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Appeals court issues stay on 'Don't Ask' order

Posted 10/21/2010 Email story   Print story

    


by Donna Miles and Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service


10/21/2010 - WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- The Defense Department supports the Oct. 21 federal appeals court decision to temporarily block a judge's order that put an immediate end to the so-called "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law that bans gay men and lesbians from serving openly in the military.

"For the reasons stated in the government's submission, we believe a stay is appropriate," said Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision.

The three-judge panel yesterday issued a statement which noted that it allowed the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law to stand to provide more time to study the issues involved in its possible repeal. The court set an Oct. 25 deadline for both sides to submit legal documents for consideration.

The higher-court decision temporarily suspends U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips' Oct. 12 ruling that the law is unconstitutional. Judge Phillips issued an injunction requiring the department "immediately to suspend and discontinue any investigation, or discharge, separation or other proceeding that may have commenced under the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' act or its implementing regulations."

In its appeal, Justice Department officials asked that the law be reinstated, at least until a study of the impact of repealing it is completed.

Defense Department officials want a deliberative, long-range look at any changes in the law, said Pentagon spokesman Marine Corps Col. David Lapan.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates set up a working group to examine the ramifications of a possible repeal of the law.

The group is scheduled to submit its report Dec. 1.

"The review that is going on would look at all the far-ranging impacts of what changing the law would mean," Colonel Lapan said.

A long-range plan for changing the law would include a period of transition to conduct training to ensure that everyone was informed about new policies and procedures, he said.

In response to Judge Phillips' ruling, Pentagon officials had instructed recruiters to begin processing paperwork for openly gay men or lesbians to apply to serve in the military. But citing uncertainty over final disposition of the matter in the courts and on Capitol Hill, Mrs. Smith warned at the time that potential applicants needed to be aware that the situation could change, as it has with the Oct. 20 appellate court decision.



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10/23/2010 3:05:00 AM ET
Just because homosexuals wouldn't be getting discharged for their orientation doesn't mean they would be allowed to show any more affection in uniform than heterosexuals. Any time the DADT issue comes up it seems like 90 percent of what I hear is freaking out about group showers as if it's going to turn into some hedonistic chaos. Is this really all most people are worried about? Gay or straight, if you are in the military you should be adult enough to get along at work even if you don't agree with their private behavior.
Sgt H, VA
 
10/22/2010 6:22:18 PM ET
@ Tyndall If letting gays serve openly indermines the integrity of the military what does letting closed minded people like you do for your integrity and service before self? Regardless of how you feel we are all ONE team in ONE fight. If anyone is that insecure about their sexuality then you should really evaluate yourself and not focus to hard on the person next to you. No one should stand and fight for something that they do not believe.If DADT does get appealed you should really ask yourselves are you going to fight for a nation that stands for something you truly don't believe in. Everyone is so focused on their on beliefs and forget about the mission. What happened to service before self?
Simms, Hill
 
10/22/2010 5:35:46 PM ET
OK we are all overlooking one big part of this whole situation, seperate quarters and showering facilities. We all remember the gang latrines and showers of basic and if the openly homosexuals are allowed to serve will they have to provide extra facilities for these individuals on a more private scale. Personally I don't care one way or another if they serve and in fact I know many gay people who are very positive additions to the military, but there are things that need to be adressed in order to not violate the rights of other hetero military members.
J, Warren AFB
 
10/22/2010 4:52:33 PM ET
Openly homosexuals in the armed services would cause a mass exodus of normal men and women.
ALVIN ZIEGELBAUER, BEDFORD TX.
 
10/22/2010 4:32:29 PM ET
Keep your sexual preference undisclosed and we will all get along. Straight people aren't even allowed to show PDA while in uniform so it doesn't make sense to make gays open. Don't mess with nature.
Sebastien, Florida
 
10/22/2010 3:18:25 PM ET
The judicial power shall extend to all Cases in Law and Equity arising under this Constitution the Laws of the United States and Treaties made or which shall be made under their Authority... It is the purpose of the judicial system to make judgements upon the laws of the nation and to tell legislative bodies when they have oversteped their bounds. DADT is an law enacted by congress therefore it is under the perview of federal judges.
Analyst, Barksdale
 
10/22/2010 3:09:09 PM ET
I find it funny how people act like it's going to be a free-for-all when open homosexuality is allowed. Look hetero homosexuals all have to follow the same sexual harassment guidelines. If they break that guidance they will be punished straight or gay.Also if some dude finds my lumpy hairy scarred body attractive then he probably needs to go to mental health because that's just crazy. lol. I was less lumpy and hairy when I got married so she's just stuck with it.
MM, FL
 
10/22/2010 1:58:11 PM ET
Whether or not openly gay men and women should be able to serve in the military is actually not my main concern with what is currently occurring with DADT. Personally I am all for allowing openly gay men and women to serve however I have a huge problem with the judiciary legislating from the bench - We have 3 distinctive branches of each level of government each with their own sets of checks and balances for a reason. DADT was routed through and passed legislative procedures in Congress. The judiciary has now ruled this law to be unconstitutional and I believe it is too but the judiciary is overstepping its boundaries by ordering the DOD to stop enforcing it. Allow the legislature to do its job and replaceupdate the law to meet constitutional standards but until then DADT must be properly enforced. That is the proper procedure and the best way to gain the highest degree of buy-in possible from all parties involved.
A. Jackson, KAFB MS
 
10/22/2010 1:24:03 PM ET
If nothing else maybe our unit functions will now be better decorated and catered. Maybe we'll get nicer PT uniforms as well.
daniel s, Anchorage
 
10/22/2010 12:27:49 PM ET
Allowing open homosexuals the privilege to serve undermines the integrity of the United States Armed Forces.
Tyndall O, Tyndall AFB
 
10/22/2010 11:54:24 AM ET
So my question is IF the law is unconstitutional can a service member who was separated under this unconstitutional law come back in the service at the same or higher rank becaues of lost promotion opportunities and get back pay Can't wait for this to start. It's only the tip of the iceberg.
BH, LA
 
10/22/2010 11:01:34 AM ET
Seconded Airman. I don't care what coworkers religious political or sexual views and practices are. As long as they are professional at work and don't push anything then there is no problem. We have more important things to focus on in the DoD like doing our jobs.
Analyst, Barksdale
 
10/22/2010 9:55:05 AM ET
Wonderful news. We have to remember that the military has historically been an institution of significant social change the integration of African Americans women in combat roles our officer and enlisted promotion systems the GI Bill etc. This is a proud moment in our rich history.
Capt S, NH
 
10/22/2010 8:44:16 AM ET
I agree with the comments above and I would like to note that the ban was stripped of it's power for a week and it was barely noticed. There wasn't an outbreak of homophobia. Thousands of servicemembers didn't refuse to work because of it. Operations continued as normal and just shows you the environment we have in the military. The vast majority of us embrace diversity across the board. The decision to fight the court's decision only confirms the administration's cowardice but also the lack of faith in America's troops and the hours upons hours of Equality Training we have already been forced to endure. Sec. Gate's recent changes to the process of discharging gay servicemembers made it so hard to be discharged that the ban is pretty much powerless anyways.
Regis S, RAF Lakenheath
 
10/22/2010 8:36:30 AM ET
I guess if the military is going to allow open and vocal homosexuals men who get aroused looking at other mens bodies and women who get aroused looking at other womens bodies to knowingly room with each other and shower in the same bathrooms I guess they should do the same with normal people men and women or wouldn't that be discrimination Hopefully they won't go a step further and cater to the animal lovers.
Paul, Keesler Air Force Base
 
10/22/2010 7:57:38 AM ET
I do not care about the sexual orientation of the people that I work with. I do however have a problem with open bay showers and the close sleeping quarters down range. Mostly for the same reasons that I wouldn't want to share open showers or sleeping quarters with the opposite sex. If the military can properly facilitate it than I'm fine with it.
Williams, Europe
 
10/21/2010 8:38:38 PM ET
why
gijoe, afb
 
10/21/2010 8:26:02 PM ET
In its appeal Justice Department officials asked that the law be reinstated at least until a study of the impact of repealing it is completed.I don't really see why such a study necessary unless it's just to give the DoD time to come up with a replacement policy. The judge ruled that DADT is unconstitutional. Either it IS unconstitutional and needs to be repealed or it isn't and should be reinstated.
Airman M, Biloxi MS
 
10/21/2010 7:51:24 PM ET
The law should never have existed in the first place. It was created in response to ignorance and fear. If someone lacks the capacity to live and operate in the military alongside a homosexual I wonder what other debilitating insecurities they have. Homosexuals should have the right to serve openly. At the same time I fail to understand why a person would announce their homosexuality unless they are trying to be an activist. The military requires conformity not public activism.
Modern Mind, Year 2010
 
10/21/2010 6:50:39 PM ET
I don't really care if gay people serve in the miltary or not. Servicemembers are servicemembers and that's all there should be to it. Whether you're gay or not has no relevance in the workplace and therefore shouldn't even come up in conversation. I would say I'd have no problem working with gay people as long as they kept it professional while at work. I know society begs to differ nowadays, but there are some things you just don't talk about at work and your sex/love life is one of them. I doesn't do anything but create drama and take focus off getting the job done to support our boys and girls downrange.
Airman, PACAF
 
10/21/2010 3:23:28 PM ET
Show solidarity with the LGBT community.
Zach Wigham, Westfield MA
 
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