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An F-4 Phantom II practices Oct. 23, 2009, for the Southwest Open House at Holloman Air Force Base, N.M. The F-4 is assigned to the 82nd Aerial Targeting Squadron. (U.S. Air Force photo/Tech. Sgt. Chris Flahive)
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F-4 continues long-time service to Air Force with new mission

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by Senior Airman Kirsten Wicker
325th Fighter Wing Public Affairs


1/11/2011 - TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. (AFNS) -- The 82nd Aerial Target Squadron officials here are replacing the use of Lear jets for their banner tow missions with the F-4 Phantom, creating an air-to-air target that aircrews in training can safely evaluate, develop and test their weapons systems.

"We developed the idea to use the F-4 for the banner tow missions to ensure our combat fighter aircrews could continue training and developing their aerial gunnery skills," said Lt. Col. Ryan Luchsinger, the 82nd ATRS commander. "Due to costs, the Navy contract for use of the Lear jets was being cut, and we had no other way to accomplish this training. The F-4 was the perfect platform to tow the banner and ensure we kept their aerial gunnery proficiency."

The F-4 models in use by the 82nd ATRS range in age from 36 to 42 years old and are flown and maintained here. New procedures for attaching the banner to the jet had to be developed to ensure safety and effectiveness.

"We did our research and came up with new procedures for attaching the banner," said Maj. William Hope, the 53rd Test Support Squadron Assistant Director of Operations and the F-4 banner tow project manager. "We adapted them from an old Navy banner tow system of another F-4 model and made some minor changes to the equipment to make it safer as well."

"Using the F-4 provides us with the capability to take advantage of training opportunities that otherwise would not have been available to us," he said.

The 60 foot-long banner is attached to the F-4 by specially trained maintainers.

"We attach the banner with a 120-foot chain to 1600 feet of cable so there is 1800 feet of clearance between the jet and the banner," said Tech. Sgt. Phillip Praeger, with the 82nd ATRS maintenance and logistics section. "This leaves plenty of room between the banner and the F-4 in case the target is missed."

Lt. Col. Gregory Blount, the 82nd ATRS director of operations, began flying the F-4's new mission two months ago.

"We have a special training program for pilots on Tyndall and we start with the most experienced because it is a new program," he said. "This is just another way the venerable Phantom continues to serve the Air Force nearly 50 years after it began service."

The plane's new role ensures the Defense Department has full-scale, air-to-air target training, ensuring continued air dominance through highly specialized operational testing and evaluation of weapons systems.

"The 82nd ATRS operates the only F-4 banner tow in the Defense Department," said Colonel Blount. "We work in conjunction with the 83rd Fighter Weapons Squadron and we fall under the 53rd Weapons Evaluations Group, also located on Tyndall."

According to safety officials, all sorties are conducted over water, far from shore. Officials work to ensure there are no stray boaters in the impact area.

Mission complete, the F-4 returns to base and the banner is detached and evaluated for the number of bulls-eye hits it came back with. Pilots have an opportunity to evaluate how well they did, enhancing their training.

In addition to providing training, the F-4 banner tow mission is a cost-saving initiative, saving the Air Force nearly $750,000 a year.

"This is an enormous benefit to our combat fighter aircrews as well as to our cost-saving initiatives, because we are able to accomplish critical aerial gunnery training while flying," Colonel Luchsinger said.

The McDonnell Douglas-built aircraft is a two-seat, twin-engine, all-weather, long-range supersonic jet interceptor and fighter. It was originally developed for the Navy fleet defense in 1958, however it was later adopted by the Marine Corps and the Air Force. It has been in Air Force service since 1961 and was extensively used by both the Navy and the Air Force during the Vietnam War. Today, modified F-4s are in use as QF-4 reusable, full-scale target drones.



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6/7/2011 9:04:37 AM ET
What a pleasure to read this article and the comments from former F-4 maintainers. I had the distinct honor of working the F-4 FSAT program in the beginning as a member of the 475th at Tyndall AFB FL from 1991 till 1994. The 82nd is a great squadron as are the civilian contractors that make this bird fly every day. A lot of hard work went into converting the F4 platform into a Drone, however it was also lots of fun to see the ole girl fly again. She still has the true sound of freedom.
Rick Weldon, Weston WV
 
2/3/2011 2:49:16 PM ET
I spend 12 years out of my Air Force career working as a hydraulic mechanic on the F-4. It will test you. If you were going to be the best at your skill this is the plane that would take you there. Long Hours never enough people and always broke. You either had it or didn't have it. Make you strong.
Big Charley, Robins Field Ga
 
1/17/2011 2:13:23 PM ET
Was a WCS tech in the 80s at Moody Iceland and Spang. Nothing like being woke up to a simulated bombing run. Good job for the F-4 better than being a drone. Skull.
M Calahan, Colorado
 
1/17/2011 1:22:57 PM ET
The F4-E's came there in 1969. The F4s that where used as tow planes some of the targets would not come back because the cable would only have the nose of the target left attached to the cable when the plane would come back from the range.
Roger Brown, USA
 
1/13/2011 8:31:05 PM ET
I flew Navy F-4J's F-4S's and RF-4B's years ago.How I miss the shriek of twin J79s.. How did you actually convince the USAF that Thunderhogs are cost effective? Between fuel and maintenance manhours I challenge anyone to identify a more expensive tow platform. Enjoy it while you can. Only wish I could share the thrill one more time.
David Rutkoff, Hager City Wisconsin
 
1/13/2011 2:38:23 AM ET
@ Lisa. TX: You took the words from my keyboard. We learned the lesson of relying on whiz-bang technology only to realize that there is a need to maintain old dog fighting skills when the new stuff failed to work. ACMDCM is as relevant today as it was in the past.
JW, Ramstein AB Germany
 
1/13/2011 1:27:04 AM ET
I still remember the F4's coming over our barracks at Bergstrom Air Force Base in 1970-72. What a rumble
LZLee, Little Rock AR
 
1/12/2011 9:18:36 PM ET
Got to see an impressive F-4 display at Ellington Field today... I had to pick my jaw up off the ramp... What a fantastic machine...
An AMERICAN AIRMAN, Houston TX
 
1/12/2011 7:48:50 PM ET
This was the aircraft when I was stationed at Seymour Johnson from 1968-1972. We had 4 squadrons, the 333rd, 334th, 335th and the 336th Tac Fighter Squadrons. At the time, the 333rd was stationed in Viet Nam. I watched these fly everyday I was there. I'm glad to see the Air Force still has these around. I remember Chuck Yeager. He was the commander of the squadron. They flew these late at night. He would take off and then head straight up with after burners going full and climb out of sight. I can remember this like it was yesterday. What a sight to see. Being a firefighter, I was able to get up close with these fighters, both on the ground and while on line standby. Nice story and thanks for the memories. Sgt. Dale Miller, USAF 1968-1972
Dale Miller, Columbus Ohio
 
1/12/2011 5:20:11 PM ET
As a Civil Service Aircraft Mechanic and FAN of the F-4, need any help with keeping the Old Girls in the air? Let me know and I will be MORE than GLAD to help keep them in the air for the USAF. By the way anyone contact Brig. General Steve Ritchie with 5 MIG KILLS and see if he would like to get some Stick-Time up against F-22's? Get the pictures, Protect the Force and KILL MIGS...
Thomas M. Lore, Warner Robins AFBALC
 
1/12/2011 4:07:03 PM ET
The F-4 still flys. Worked it in early 80's. The old workhorse still doing it.
am, alaska
 
1/12/2011 2:44:16 PM ET
Jerry from Oklahoma that is the same train of thought they had back in Vietnam hence a lot of the early F-4s did not have a built in gun. To build a fighter aircraft without a gun and relying on missiles is a mistake I'm sure the military doesn't want to make again.
Lisa, Tx
 
1/12/2011 2:28:30 PM ET
What tail numbers are they using If they got the old Fresno jets they got good ones. Tore them down and replaced just about everything ALJACs lines that were all but useless - no signals to the missiles. RR'd all the RADAR wiring harnesses and gold-plated all the boxes. No more invitations to go up against the AF since we won William Tell with our beautiful F-106s.
MSgt Wingfield, Fresno ANG
 
1/12/2011 2:16:12 PM ET
I had the honor of working on the old RF-4Cs at Bergstrom AFB in 1991 before they retired them to the bone yard. What an awesome mission those recce's had Alone unarmed and unafraid was their motto but I always thought it should have been low and freaking loud.
Texas Pete, Texas
 
1/12/2011 1:35:18 PM ET
A good use of the asset but the Air Force needs to ask is it relevant When was the last time there was an air to air battle using guns and what are the chances of it ever happening again. It looks like we are still training for the battles of WWII and Korea. China has developed advanced fighter planes with long range weapons. It would seem air battles in the future will be fought between aircraft outside visible range of each other.
Jerry, Oklahoma
 
1/12/2011 12:06:34 PM ET
Since you asked, there are a few foreign countries still flying the Phantom F4E models and one country has upgraded their radar and put in glass cockpits when they overhauled the airframes The Phantom outside the USA is projected to fly beyond 2020 depending on parts availability. It was never an easy aircraft to work on but when it is needed to fly it flies well and reliable. There is also a F-4D based in Houston with a private company that will fly at air shows on demand.
USAF Retired, USA
 
1/12/2011 11:53:35 AM ET
As a proud ex Double Ugly backseater I only have one question. Where can I sign up for a ride?
Jim Sprance, Wright-Patt AFB
 
1/12/2011 10:33:48 AM ET
Great aircraft. Remember them well from when I was at Ubon RTAFB Thailand in 1972 with the 8th TFW 408th MMS. Glad to see USAF still has use for this ole warbird.From a weapons loader.
Don Tucker, Maryland
 
1/12/2011 9:08:55 AM ET
You will only hear the Howl if they are flying the QRF4C Phantoms to tow those targets. The QF4E Phantoms do not have the Howl because they are powered by J79-17 engines which did away with the Howl. I would like to know where they attach the tow target to on the aircraft since they could not be using the parachute anchor
Phantom Phixer, Cincinnati Ohio
 
1/12/2011 8:47:18 AM ET
Wow... I can't believe the beast still lives I remember the F-4 back in Suwon Korea 87'... can't recall a better alarm clock it shook the walls... We use to call it the Flying Brick... GOOD TO KNOW THE AIR FORCE CAN STILL RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS OLE SKOOL MAINSTAY
Ron-D, Aberdeen Proving Ground
 
1/12/2011 8:06:56 AM ET
The F-4 is such an awesome machine and a legendary fighter. Hope that it can continue as a work horse to help preserve freedom for many decades to come.
Paul Simmons, Patrick
 
1/12/2011 4:26:01 AM ET
What an aircraft. I remember catching them as a barrier maintenance technician at Clark AB Philippines. Normal everyday along with Cope Thunder Exercises. Still have a few flying here in Turkey. What a Machine
Philip Hammond, Incirlik Air Base Turkey
 
1/11/2011 8:40:22 PM ET
I guess that the "new" Air Force has forgotten that we used the F4D's to tow the targets back in the 80's. Why did it take so long for someone to figure this out. Also, what dummy thought that it was better to tow targets with Lear jets? Man, I wish that I had that contract. Seems that the military has gotten used to using contractors and that, boys and girls, wastes a lot of cash. We need to put the military thinking back into the military complex. If we do not we are in big trouble.
Jonesy, Spokane WA
 
1/11/2011 8:24:04 PM ET
How I remember the ground shaking as the F-4s took off with the burners belching fire, especially at Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska, as the alert birds rotated at the end of the runway and flew vertically out of sight.
John Rytkonen, Lake Charles LA
 
1/11/2011 3:32:33 PM ET
Good to know the howl of the F-4 will still be heard, regardless of the mission.
Rolex, Charleston SC
 
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