There was never any doubt. Guaranteed if this shower continue past 2015.

O dear

Beyond satire. Too bloody scary for satire. This government is now to the right of Robert Peel.

What a dystopian neoliberal sewer Britain is becoming. Can a civilisation die of shame?

This is a declaration of civil war.

The government of the UK is illegitimate. Where was a popular mandate on this given?

We are fighting for our lives.

This strikes me as a bad idea.

has no one learnt any lessons from RoboCop??

Utterly shocking

Better than being in the eurozone at the moment, where government itself is being "outsourced" to the Germans.

Privatised criminal justice system in it for the profit - A recipe for unaccountability and absolute disaster.

Will they be subject to FOI and judicial review and those other things that citizens have recourse to?

And.........................?

Who give's a monkey's which pig's in a panda?

Oh come on Dave – whatever next?
A privatized (mercenary) army?
A privatized government - only answerable to the shareholders and the bottom line …er

The police derive their authority by consent of those communities they serve. I do not recognise the authority of G4S or any other private company to police me.

I will not be alone in this. Be warned.

First Taylor-Smith says

core policing would remain a public-sector preserve

Then we have the list of policing activities up for grabs by the private sector

investigating crimes, detaining suspects, developing cases, responding to and investigating incidents, supporting victims and witnesses, managing high-risk individuals, managing intelligence, managing engagement with the public

Is all that isn't core policing, then what the fuck is?

Bottom-line - it's all up for grabs.. Everything!

Nonplu553d -

'has no one learnt any lessons from RoboCop??'

Am buying shares in O.C.P. as we speak...

It's as though a very destructive, spiteful child, along with his nasty, spiteful friends, has been given a model village to play in.

Dark days, having unfortunately worked for G4S as a steward at the 02 and being on the end of their policies such as overbooking staff for a shift and then sending people away even though they were on time with no pay or even reimbursment for travel, I am suspecting a massive reduction of police workers pay and conditions and a severe effect on the polic force because of it.

Serious stuff.

And there was me thinking we lived in a democracy.

Robocop was a dystopian piss take where the Free Market had been allowed to rampantly and comically run out of control, shame 25 years on some of the people that saw it thought it was a documentary.

Anyway, criminals take heart as like the Daleks ED209 can't handle stairs.

Although G4S isn't as good a name as OCP.

Why don't we just outsource our politicians to Switzerland?

Bliad

I don't remember this policy being in anyone's manifesto. We seem to have not learned one thing from privatisation of the water boards, the railways, power companies etc etc...Jobs for the boys to make a profit from crime.
The phrase 'Crime doesn't pay' is totally incorrect if you are a private company making a profit from what should be a public service.
More innocents arrested and searched and jailed so more profit can be made for the likes of Mr Smith

Like in the NHS, can I get priority for some services by renting them?

'The thought that everyone in the private sector is primarily motivated by profit and that is why they come to work is just simply not accurate.' OF COURSE they are motivated by profit. Privatisation of the police is a dreadful idea. How will the general public respect the police and support them when there is ANY suspicion of their motives?

For once, I am speechless.

"The thought that everyone in the private sector is primarily motivated by profit and that is why they come to work is just simply not accurate … we employ 675,000 people and they are primarily motivated by pretty much the same as would motivate someone in the public sector."

Then they won't last long.

One of the big issues in the UK economy is the modern ethos of "shareholder value" that treats business like a sponge, squeezing out of it all the resources that make it creative about its future and engaging to its staff. Having rung the business dry they sell it on before the inevitable dip in profits reaches the published figures.

This is propaganda.

On the current management model for far too much of our business, the public are right not to trust private sector involvement.

Robert Peel's a bit of a weird choice there, seeing as he was the first Prime Minister to introduce non-emergency income tax on the wealthiest and reined in reckless lending by private banks.

However, when the head of a sketchy private security company is warning you about police privatisation, you know you're up the creek with your government.

"This is not the back office – we are talking about the privatisation of core parts of the police service right across the country, including crime investigation, forensics, 999 call-handling, custody and detention and a wide range of police services."

Many forces already have civilians - yes, civilians - conducting interviews under caution with suspects in all but the most serious and complex cases.

And once you have privatisation, you lose accountability, and because of the inevitable "rationalisation" (i.e. compulsory redundancies to cut costs and maximise profit) you lose experience and you lose competence.

Not long before "civilains" will be given full police powers of entry, search, seizure and arrest. Just wait and see.

And when there is a death in custody, or an unlawful arrest, or a failed investigation, who will be accountable? And to whom?

I'd much rather the Germans in charge than G4S.

Before you all get too worked up about this, you should probably note that there's no question of outsourcing frontline policing, and a lot of police functions are wholly or partly outsourced anyway (including 999 calls, which go first to the telephone network operator).

This is a one term government ,holding a quick fire sell to their backers.NHS,education,the police force.All made possible by the spineless Lib Dems,this newspaper backed in the last election,and hasnt got the balls to admit its complicity.

To be patronising and insulting I challenge your ethos, spirit and morality in the taking of police functions. Your primary purpose is to make profit and you will use your global position to oppress as this government wants you to.

The more you intrude into public service the more distant that ethos becomes and we end up with solutions to created problems instead of effective policing by consent.

The more I read about your firm the less I trust you.

Roboplop.

You can also be in no doubt about this Mr Taylor-smith.

Although the Tories are hell-bent on privatising anything they can get their hands on which I pay my taxes towards, we all hope that the money will be invested into actually running the services so that mistakes such as: tagging false legs, remembering to pay your staff, remembering where the keys are kept, and build some competent facilities that aren't plagued by poltergeists don't happen and the money isn't just used to make a quick profit.

Labour need to make it very clear that they will revoke any such contracts without payment of penalty clauses immediately upon assuming office - it will win them votes and frighten off the investors. Are you listening, Ed?

We are in the presence of evil!

So, does this mean that in the future if we're arrested we won't be told the charge for reasons of commercial confidentiality?

G4S chief warns of mass police privatisation

Probably right,
Just one more thing the Tories failed to mention in their election manifesto.

The people who work for these companies are not motivated by profit, just as in the public sector there are good and bad. You just have to look to the high street to see the truth in that. For every mind numbingly atrocious shop assistant there are probably a dozen or so who do their profession a credit. The problem is that such people are not in a position to make a decision about issues that affect the quality of service delivered. The people who do make such decisions have a single focus, delivering share holder value and driving down the cost of the service. When faced with a decision between protecting the interests of the vulnerable in our communities and protecting the dividends of shareholders UK PLC has consistently demonstrated that shareholders will always come first.

This is one more clear demonstration that vast swathes of the private sector cannot actually survive in a true free market and in fact do not want one. They want a captive market that guarantees a ready flow of cash into their coffers. Tax payers money is increasingly being diverted away from service delivery to private companies. The process was started under New Labour and is continuing under True Tory. The private sector does not have the monopoly on good business practice but it has the advantage of being able to go about its business without incessant interference from the incompetents in the Palace of Westminster.

The total and complete privatisation of ALL spheres of human society is necessary for the creation of new revenue streams...

...new revenue streams are necessary for the profit motive and for capital accumulation...

Folks...all these shrieks of horror are really indicative that you not fully aware of the true nature of capitalism as a social system that demands growth and creates an elite class that only caters to the system...

Of course the police are to be privatised and so is absolutely everything else...

Wrong in so many ways.

Saw one of his 675000 people breezily drive his purple rent-a-paddy-wagon through a pedestrian crossing against a red light earlier today. Not a care in the world about such trivialities as the highway code or the possibility that he could have hit someone. So they seem to have that "above the law" attitude squared away already - maybe that's their primary motivation?

before we know it, all our public services will be in the hands of private companies, with no accountability, costing us whatever they choose to charge, as the contracts are so big and complex, only a few companies will bid , competion will be sparse on the first round, and nonexistant on the second. And any operational savings they might be able to make will go straight back in their pockets, not ours. Privatisation has been the aim of this gvmnt from the start, they are using the deficit/debt as an alibi to finish what they had started under Thatcher. running the public sector is the last niche to make millions, a risk free investment for the Tories and their friends, and we will pay of course

there's no question of outsourcing frontline policing

Oh really? Can you be sure of that?
There is a phenomenon called 'mission creep', I wonder if in 5 years time you will be so confident.

Is this following the same agenda as the privatisation of the NHS - that once marketisation commences, the formerly public service becomes subject to EU competition law and cannot therefore be restored as a public service by future governments?

The so-called "eurosceptic" Tories are aggressively inviting EU law into British society in order to cement their own sick vision of an 18th century state and bind the hands of future British parliaments. This is an aspect of their behaviour that has not been getting the publicity it deserves.

even more of our country stolen from us from a morally wrong piece of shit so-government in a mass looting spree of any asset we have left , like with Jimmy Carr we can suffer his joke's for 3 more years least change the channel can't do the same with "Call me Dave screwing us all there will be f*ck all leaft when them thieves are done RIP UK

"I have always found it somewhere between patronising and insulting the notion that the public sector has the exclusive franchise on some ethos, spirit, morality - it is just nonsense."

Ethos, spirit and morality nonsense? Well, it's true one can't have a franchise on those, exclusive or otherwise; unlike those juicy public sector contracts. Doesn't make them nonsense though, dearey.

"...the thought that everyone in the provate sector is primarily motivated by profit and that is why they come to work is just simply not accurate.."

But surely that's the whole point of tendering these contracts to firms that they might compete for them: the profit motive i.e. greed. I mean not even the most fanatic free-marketeer is going to pretend it's altruism is it? And I'm sorry, but contra you, personal selfishness IS at odds with the ethos, spirit and morality of public service.

Which is what the police ought to be and ought to remain: public servants. Not mercenaries for hire by robber barons.

Britlaw plc- will it be part of G4S?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6CkltzGAxY

'Bought Police' - see what i did there?

"Every care must be taken that our auxiliaries, being stronger than our citizens, may not grow too much for them and become savage beasts". Plato

Come on I must be off premoderation for a Plato quote

I wouldn't like to be prime minister when the privatised police force comes under scrutiny for any future prisoner deaths, like when G4$ staff killed an asylum seeker whilst trying to deport him, apparently using reasonable force...