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ACC confident in F-22

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by Tech. Sgt. Amy Robinson
Air Combat Command Public Affairs


5/5/2012 - LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE, Va. (AFNS) -- Gen. Mike Hostage, commander of Air Combat Command, talked with media here April 30 about the national security imperative for the F-22, the status of efforts to identify a root cause for unexplained physiological incidents, and risk mitigation efforts since the Raptor's return to flying operations in September 2011.

Confirming recent media reports of the F-22 deploying to Southwest Asia, Hostage emphasized the Raptor's ability to support combatant commander requirements around the world.

"I won't comment where it's deployed to or where it deployed from, but yes, the F-22 is on an operational deployment now. And this is not the first operational deployment," he said. "If your adversary is so concerned about what your capabilities are they decide not to engage with you, that to me is the ultimate use of your military capability. People pay attention to where this airplane goes and what it does...we need to make sure that it's a sustained part of our inventory."

The command-directed stand down from May to September 2011 was a prudent measure following reports of potential oxygen system malfunctions. Since the stand down, ACC has implemented a number of risk mitigation measures intended to protect F-22 pilots and maintenance crews and prevent future incidents.

Hostage said he understands there are still concerns about the aircraft; however, he explained that there's always a certain amount of risk involved, and the risk must be balanced with the requirement for the capability.

"In a peacetime training circumstance, we want to operate at as low of risk is prudent for the level of training we get out of a mission," he said. "When we go into combat, risk goes up, but the reason to assume that risk goes up as well.

"We live in a community where risk is part of our lives," he said. "If we think the risk has gone to a level where we just can't accept it, we either reduce that risk or eliminate it. But right now, we believe that risk -although it's not as low as we would like it - is low enough to safely operate the airplane at the current tempo."

Hostage said he believes this risk is not a risk he expects his Airmen to take alone. In an effort to learn more about the aircraft and get a better understanding of what F-22 pilots are dealing with, ACC's commander will soon begin flying the Raptor.

"I'm asking these guys to assume some risk that's over and above what everybody else is assuming, and I don't feel like it's right that I ask them to do it and then I'm not willing to do it myself -- that's not fair," he said, adding that the day they figure out what the problem is the day he will stop flying.

Since the aircraft resumed flying operations in September, the F-22 has flown more than 12,000 sorties and returned to operational capability.

"We've taken a very specific, methodical approach to how we return to flying -- the types of missions and the durations of the missions," said Maj. Gen. Charles Lyon, ACC director of operations. "We've been continually increasing the types and durations."

The Air Force continues to search for the root cause of the unexplained physiological incidents using detailed data-collection methods, which will soon include centrifuge and high-energy testing. Hostage said he believes the command is making significant progress toward an answer; however, he emphasized that scientific testing and data collection take time.

"I believe we are making significant progress toward an answer," said Hostage. "I don't want to characterize how far or when because I don't own the progress of science. But I am confident we're going to get to a solution."

Both Lyon and Hostage compared this to the early days of the F-16.

Although the first F-16 had its first operational flight in 1970, the combat edge aircrew flight equipment, which was optimized for high-G flight, wasn't fielded until about 1988, Lyon said.

"We didn't field it slowly because we had fiscal challenges - it took us that long to get the understanding over time of what was actually happening."

Hostage illustrated a similar analogy regarding the unknown effects of human physiology and technology.

"What we're looking at is human physiology and the regime this airplane operates in," he said. "This airplane does things airplanes have never done before in regimes of flight that we've never operated in before."

And Hostage said he's confident they will find a solution for what he calls "the most tactically-capable aircraft in the world."

"This nation needs this airplane - and every one of them," he said. "I wish I had ten times as many as I have."



tabComments
5/11/2012 12:51:54 AM ET
I remember the F 15 AND F 14 had many troubles as do all aircraft in their early years. Also this big deal over the F 22 not being used in combat after all this time is bunk. I also remember the F 15 was around since about 1975 and I don't think we used it in major combat until 19901991. F 22 and F 35 are needed for the next 30 years or so. Today's society can't think past the last text they sendrecieve
craig, marion iowa
 
5/9/2012 4:04:45 AM ET
I honestly think that if it's possible the 22 should be retrofitted with the tried and proven MSOGS system. Otherwise talk to Tom Jorgenson. I really don't know much about oxygen systems but he sure seems to. Maybe that's what the Air Force needs Some civilian Scientists Doctors or whoever has knowledge about the symptoms of this issue. Kind of like being on the outside looking in so to speak. Perhaps we need a new set of eyes on the situation to come up with new solutions. I'm not the smartest person by any means whatsoever. But it just sounds like it would make sense to me. Anyways that's my opinion. Take it for what it's worth if it's worth anything at all. Keep in mind that I'm just a simple Airman that works on F-15's...
Mike, ID
 
5/8/2012 4:01:36 PM ET
Guess the Maj and Capt on 60 Minutes should be happy if they still flying Predators after this. But they are ANG and can get away speaking their mind. Means more seats and hours for AD Raptor pilots.
IM Dunn, CONUS
 
5/8/2012 2:18:16 PM ET
The 60 Minutes piece was a bunch of guesses. Many of the 'facts' presented can easily be proven wrong. I know a lot of F-22 pilots -- work with them every day. They aren't worried.
Sue, USA
 
5/8/2012 10:44:30 AM ET
@Retired Airman I highly doubt it but it is obvious it is not going to come from anyone in the USAF.
D. Hunter, Pentagon
 
5/8/2012 10:03:51 AM ET
I don't think the truth is going to come from either the 60 Minutes people OR on any website run by the Air Force. If you want truth go ask an F-22 pilot off the record
Stuart, Planet Earth
 
5/8/2012 8:16:47 AM ET
And you think the truth is going to come from the 60 Minutes people?
Retired Airman, Virginia
 
5/7/2012 6:45:44 AM ET
Kind of hard to understand the General's confidence after watching 60 Minutes last night. Maybe some day the truth will be told to the American Public.
D. Hunter, Pentagon
 
5/6/2012 10:20:12 PM ET
Before appealing to a new frontier in physiology research perhaps they can try reverting to oxygen bottles as the primary oxygen source instead of OBOGS. I don't remember seeing anything that suggests they've tried this yet.If the problem disappears we know what we are up against.
Kazuaki Shimazaki, Hong Kong
 
5/6/2012 7:56:53 PM ET
Saw the Sixty Minutes discussion of the F-22 Raptor oxygen issue and a possible cause came to mine. My apologies if this is something you've already considered.Have you considered the possibility that the oxygen being fed back into the pilots might be tainted with ozone? Ozone often forms in cases where oxygen is processed and the symptoms at various levels exactly match those that the pilots described - dizziness near loss of consciousness higher lung damage cough.Given that you're apparently been looking for changes in the oxygen levels and/or contaminants - ozone seems to me to be the most likely explanation. Most tests for oxygen levels probably wouldn't look awry. The contaminant is actually a form of oxygen and it wouldn't be filterable except with special ozone filters - and the oxygen that the pilots are breathing has been processed by the plane before being fed to them. It's quite possible that part of the processing is actually increasing the ozone levels to the ...
E. Tom Jorgenson, Missouri
 
5/6/2012 7:45:05 PM ET
As a Resiratory Therapist for the last 30 years it appears to me there is a miniuum PaO2 problem with your system. Adding Continous Positve Airway Pressure of 5 to 15 CMH2O to the mask system may solve the problem. This is done routinely and rather simply in the hospital every day using a simple exhalation restrictor valve.Sincerly Ernest Mendenhall RRt
Ernest Mendenhall, Traverse City Mi.
 
5/5/2012 11:22:08 PM ET
Gen Hostage misses the point if he thinks anything in the military is 'fair'. it aint about fair sir it's about killing bad people and protecting good people. putting a hellfire into an al qaeda truck isn't very fair either but it gets done. a 4 start stealing sorties from a line captain sure isn't fair either. simply trust those in the right leadership positions to do their job. isn't decentralized execution still a tenet of airpower
Stump, Portland
 
5/5/2012 3:19:46 PM ET
Although the first F-16 had its first operational flight in 1970. MUST BE A TYPO AS THERE WAS A FLY OFF BETWEEN THE F-16 AND F-17 GOING ON IN 1973.
JF SMITH, MS
 
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