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Students in the 336th Training Squadron march Nov. 30, 2010, after classes with their military training leader, Tech. Sgt. Terrance Boyd. A new technical training management system was implemented Nov. 15, 2010, by 2nd Air Force officials. (U.S. Air Force photo/Kemberly Groue)
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Air Force implements new transition program

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by Staff Sgt. Kimberly Moore
81st Training Wing Public Affairs


11/30/2010 - KEESLER AIR FORCE BASE, Miss. (AFNS) -- The Air Force's new technical training transition program was implemented Nov. 15, after test periods here and at Goodfellow Air Force Base, Texas.

"Over the past 18 years, the enlisted phase program had transformed into a bloated management tool used to control and manage Airmen," said Chief Master Sgt. Edward Bradley, the training chief of 2nd Air Force's military, in explaining why the change was necessary.

In an effort to create a more descriptive way to explain the duties of their position, military training leaders have gone through a few title changes, from student training adviser to military training managers to MTLs.

"Unfortunately, the management philosophy did not change with the titles, so a new transition program was developed," the chief said.

The new transition program will better help Airmen ease into the Air Force lifestyle. A few noticeable differences between the old program and the new are the number of phases, phase backs, MTL workload, physical training testing and tobacco use.

"Previously, in the three-phase system, if an Airman met all requirements, Phase II was granted on day 15 and Phase III was granted on day 36," Chief Bradley explained. "The new two-phase transition program uses an initial transition period and an advanced transition period that employs a core values approach to adapt Airmen to the military lifestyle.

"During the ITP, the goals are to indoctrinate a technical training lifestyle, set the standard and define expectations," he said. "Airmen must meet requirements such as excelling in performance in dormitory and dress and appearance inspections, display knowledge of the unit mission and core values and exhibit academic excellence prior to transitions into the ATP.

"During the ATP, MTLs will continuously monitor and mentor, focusing on the whole Airman," he said. "They will inspire Airmen's behavior through their own actions and rehabilitate Airmen when required, providing appropriate counseling.

"The new program allows MTLs to act as leaders rather than just managers, to get away from their desk to provide more supervision and utilize their personal and military experiences while mentoring," Chief Bradley said.

Once Airmen reach the ATP, they'll remain there. Gone are the fears of phase backs, in which a student would be reassigned to a previously completed phase and have to re-accomplish requirements to "phase up," he said.

"Phase backs will no longer be in place," Chief Bradley said. "Rather, those identified would undergo a remedial transition period which will run parallel with their current ITP or ATP. The specifically identified behavior will be focused on and corrected. MTLs will work in conjunction with squadron senior leadership to tailor corrective measures."

The remedial transition period, a temporary measure tailored to raise performance to meet standards, should last no more than 15 calendar days, officials said. A flight chief may extend the RTP another 15 days, not to exceed 30 consecutive days. Subsequent RTPs may be applied whenever performance falls below standards.

Workloads of MTLs will also change. To allow MTLs to better interact and lead, a unit may have to instill three work shifts.

Additionally, with academic success as a requirement to advance into ATP, MTLs will have to work closely with the Airmen's academic instructors.

"Previously, there was little to no interaction between the two," Chief Bradley said.

"Through the old phase system, Airmen took physical training tests to 'phase up' and prior to departing for their first duty station," he noted. "In the new transition program, Airmen will take monthly PT appraisals and PT three days per week."

Another noticeable change from the phase system to the transition program is the smoking policy. Under the old phase program, students weren't allowed to smoke on base.

"Not allowing students to smoke presented a huge obstacle with our local communities," Chief Bradley said. "Unfortunately, Airmen were smoking right outside the gates or in front of people's residences. They were also smoking in the woods and dormitories, creating a fire hazard. With the new program, students can use tobacco in designated tobacco use areas within their training area during non-academic hours and while not in uniform."

Students smoking, PT standards, phases and MTL workloads are just a few areas undergoing changes with the new transition program, and tweaks are expected to be made.

"This is the way we're going to do business," the chief said. "Are there things that'll have to be tweaked? Yes. However, we need to implement and give the program a chance."

"While in 'tech training,' Airmen will employ the skills taught in basic military training," Chief Bradley stated. "Furthermore, they have a responsibility to continue to learn and adapt to the military profession while conforming to military standards and customs and courtesies, all in a manner commensurate with the Air Force core values."

"On the surface, the students will love the new program because they see privileges granted at an earlier stage," he added. "However, upon completion of technical training, they will have experienced an MTL who has actually mentored and led them. It should be a positive, long-lasting impression on their careers."



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6/3/2011 3:32:36 AM ET
Everyone has an opinion, but the only opinions that could possibly be considered well rounded and valid would have to come from enlisted who have gone through a 1.5- to 2-year technical school with "leaders" who are fond of micromanagement and collective punishment. This means enlisted individuals who have juggled such a chain of command along with days full of military training AND training better suited to civilian schools taught almost exclusively by civilians from a different language and culture base. Go through that and your subsequent opinion will be completely well rounded and will be applicable to any kind or length of technical school, aside from pararescue training. Otherwise, you have no idea of how stretched-thin, inapplicable and demoralizing this phase program is in some training locations.
A1C, POM
 
5/18/2011 12:17:06 AM ET
Honestly, all of you but one don't understand. As a pipeline Airman, I've been in training status for almost three years. I graduated my course as an Arabic linguist with a 3.19 GPA, but unfortunatly did not pass my DLPT. I was a phase graduate for more than a year and a half and am now changing job codes. But, because of that, I was phased back to ATP where I now have to march everywhere I go. I have a curfew, I'm not allowed to have a life, and the big problem is I'm stuck in Monterey for another two months until I start my new training. This change comes with no exceptions. But there are exceptions that should be made for special cases. Also you all should know that I have more than 926 hours of volunteer time, was a bay chief in two different dorms for more than nine months and was a drill team captain for more than a year and a half.
AIC MGB, Monterey ca
 
1/19/2011 8:51:15 PM ET
@TSgt It's funny that you think time should earn you things. Time should never earn things. Merit however does and you do earn the phases in tech school. Just because you have a few more stripes on your sleave doesn't mean you're better than an A1C or that you have to talk down to them. You would do well to remember that especially if you're an MTL. We're all adults in the Air Force it's sort of a requirement.
A1C B, Yokota AB
 
1/11/2011 11:40:48 AM ET
That's funny how you mention earned. You've been in for what 6 months to a year and you think you've earned that right.
TSgt, Keesler
 
1/6/2011 1:06:26 AM ET
Thats funny. For pipeline students who've earned phase grad status this feels exactly like a phase-back.
A1C, POM
 
12/15/2010 2:29:14 PM ET
A1C B - you must have had very poor MTLs AND Instructors. I do more mentoring in one week here with the Airmen than I did in the 10 years before becoming an Instructor. As for your MTLs, I can't speak for them but I bet they did a lot more mentoring than you realized.
TSI, SP
 
12/15/2010 12:48:35 AM ET
SSgt MTL and TSI SP - While I was at Lackland AFB for Tech school training I was not mentored or led by any MTL there. I had MTLs that did help me get paperwork done. There were MTLs that got the job done but the Air Force does not allow MTLs the opportunity to mentor and lead with the amount of paperwork they actually have to do... that's the issue I found. Likewise I was never mentored or led by any Tech School Instructor; I sat there at my desk trying very hard to keep myself awake for my primary duty of learning when I had so much to do in the dorms like getting up at 3 am to sit at PT and then walk for a little while when everyone else ran since I couldn't participate in squadron PT while pregnant. It was pointless and there are a lot of breaks on both sides of the fence, so why target each other? There is very little difference between the letter 'I' and letter 'L' and for that matter you are both supposed to shape us into Airmen and teach us the ways of the Air Force.
A1C B, Yokota AB
 
12/14/2010 1:10:39 PM ET
And SSgt MTL the last time I checked the prestigious cookie you say we get to wear everyday is not authorized on the ABU's. The blue rope however is. Just saying...
TSI, SP
 
12/14/2010 10:12:07 AM ET
SSgt MTL I respect MTL's I really do. But as instructors we deal with the airman on a much more personal level and daily. Trying to teach Airman many who have never seen a hammer, let alone the technical things we are teaching, is a major challenge. I understand it is a difficult task to take care of hundreds of Airman on a daily basis as MTLs do. But take into account the long hours we also work. Having to bring the students in on weekends a couple hours before the duty day a couple hours after and you have a recipe for a long day. Not to mention counseling PC failures and block test failures on our own time as to not take time away from the training day and the other students learning time. And please don't get me started on loss of training time due to parades pass and reviews etc. The instructors are the ones stuck making up those training hours. So please look at both sides and I know what you deal with seeing as we do pull 12 hour NCOD shifts at the dorms.
TSI, SP
 
12/12/2010 11:23:33 PM ET
TSISPI am sure any MTL would love to trade spaces with an instructor for a day. Send us to BIC and that prestige cookie you wear everyday and we can talk. What we do is what any NCO is capable of doing X100...Mentor lead and train airmen.
SSgt MTL, San Antonio TX
 
12/12/2010 11:16:37 PM ET
A1C Little Rock you throw a Gold fish into a lake that little Gold fish would be lunch. Appreciate the little tank you are in and learn once big brother thinks you are ready....we'll let you swim Promise
SSgt MTL, San Antonio TX
 
12/8/2010 9:55:18 AM ET
A1C Little Rock I hear what you're saying, however, you must learn the concept of earning your place. We were all young airmen once so we know what you're saying. Yes the military is disciplined and regimented in mentality and structure. Yes it can be stifling and suppressive and leadership decisions do not always make sense. But this is part of YOUR growth and development. If you want more privileges and freedom you EARN IT. You don't come into a culture rooted in tradition and heritage and demand respect and rights. You're still young and may think you know a lot but some things take time to set in. Be patient and keep working hard. Youre time will come.
Steve, Tampa
 
12/7/2010 2:35:17 PM ET
Steve Tampa. I understand this is an open forum and was not attempting to discourage people opinionating on the subject at hand, because I'm doing the very same thing. However the views of young airmen are very open to interpretation. Yes, we are new to the concept and yes, many people don't realize what they have raised their right hand for. But I look around and sometimes wonder if not the leadership I see seldomly has the right views either. I believe young airmen need to be formed and yes it takes us time. As individuals we differ from one another and will for the rest of our days. When you constrict a goldfish to a small tank it doesn't grow nearly as large as if you had thrown it into a pond or lake. We airmen need a chance to grow and yes we'll make mistakes, but a little bit of freedom I do not believe would hurt the Air Force. Everything is about growth and development and getting the mission done by training and building the world's greatest Air Force.
A1C C, Little Rock
 
12/6/2010 3:40:00 PM ET
SSgt Kessler, With all due respect I do step from behind the podium every time I have to do the MTL's jobs on a 12 hour NCOD shift on the weekends. I'm still waiting for an MTL to come do my job and teach...
TSI, SP
 
12/6/2010 1:49:35 PM ET
I understand that this was the year of the Air Force family and the higher ups want to focus on morale and self esteem. However did we somehow forget that this is the MILITARY? We are expected to have strict rules and consequences. I think the military is turning into an adult baby sitting camp. Now once you have put in your time and paid your dues THEN the slack should be given to you. EARN your stripes and the privileges that come with them.
SrA B, Shaw SC
 
12/6/2010 10:32:14 AM ET
Transition program is a joke. I thought transition takes place in boot camp What is this, Club Rehab now? Make these kids grow up and treat them like every other active service member upon completion of basic. You do good, get promoted or decoration. You screw up get paperwork or disciplined under UCMJ. Cut this kid glove pampering crap.
Ol' Timer, FL
 
12/3/2010 4:17:53 PM ET
Well I was vehicle maintenance before and now I retrained into the BMET career field. It is a good thing that the current program is being phased out. It is flawed beyond belief. I understand that it is hard to control a lot of people and mistakes are bound to happen, but it is just unbelievable to see some of the stuff that happens in the school houses. I could offer a lot of examples but it is best to see how the new system will play out. The one thing I do suggest is to adopt a more ARMY like approach. Young soldiers get in trouble big time but they do not just phase them back - they get article 15s like if it was nothing and get to stay in the Army. Most Airmen are in their teens still and have no concept of responsibility of consequences. If we can teach that to the young troops the Air Force would be a better place for sure. Also there is a notorious break in communication and attitude regarding MTL's and instructors at the school house
SrA D, Scott AFB IL
 
12/3/2010 3:45:36 PM ET
Lots to be said for getting out what we put into Airmen. Higher -yet respectful- expactations will deliver higher results.
21 years, Hill AFB
 
12/3/2010 3:05:22 PM ET
A1C Little Rock public forums such as this are meant for freedom of expression and you should not take comments personally. In regards to your statement on viewing young airmen as children, most of you are child like in your mentalities and maturity levels and do not fully grasp what it is you raised your right hand to do. Life is nothing but a continuous learning process with consequences good or bad to every decision you make regardless of age sex race religion etc. How you conduct yourself in relation to those consequences determines the level of respect and treatment you receive by others. Much to learn you still have.
Steve, Tampa
 
12/3/2010 2:33:30 PM ET
SMSgt C...Very well spoken as always.
MSgt Gina M. Pope, United States Air Force Academy
 
12/3/2010 11:16:28 AM ET
Unfortunately in the world we live in today adaptations and government rules are constantly and more often than not drastically changing. The fact of the matter is there is always going to be someone disappointed feeling mistreated or being left out of the loop. I am ashamed to see Airmen of all ranks and backgrounds verbally abusing and degrading one another over such a subject as tech training regulations. We are all left with opinions and thoughts that will differ from one person to the next. In the end there is nothing saying that one way is completely wrong and what way is completely right. Airmen just arriving out of basic training are seen as children almost like elementary students and are having to grow and adapt all over again to military standards that they are being built up and held to. If treated like children how can you expect the airmen to act any different?
A1C C, Little Rock
 
12/3/2010 2:42:46 AM ET
MSgt Ret You are mistaken. All branches have some form of transition phase after BMT I was fortunate enough to have joined as a linguist so I went to the Defense Language Institute right out of basic. Unfortunately I failed my language and retrained into weapons loading. I managed to see what I consider both ends of the tech school spectrum. At DLI we were treated as adults from the get go. This was when there was a 4-phase program including phase graduate which I was awarded at DLI and was not honored with when I arrived at Sheppard. basically I was phased back as Sheppard doesn't have phase grad, although that program was AETC wide. The final phase being Phase Graduate which means you no longer get phased back for problems, but you recieve disciplinary actions along the lines of operational Airmen.
Cole, Bagram AB
 
12/2/2010 8:40:00 PM ET
I find it embarassing that a Tech School Instructor would spout something as ignorant as what I read earlier. Unless you're to put on the aguilette and fill the role as an MTL you have no idea what we do. Sitting behind a desk is the last thing we want to do; however, there are things that need to be done that require to be on the computer. As for PT, I know that I enjoy getting out there with our Airmen when I can. They respond well too. It's comments and attitudes lime yours that make the MTL/instructor relationship difficult. Thank God I don't have that problem. Step out from behind your podium and see the real world.
SSgt, Keesler
 
12/2/2010 7:28:00 PM ET
Wow, lots of comments from lots of people who think they know what they are talking about. For someone to declare an entire AF approved program broken because of one A1C is absurd. For any instructors out there, been there/done that and the job of an MTL is way more challenging. Our MTLs are hand selected and nominated by your leadership they are your best stellar NCOs. What does that say about the rest of the AF? If you find them lacking clean up your backyard stop over-inflating EPRs and hold people accountable. Maybe even look in the mirror. For the MTLs out there you all are doing a difficult job with little support vague guidelines having to rely on hunches and tons of eyes on you and you do it fantastically. Keep up the good work I am proud of you. SMSgt C
SMSgt Renee A. Concentine, Presidio of Monterey
 
12/2/2010 6:54:28 PM ET
Having been a previous instructor a great deal of emphasis is placed on the MTL. A great deal is asked of today's airmen. Have we considered asking tomorrow's supervisors what they think? Being here in the desert it's pretty funny seeing a 20 year old get smoked by 2 minutes on their mock PT test by a 35 year old. Let's focus on training mentoring and teaching and worry about smoking later. Let's focus on teaching Airmen how to be technical and tactical professionals before they get corrupted. Don't let tech training bases become the corrupter or the reason why airmen feel they are owed something.
MSgt Deployed, Iraq
 
12/2/2010 2:48:03 PM ET
KR Sheppard you have proved my point as someone with a tech training base mentality. I worked with peers and supervisors that were tech school instructors throughout my career so I understand the challenges NCOs face at these training bases. My point is not narrow minded it is simply this The new force reduction policy forces MTLs and Instructors to manage airmen using the threat of Ill kick you out for some minor things. ATP Force Reduction De-motivation. Behavior is change by motivation. ATP will only be successful if NCOs LEAD and not MANAGE these airmen because managers dont know how to motivate people.
MSgt Ret, here
 
12/2/2010 2:36:29 PM ET
Sorry all I posted that last comment to the wrong story.
KR, Sheppard
 
12/2/2010 12:50:55 PM ET
Epic Fail...just another way to be a college campus...way too may students per MTL...same problems...new eyewash.
Efcel , SJ
 
12/2/2010 11:59:01 AM ET
Wow. Being active duty for me allowed me to broaden my horizons learn about people from across our great nation and around the world experience different customs and cultures and really just soak in all the world has to offer. My question to the retired gentlemen is this, How did you make it through 20 or more years in the military with your eyes and minds so firmly closed?
KR, Sheppard
 
12/2/2010 10:28:05 AM ET
The true results of the program will be known when these airmen start rolling into new duty locations. I haven't seen one yet, but I hope there is an improvement. There does need to be a change. The last 3 or 4 tech schoolers that arrived here needed some serious adjusting. There was a total lack of discipline and respect for seniority. They eventually turn around for the most part but they should arrive from tech school that way. In addition I'm happy to see the lift on tobacco use policy. It is ridiculous to tell airmen that we expect them to act as adults yet treat them like kids.
TSgt , GF
 
12/1/2010 5:01:34 PM ET
I got out of tech school in July. Hearing the stories from other Airmen about different tech schools, I considered myself lucky to have been a part of the ITPATP phase testing @ Keesler. Even though we were given more privileges earlier than other tech schools we were expected to uphold the rules and if we didn't there were consequences. It is true that some MTL's were bad about not doing open ranks and such so you could advance. But not at the 336. Those MTL's were on top of it and I learned a lot from them. Especially TSgt. Boyd who happened to be my MTL at tech school. RED WOLVES
a1c jonesy, CO
 
12/1/2010 3:50:00 PM ET
It appears the ATP system is broke judging by comments from A1C lajes. If the system cant be managed by MTLs correctly then this program is broke out of the gate. How can you combine academic scores with ATP when scoring a 70 percent on a test is a fail. I understand the standards have been raised but this is ridiculous. I majored in adult learning concepts and retaining 70 percent of a lecture is by far acceptable. I may be wrong but I think the AF is the only branch that has a transition program after BMT. It appears this is more work than its worth. Just treat them like Airmen and expect them to act like Airmen.
MSgt Ret, here
 
12/1/2010 2:54:21 PM ET
The Air Force is transitioning into a more combat role and it makes every possible sense to establish the combat/fitness culture early in training and an airman's career. The more involvement and support from senior leadership down to first level supervisor maintains the integrity of the program in addition to corporate culture being consistent AF wide. Expectation management tells us that what we don't do now delays progress and the cycle of change will never complete its transition. Reading the other articles leaves me in disbelief that other leadersfuture leaders don't fall in line with corporate goals and intitiatives. In my opinion I believe that when a member of an organization no longer believes in or supports organizational goals and missions then it would be their time to transition out.
MSgt, Robins AFB
 
12/1/2010 2:48:10 PM ET
I can see the point several here are trying to make but I spent two years...count 'em...TWO YEARS in tech school. I've seen the phase program switch over to the ITPATP and I've been on training bases during the tobacco ban and also when it was lifted. Having the tobacco ban does not help break people of smoking. It just means that young Airmen who either are not allowed to have a POV are not allowed to ride in a POV or maybe simply don't own one have to walk all the way off base in the dark to have a cigarette then have to rush back to their rooms before curfew which puts them in harms way and lowers morale. Also, it just means that when they do have a chance to get away and smoke they turn into chain smokers because they couldn't smoke all day. And I've had wonderful experiences with tech school instructors where I developed deep respect and loyalty towards them because they were great mentors and instructors. MTLs do not fall into that group.
Fitz, MD
 
12/1/2010 12:42:29 PM ET
This is the military. When in training you should be in training. Making life easier for our Airmen is getting ridiculous. If you can hack it then ask to be separated. In our current operating environment we still strive on making our lives easier. When I deploy with the Army or Marines I do not focus on making my life easier. I learn to adapt. Some of who I see now in uniform is embarrasing. Privileges should be just that. You have no rights once you sign the dotted line. Everything should be earned and maintained otherwise it goes away. Again this is the Military. The old Air Force mentality needs to go away.
TSgt ML, PA
 
12/1/2010 10:53:35 AM ET
No phasebacks This is bad and good. Bad - It was a great way to rein people in when they weren't getting with the program. It reminded you that Big Blue owned you 24/7 and that some things like goofing off during weekends etc were privileges, instead of rights. Good - I guess this is the end of the days of deliberately phasing back entire student squadrons so they were stuck in the squadron area then allowing them to wear civvies if they went to the squadron party. Yes Keesler I'm talking to you.
Bill, Waldorf MD
 
12/1/2010 9:58:57 AM ET
With a son at Goodfellow AFB since Oct. This program isn't working well combined with the new force reduction policy that makes failing 5 of over a 100 PEs not Mid or End of block test reason to kick them out. Since when is a 70 a failing grade MTLs Instructors and 1Sgts have not been using leadership skills to motivate these airman forget ATP they consistently use the threat of I'll kick you out for any minor thing you do as a way to scare these new Air Force members. You cant motivate and lead people using threats
MSgt Ret, here
 
12/1/2010 9:46:24 AM ET
Oh my gosh You mean MTL's will actually have to come from behind their desks and do their jobs. I just fainted...Are they actually going to have to PT too and not just watch the students run? This artical sounds too much like right.
Tech School Instructor, SP
 
12/1/2010 9:29:31 AM ET
It's great they're working on our Airmen early in their careers, but my question is what happens to the standards and discipline when they leave tech school and join the ranks at duty stations? I've seen too many instances where basic customs and courtesies are thrown right out the window. So we fixed our process with our Airmen. What about NCOs and officers with refresher remedial training on being supervisors and leaders? Sure you have ALS NCO Senior NCO Academies, but many still lose sight of the responsibilities and expectations that go with their rank which begs the question if they are ready to accept the rank.
Steve, Tampa
 
12/1/2010 8:59:05 AM ET
I agree with the Capt. The AF wants to eliminate smoking but they are going to allow trainess to smoke on base. This just does not make any sense. They are making excuses to allow these trainess to smoke. I thought about becoming a MTL but now I don't think I could.
Allyn, SC
 
12/1/2010 8:30:26 AM ET
I was at Keesler while they implemented the new transition period. Its a great concept but there were still problems. Unless they've just recently changed the rules on smoking while I was there you could not smoke on base period. Students would smoke outside the gate in front of businesses. And it took me much longer than 36 days to reach ATP due to floor MTLs not wanting to conduct open ranks or room inspections which were requirements in order to transition up. In my opinion the system would be much better if the MTLs who did not follow the guidelines were watched a little bit closer.
A1C, Lajes
 
12/1/2010 8:25:57 AM ET
Agree with Capt B in Germany. It should be made as difficult as possible to smoke for airmen in tech training. The old smoke 'em if you got 'em mentality certainly didn't do me any favors when I was a young airman going through training. Airmen are taught everything from how to eat healthy to how to balance a checkbook and yet tobacco use is still officially condoned while they're in school. It's dumb...
Ret Herk Eng, Fort Walton Beach Florida
 
12/1/2010 3:51:05 AM ET
I think they just blew it with the tobacco issue here. It should have gotten more difficult rather than easier. Tech training is an additional step toward breaking the smoking habit of Air Force members. The longer we can keep them smokeless the better chance members will stay smoke free later. The restrictions should follow the appearance standards regarding males with earrings. Will not on or off duty in or out of uniform on or off base.
Capt B, Germany
 
11/30/2010 9:20:47 PM ET
Sounds like this will improve the quality of life at technical school. I can't remember a worse time in my life than being at Keesler. One thing I would change is that the goal isn't to indoctrinate Airmen makes it sound like we're brainwashing or filling them up with propaganda. We still want to foster free thinkers and develop leaders not foster an Air Force of Yes sir robots.
TSgt, FOB Nowhere
 
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