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Fifth generation fighters crucial to air superiority

Posted 3/2/2012 Email story   Print story

    


by Tech. Sgt. Jess Harvey
Air Force Public Affairs Agency


3/2/2012 - WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- The Air Force is the world's most advanced air and space force and, with the integration of fifth generation aircraft, is gaining new tactical advantages that transcend beyond just stealth into areas such as enhanced maneuverability, multi-role capabilities and fused sensor and avionics systems that can communicate with other weapons systems.

That's why it is imperative that U.S. forces continue to develop and begin to use fifth-generation fighters as they transition to the new Pacific-based strategy, according to Lt. Gen. Herbert J. "Hawk" Carlisle, Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, Plans and Requirements, Headquarters U.S. Air Force.

During the Air Force Association monthly breakfast here Feb. 28, he said fifth-generation fighters, such as the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and the F-22 Raptor, are critical to maintaining air superiority and global precision attack core competencies.

"The threat environment is continuing to grow, so as we look at how we're going to maintain those competencies in the future, that's where fifth generation fighters come in," he said. "It's not just about stealth."

"The F-22 is better than any other aircraft in the world at air-to-ground except for the F-35, and the F-35 is better than any other aircraft in the world at air-to-air except for the F-22," said Carlisle.

The general said the Air Force can continue to maintain the most elite fourth generation aircraft in the world, but that won't prepare the U.S. to handle threats in the future.
"Our Air Force has got to keep evolving to meet these new challenges as we move forward into the future," said Carlisle.

To illustrate this evolution and fifth generation fighter jet technology, the general shared a scenario in which an F-22 data-links coordinates to a Navy submarine-launched tomahawk missile onto a target.

"Now you have two stealth platforms, a submarine and an F-22, communicating with naval ordnance," he said.

That level of interoperability is a large part of what makes the fifth generation aircraft so vital to the Air Force and U.S. military in general, he added. Aircraft must not only be stealth, but also be highly maneuverable, be able to conduct multiple roles, and these aircraft must also be able to handle sensor and avionics information in a network integrated way not only for the pilot, but for the entire joint force.

"We have to have a fused system capability and have them networked and integrated across the force," he said. "To me, that's as important on a fifth-generation fighter as anything."



tabComments
3/6/2012 4:14:21 PM ET
There's no real kills BECAUSE of our air superiority. If we slack, that's when we'll have to really put them to use. Think how often you've used your weapon/IBA down range. Probably not often if ever at all, but I'll be darn sure I have it available.
TSgt, JBPHH
 
3/5/2012 10:49:24 AM ET
The problem with both programs is by the time they are fielded they are already using 15 to 20 year old technology. With China hacking DOD, NASA and civilian companies, they have already taken our current technology and are incorporating that into their next generation anti aircraft defense systems. If we cannot field new weapons systems in less than 20 years we are in trouble. The air force takes over 10 years just to get a contract for a new tanker and it looks like maybe that long for a ground attack aircraft for resale.
Jerry, Oklahoma
 
3/5/2012 7:03:42 AM ET
I agree, let's wait and see on this because speed kills. The same thing was said about the F-22 and look at it...the mother of all maintenance headaches and a corrosion nightmare that will never last the test of time.
Retired USAF, WR GA
 
3/5/2012 5:04:25 AM ET
Nuclear ICBMs have never been employed either but I guess those are just Lackland Lasers too. The truth is we have to prepare for a myriad of contingencies. Air Superiority is usually taken for granted until you don't have it, and if and when a modern war with new technologies takes place we'll want to be the ones scoring aces not getting our aes handed to us by governments eyeing Pax Americana with envy.
Your Intel Officer, Al Udeid
 
3/3/2012 6:35:15 PM ET
Has it ever occurred to anyone that technology is changing too quickly to give any credibility to a generation of aircraft. I'd argue that labeling an aircraft a generational aircraft is an out-dated way of thinking ... The F-35, while great in concept 10 years ago, is already old technology. Why can't we get a General Atomics for fighter aircraft? Not necessarily unmanned but just as innovative.
Thinker, Nellis
 
3/3/2012 6:18:07 PM ET
Until we can get senior leadership to pull their heads out of the sand and seriously consider changing or eliminating the application of legacy fighter aircraft scheduling and mx philosophy mindset to 5th gen fighters, we will never consistently be able to meet MC rate or aircraft availability standards.
JustASNCO, CONUS
 
3/3/2012 1:52:02 PM ET
Pretty bold statements about 2 aircraft that havent conducted air-to-air or air-to-ground ops yet. The 35 can't get off the ground and the 22 still hasn't deployed to the AOR even though it's the 2nd best air-to-ground fighter in the world. Spare me. The 22 can talk to submarines but it can't talk to other air assets, which kept it out of libya. Keep the 22 since we already have it, scrap the 35 and invest in proven 4th gen aircraft and increase their capes.
Ed, FL
 
3/2/2012 9:27:36 PM ET
The general said The F-22 is better than any other aircraft in the world at air-to-ground except for the F-35...i guess that is why they got used so extensively in the Libyan conflict...oh wait
F16FXR, Western US
 
3/2/2012 4:30:08 PM ET
The F-35 looks great on paper, which is how it got this far. Now it cannot meet demands and is so overpriced we are selling our soul to pay for it. The F-22 was designed in 1986 and first flown in 1991 and we still have huge problems with it, so it must be augmented by 30 yr old legacy fighters. fifth gen is the not ultimate solution as the generals who do powerpoint for a living would have you beleive. Some bold, unfounded statements in this article. They should get the opinion of operators who have to deal with the cuts in their current airframes' capabilities so that these expensive jets can get built.
Anonymous, CONUS
 
3/2/2012 3:58:57 PM ET
Hey AF - Instead of cutting all the enlisted down to about 20 people why not cut out these wasteful billion dollar planes The paradime is going to shift soon to the Air Force being cargotroop transport and RPVUAV's. There hasn't been any dog fights since WWII and Korea. The AF has been top heavy since 1947. Cut half of the 0-6's and above. 1 General equals out to 15 SSgt's. The AF needs juinor enlisted more than anything and that's the first place the AF goes to cut.
Old MSgt, Active Duty USAF
 
3/2/2012 3:07:21 PM ET
I hope we are covering the less glamorous but more likely low intensity conflict. I believe the Super Tucano buy has been canceled and we are decommissioning a number of A-10s. I just dont see the F-22 or F-35 operating from primitive airfields or getting low and slow killing bad guys with AKs and RPG. SWK Colorado
Steve Kiernan, Colorado
 
3/2/2012 2:30:21 PM ET
The F-35 is only a fifth-generation fighter in the eyes of those trying to market it.
Eric Palmer, NSW
 
3/2/2012 11:41:00 AM ET
Before we go no stroking general flag officer and pilots egoss why not look at the reality of the situation. 5th generation aircraft have never served in a combat role to date. 5th generation aircraft are barely flying. 5th generation aircraft only have simulated kills. This is like playing with lackland lasers going pew pew you're dead
Same, Here
 
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