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    I'm an 2nd year cadet at my university and I just came back from Basic and ait in september. I'm trying to get contracted as an SMP cadet. I currently have a 250 PT score and a 3.4 gpa.

    Now here's the issue. About a week ago I had a very, very rough break up with my ex girlfriend. She has had prior issues with depression and anxiety which have resurfaced after starting college this year. She just filed a police report against me for texting and calling her because she would not return my stuff. No charges were filed it was just a report.

    How big of an issue is this regarding contracting? I'm shooting to stay in the guard as an officer. my record was completely clean before this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    I'm an 2nd year cadet at my university and I just came back from Basic and ait in september. I'm trying to get contracted as an SMP cadet. I currently have a 250 PT score and a 3.4 gpa.

    Now here's the issue. About a week ago I had a very, very rough break up with my ex girlfriend. She has had prior issues with depression and anxiety which have resurfaced after starting college this year. She just filed a police report against me for texting and calling her because she would not return my stuff. No charges were filed it was just a report.

    How big of an issue is this regarding contracting? I'm shooting to stay in the guard as an officer. my record was completely clean before this.
    I'm waiting for Paralegal to chime in.

    My best advice for you is to stay away from her and not attempt to contact her by yourself. It'll be less of a headache for you later on. If you must have contact with her in order to secure your property, perhaps an attorney would be a good idea.

    The best thing you can do for your career is simply stay out of trouble. Some things are just not worth jeopardizing your future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    I'm an 2nd year cadet at my university and I just came back from Basic and ait in september. I'm trying to get contracted as an SMP cadet. I currently have a 250 PT score and a 3.4 gpa.

    Now here's the issue. About a week ago I had a very, very rough break up with my ex girlfriend. She has had prior issues with depression and anxiety which have resurfaced after starting college this year. She just filed a police report against me for texting and calling her because she would not return my stuff. No charges were filed it was just a report.

    How big of an issue is this regarding contracting? I'm shooting to stay in the guard as an officer. my record was completely clean before this.
    Lawyer up and don't contact her until you've spoken to an attorney.

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    Avoid her at all costs, the last thing you need is for her to file some BS restraining order. Or even a legitimate restraining order.......... Stay far away from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    I'm an 2nd year cadet at my university and I just came back from Basic and ait in september. I'm trying to get contracted as an SMP cadet. I currently have a 250 PT score and a 3.4 gpa.

    Now here's the issue. About a week ago I had a very, very rough break up with my ex girlfriend. She has had prior issues with depression and anxiety which have resurfaced after starting college this year. She just filed a police report against me for texting and calling her because she would not return my stuff. No charges were filed it was just a report.

    How big of an issue is this regarding contracting? I'm shooting to stay in the guard as an officer. my record was completely clean before this.
    1. Cut off all contact right now. What she will do next is not the worth the hassel.

    2. If you really can't let your stuff go, get police assitance. See if they will escort you there to avoid further contact.

    3. Did I say to cut off contact yet?

    4. If she does file a restraining order, you will have a firearms ban. This is a civil ban AND IS NOT CRIMINAL. You will not be able to own, use or posses a personal firearm while the order is active. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION for carrying weapons "while in the service of the united states". If she gets a restraining order, (which the police probably told her to do) it WILL NOT prevent military service. (It can for a clearance though, see number 8).

    5. If you get convicted of violating said restraining order, you now will have a domestic violence CRIMINAL CONVICTION whether you were technically "violent" or not. Now you have a lautenberg amendmant issue and cannot carry a firearm, at all, no exceptions. Your military career will be over before it starts.

    6. If she files an order...GET AN ATTORNEY. I don't care how much it costs. You can fight a temporary restraining order fairly easy with good counsel. If you try to do it yourself and it turns into a permanent order, you will have a much bigger hurdle there.

    7. Did I say cut off contact yet?

    8. Be advised, that although a civil order will not prevent service, and isn't criminal, there is a question on the security clearance interview that asks "do you currently have an order of protection placed against you?". Answering yes will not automatically deny you a security clearance. It could possibly though. All officers have to have a clearance.

    9. Just so were clear, there doesn't need to be charges filed for her to get a protection order. It is a lower burden of proof, and the judge just needs a "poponderence of evidence" which is almost always her story alone.

    10. Whatever it was, let it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParalegalNCO1 View Post
    1. Cut off all contact right now. What she will do next is not the worth the hassel.

    2. If you really can't let your stuff go, get police assitance. See if they will escort you there to avoid further contact.

    3. Did I say to cut off contact yet?

    4. If she does file a restraining order, you will have a firearms ban. This is a civil ban AND IS NOT CRIMINAL. You will not be able to own, use or posses a personal firearm while the order is active. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION for carrying weapons "while in the service of the united states". If she gets a restraining order, (which the police probably told her to do) it WILL NOT prevent military service. (It can for a clearance though, see number 8).

    5. If you get convicted of violating said restraining order, you now will have a domestic violence CRIMINAL CONVICTION whether you were technically "violent" or not. Now you have a lautenberg amendmant issue and cannot carry a firearm, at all, no exceptions. Your military career will be over before it starts.

    6. If she files an order...GET AN ATTORNEY. I don't care how much it costs. You can fight a temporary restraining order fairly easy with good counsel. If you try to do it yourself and it turns into a permanent order, you will have a much bigger hurdle there.

    7. Did I say cut off contact yet?

    8. Be advised, that although a civil order will not prevent service, and isn't criminal, there is a question on the security clearance interview that asks "do you currently have an order of protection placed against you?". Answering yes will not automatically deny you a security clearance. It could possibly though. All officers have to have a clearance.

    9. Just so were clear, there doesn't need to be charges filed for her to get a protection order. It is a lower burden of proof, and the judge just needs a "poponderence of evidence" which is almost always her story alone.

    10. Whatever it was, let it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by collk22 View Post
    "Boom" *drops mic, exits stage left*

    update:


    Well I got a call from the campus PD on the day I posted this thread requesting that I come to the station to pick up my stuff. They told me that this wasn't a big issue, but she didn't want me contacting her anymore and that she filed a report about it, nothing else. I got the impression that these situations aren't all that uncommon

    I sat down with the officer like an adult, shook hands, and spilled the beans on what has been going on the past few weeks with her. I mentioned that she had prior issues in high school, a few years prior to us dating, and how they had been resurfacing in college along with certain "crazy thoughts" my ex had discussed with me. I also told the officer that in the last two weeks of our relationship I helped her formally apply for counseling here at the university. I'm certainly not an angel in this situation, but i'm still shocked she did this after two years of being together. And this all happened within a few days time too.

    Since nothing has happened do I still need to notify my ROTC and my guard unit of the situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    Since nothing has happened do I still need to notify my ROTC and my guard unit of the situation?
    While that's not a formal requirement by law or regulation, I recommend that you do so.

    If you break the bad news first, then you're more in control of the situation. If nothing happens, then you still look mature, forthright, and honorable by voluntarily disclosing an awkward situation. If it does escalate somehow, your commander won't freak out and presume the worst, because you've already briefed him on the topic. You don't appear to be hiding anything, and thus he's willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Act like a man of honor, and not a lawyer.

    Bad news gets worse with age, so get out in front of the story. As difficult as it is, it's potentially far, far worse to wait.

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