harder and taken a lot more time and effort than just easily picking up a loaded gun and going around shooting up the place. In the middle east, they use “jihad” or whatever as an excuse and devote their lives to doing that stuff. This was just an angsty guy with mental problems. Having stricter gun laws might not have stopped him from doing this, but it sure as hell would've made it a lot tougher to kill as many people as he did.

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    • MK03
      7 hours ago

      So this is what it took, conservatives? 20 dead kindergarteners?

      • brianf32
        5 hours ago

        No. Even after 20 dead kindergarteners they still don't get it.

      • Daniel R.
        2 hours ago

        Money is better spent on mental health than gun control. Making this about gun control is saying that you're ok with sick deranged people wandering the streets without help as long as your pet political issue is won. Treat your society's homicidal causes. Gun control is not an answer to anything. At the same time as this was going on, a guy in China stabbed 22 kids at a school…more kids and he only had a knife. Saying that the problem is getting worse or that it only happens in America is just showing a lack of knowledge of statistics or world events.

      • devonm3
        2 hours ago

        Why can't we reevaluate both our current gun laws and our mental health care? Clearly, we're failing at least one, if not both of these things, and instead of getting touchy about it when someone suggests that part of our current system is flawed, we should actually discuss it and try to find a solution.

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