• She holds an (auction?) catalog which is labeled "Newport, R. I." and bears the dates "August 8 and 11, 1913(?)" - Wystan

Mrs. Chas. L. Oelrichs & Daughter Margaret (LOC)

Bain News Service,, publisher.

Mrs. Chas. L. Oelrichs & Daughter Margaret

[between ca. 1910 and ca. 1915]

1 negative : glass ; 5 x 7 in. or smaller.

Notes:
 Title from data provided by the Bain News Service on the negatives.
Photo possibly shows Mrs. Charles de Loosey Oelrichs (Marjorie R. Trumbull) with daughter Marjorie. (Source: Flickr Commons project, 2009)
Forms part of: George Grantham Bain Collection (Library of Congress).

Format: Glass negatives.

Rights Info: No known restrictions on publication.

Repository: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, Washington, D.C. 20540 USA, hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print

General information about the Bain Collection is available at hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.ggbain

Persistent URL: hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.13825

Call Number: LC-B2- 2786-13

Comments and faves

  1. swanq (39 months ago | reply)

    Possibly Mrs. Charles de Loosey Oelrichs.

    In 1921, according to NYT of June 30, 1921,
    query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9F05E 4DD1731EF33A...
    she got a divorce from Charles and custody of a 12-yr-old daughter, Marjorie. That could be the girl in the picture presumably taken some 7 years earlier.

    If so, the woman is the former Marjorie R. Turnbull.

    The wedding of daughter Marjorie to pianist and bandleader Eddy Duchin was reported in the NYT of June 6, 1935
    select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20D 10F63C5B177A... [requires subscription]
    She was described as the ONLY daughter of Mrs. Marjorie Oelrichs and Charles de Loosey Oelrichs.

    Sadly, she died two years later of complications following childbirth. See select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30E 1FFC35541B72... [again requires subscription]

  2. Wystan (39 months ago | reply)

    Wikipedia, in its bio of Peter Duchin, describes Marjorie (in her adulthood) as a socialite of Newport, Rhode Island, and NYC. Note that in this photo her mother is holding a catalog with the words "Newport, R. I." writ large on the cover.

    Marjorie's son, the society bandleader and musician Peter Duchin (Peter Oelrichs Duchin) was born on July 28, 1937. Marjorie died five days later. Peter was reared by wealthy family friends, Averell Harriman and his wife, Marie Whitney Harriman. (Harriman later was a governor of New York, but other Bain/LOC photos, contemporaneous with this one, show him as coach of the Yale rowing crew.)

  3. im.mick (39 months ago | reply)

    Hello... used this pic for a silly edit.. thanks :D

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    carola's and Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) added this photo to their favorites.

  5. Anne (LOC P&P) (39 months ago | reply)

    Swanq: Thanks for the full and correct names for these persons. We'll include these in a note next time we update.

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  7. Wystan (37 months ago | reply)

    But here is another Bain/LOC photo, of a different woman (with a different girl), who also is identified as Mrs. Oelrichs. Moreover, this photo, like the other, appears to have been taken in the resort city of Newport, RI:


    [Note: Bain's identification is in error. This is not Mrs. Oelrichs, but Mrs. Amos Pinchot and daughter.]

    I believe that Peter Duchin is still alive. He would be 72. Perhaps somebody from the Library of Congress could request his assistance in straightening out the discrepancies before it is too late.

    Incidentally, the building behind the woman and girl in the photo above also appears in this Bain/LOC photo of Mrs. Amos Pinchot (with her daughter and husband, Amos Pinchot), posted more recently:


    (Mrs. Pinchot is the woman mistakenly identified as Mrs. Oelrichs in another Bain/LOC photo from Newport, RI.)

  8. pennylrichardsca (37 months ago | reply)

    Oh, you're right, Wystan--now that I see this one, it's obvious that at least ONE of these photos isn't Mrs. Charles deLoosey Oelrichs. They're just clearly not the same woman. The girl in this photo is more plausibly Marjorie Oelrichs, who was born after 1907 (so she'd be six years old, max, in 1913).

  9. Anne (LOC P&P) (37 months ago | reply)

    Wystan and pennylrichardsca: Thanks for noticing the discrepancies in the ids. We'll look into what the correct information is for these.

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    DarkVictory19, tinylights, okwiccan, xinem, and 7 other people added this photo to their favorites.

  11. DOMINIC403 (3 months ago | reply)

    does anybody know what the specifics of the "complications" were of Marjorie Oelrichs death??

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    pennylrichardsca added this photo to their favorites. (3 months ago)

  13. Wystan (3 months ago | reply)

    Lately I've been reading the breezy published autobiography of Peter Duchin, "Ghost of a Chance" (1996). Since he never knew his mother (and his father more or less rejected him) Peter had to become acquainted with her through research in newspapers and interviews with old family friends.

  14. Wystan (3 weeks ago | reply)

    Mrs. Oelrich's Newport mansion (a Bain/LOC photo posted on Flickr on Nov. 2, 2012:

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