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C-27 program cut explained, budget aligned with strategy

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by Tech. Sgt. Jess Harvey
Air Force Public Affairs Agency


3/30/2012 - WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- The Air Force deputy chief of staff for strategic plans and programs discussed the reasoning behind the C-27J Spartan program cut from the fiscal 2013 budget request during the Air Force Association's monthly breakfast seminar here March 27.

"It's not because it isn't a good aircraft, and it's not because it wasn't a good idea $487 billion ago," said Lt. Gen. Christopher Miller. "We are going to make more disciplined use of defense dollars."

From a financial and programmatic perspective, anytime an entire weapons system, its logistic support and training infrastructure can be eliminated without harming the capabilities of the force, the benefits are greater, Miller said.

"The savings that you reap from that kind of action is far greater than if you just retired a fractional number of the fleet," he said.

Coupling the facts that the Air Force was under financial pressure and the life-cycle costs of the C-27 exceeded that of the C-130 Hercules because of how it was to be based, there wasn't any other realistic option, especially given that the Air Force can accomplish its goals with the C-130, according to Miller. "We remain committed to supporting our Army teammates."

"(Cutting the C-27 program) was a decision we did not like to make, but that we had to make," he said. "Its capacity, over and above the rest of the fleet, simply was not needed under the demands of the new strategy. What that allowed us to do was keep some very important things on track."

He said the savings allowed the Air Force to maintain focus on systems like the KC-46A Tanker and the F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter as well as other, not-so-visible systems like global positioning satellites, space programs, and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems.

"We want to make decisions in the near term that support the strategic vision in the long term," Miller said. "As we start to come out of Afghanistan, and have come out of Iraq, we are facing a new resource era."

He said the Air Force is looking at a type of full-spectrum rebalancing within the force.

"We're trying to bring all these things we've done for a long time into a sustainable balance for the future," the general said. "Space and cyber are clearly more predominant in all aspects of military operations than they used to be."

The Air Force is going to put even more emphasis on making sure the active, Guard and Reserve components are balanced appropriately and making sure Airmen and assets are fully ready all the time, he said.

"Maintaining a smaller force that is anything less than ready is a bad idea," said Miller.



tabComments
7/6/2012 8:44:10 AM ET
What's funny is that there are no comments posted here defending the program -- which either means that USAF is not posting them or that there is no one who reads this page. The cost savings per ton and per flying hour mean that the C-27J Spartan pays for itself over the ancient American-built C-130. An improved STOL capability better avionics and proven in-theater. That's why Congress has frozen these cuts.To make matters worse this was supposed to be a JOINT program. The Air Force talks Joint and then kills a preemptive joint program and instead puts money into manned fighters. Now there's your real waste of capital.
27-year officer, Michigan
 
4/12/2012 4:27:04 PM ET
Have to agree with Bubba just because the Air Force has the capability but isn't providing the Army what they need and request. Thus the Army procured some c-27 to fill the gap. Ofcource the Air Force doesn't need the c-27 and is cutting the fat to support programs and aircraft that it does.
gabe, moody
 
4/9/2012 12:41:52 PM ET
The C-27A or J has capabilities the C-130 doesn't. See Bleriot's recent book on the Panama program. But they only make sense if it's a need we HAVE to meet and if we can pay for it. For where we're fighting and what we're doing a C-130 is good enough. USAF gambled on this program assuming the money would be there and now it's not. The worst part is we screwed the Army in the process.
DT, Scott IL
 
4/5/2012 11:12:23 AM ET
@Joe I couldnt agree more. The AF knew exactly what it was doing when it made this decision. The AF knew it had little use for the C-27but at the same time it couldnt let the Army encroach on its territory. If another service starts having the same capability it pushes aonther to irellevancy. Take it away from the Army then kill it. The airlift monoploy is safe.
Deja Vu, AF
 
4/5/2012 7:35:01 AM ET
The C-27 was originally an US Army plane to replace the C-23 another ex-USAF plane and go the last mile. The USAF couldn't let this happen and took it away from the US Army. The real loser US Army.
Joe, Trenton NJ
 
4/4/2012 9:59:06 PM ET
Another waste of money on an un-needed aircraft JSF anyone
IC, PR
 
4/3/2012 8:24:15 PM ET
@Bubba you hit the nail on the head. If we knew the real definition of a requirement and enforced it a lot of these programs would never get funded to begin with.
Paul, Hanscom
 
4/3/2012 5:54:11 PM ET
Bubba. The Army wanted the C-27 for inter theatre tactical airlift Currently the Army is using thier C-23 Sherpas Chinook Helicopters and Private Contractors to do this mission because we won't do it because it is too risky to send a C-130 or the costs charged to the ARMY is too high..
CD, WA
 
4/3/2012 11:27:34 AM ET
If we didnt invent needs in the first place we wouldnt have to cut programs. The real blame should be on the ones who didnt do their homework on the actual requirement. It seems that the C-130 wasis doing a fine job but someone thought a C-27 would be even cooler still. Again whos the honest broker asking if there was an actual requirement not being met
Bubba, Colorado
 
4/3/2012 8:44:12 AM ET
I am amazed by people. If a story gets posted about spending money on something the comments are filled with outrage about how much we spend. And when a story is about cutting something the comments are filled with outrage about cutting programs and jobs. So which is it Do we need to cut government spending or not Or do we need to cut everything except the things in your backyard
Paul, Hanscom
 
4/2/2012 1:44:27 PM ET
I feel this should outrage every U. S. taxpayer. This is government waste at it's finest.
Jeff Bechtel, Mansfield Oh
 
4/2/2012 12:28:15 PM ET
The logistical nightmare that comes as spare baggage with this program is unenviable. We as a service have an uncanny way of making history repeat its self. We pulled the aircraft out of service in the 90's from Howard AB for good reason. The aircraft it's self is good but the baggage that is levied on the sustainment from the OEM is boarder line criminal.
BW, North
 
4/2/2012 11:50:15 AM ET
Yep that's the Afghan Air Force version sitting on the ramp in Kabul Intl.
RN, DC
 
4/2/2012 11:49:09 AM ET
Give them to the army and see how manytroops they want to cut to support thiswastful program.
Ernest Banner, Erwin Tn. 3765p
 
3/30/2012 7:05:36 PM ET
The USAF doesn't have a C-27 program it has a C-27J program. The image above is of a C-27A not the C-27J the USAF is proposing to cut. Just shows how much thought went into the proposal to cut the C-27J.
TJ, USA
 
3/30/2012 6:14:12 PM ET
If the AF gives up on the C-27 than we shouldn't stand in the way of the Army getting them. It's the Army that wanted them in the first place for inter theatre tactical airlift before we hijacked the program with the promise to do it.
CD, WA
 
3/30/2012 2:11:09 PM ET
I understand Lt Gen Miller defending this fiasco as best he can. The fact remains that the Army wanted to own and operate these aircraft to replace ancient C-23's. My beloved USAF fought tooth and nail to keep them out of Army hands and is now killing the program.
Bill Brockman, Atlanta GA
 
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