'Megabloom' of tiny plants under Arctic sea ice tied to climate change

Kathryn Hansen / NASA

Arctic melt ponds visited during a July 2011 expedition on the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Healy gave scientists a chance to find "windows from the sky to the ocean" that are perfect for phytoplankton blooms.

Experts were shocked to find a thick, 60-mile-long "phytoplankton megabloom" under Arctic sea ice, announcing in a study Thursday that ice made thinner by warming temperatures has, for now at least, created ideal conditions for the microscopic, single-cell plants to flourish.

More blooms are likely hidden under the ice, making for "ecological shifts" in Arctic waters that favor some species over others since phytoplankton are the base of the marine food chain, Stanford professor and lead researcher Kevin Arrigo told msnbc.com.

Scientists had thought Arctic phytoplankton blooms only happened after sea ice melted in summer, so the discovery is "like finding the Amazon rainforest in the middle of the Mojave Desert," added Paula Bontempi, who manages the ocean biology program at NASA, which funded the research.


"The waters literally looked like pea soup," Arrigo said at a press conference announcing the study in the journal Science. "It was as thick as a 5-year-old child is tall."

The team discovered the bloom in July 2011 in thin sea ice pocketed with ponds of melted ice on the Chukchi Sea off northern Alaska. Arctic sea ice has been shrinking and thinning in summer since 1979, the result of warming temperatures over the region. 

Those melt ponds proved crucial, allowing just enough light to get the growth process started while also protecting the algae from ultraviolet radiation.

"They were the windows from the sky to the ocean," said researcher Don Perovic, an ice scientist with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

"If I were a phytoplankton," Perovic added, "that's where I'd want to live."

Arrigo said in his 25 years of studying phytoplankton blooms he had never seen one this large. Blooms in open water are much smaller, he noted, while very thick ice won't allow any light in to start photosynthesis.

"It's going to be a more productive system," Arrigo said, noting that plankton bottom feeders will benefit as the plankton sinks to the bottom of the Chukchi, much of which is around 160 feet deep.

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The researchers didn't expect Arctic sea ice to disappear completely, since winters are still very cold, but they did note some potential downsides.

Some fish species that rely on mid-level nutrients will suffer, Arrigo said, and the bigger issue is that a warming Arctic appears to be triggering phytoplankton blooms earlier.

Species that can't adapt "to be there at the right time of year" will suffer, Arrigo said.

NASA funded the expedition as a way to match the satellite-based data it gathers on the Arctic with data gathered on the ice.

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I am not a religious person, but I think one day soon, the oceans will get a massive toxic bloom from our pollution killing everything, then we will all die.

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Reply#1 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

Thanks for telling us you don't go to a synagogue every week, but what does that have to do with anything in this story?

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#1.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:06 AM EDT

mojo you are quite sarcastic......

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i like that

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#1.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

Global warming is still a myth. It always will be.

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#1.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

zipperthecat I agree. The one thing I am wondering is what my Grandchildren will grow up into. Our lifestyle is changing so much since the last 70 years and I don't really think the planet is growing with us. I wonder what the next planet we inhabit lifespan will be??

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#1.4 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

zipperthecat- I couldn't agree more. And, for those naysayers and sarcastic statements; those who reject global warming, or ignore one's right to express themselves in their own way? Take heed.

Much of the warming it is related to the natural progression of things, but humankind has damaged this planet to the 'nth degree' and there's no way to recoup what has been lost.

I lived in Alaska for several decades. from the '70's to the 90's, and glaciers that were once there are gone forever and it only took one decade for that process to occur. Herds of Arctic animals are either diseased or ill; some of the disease never seen before. Unless we cease polluting and putrifying the waters, we are doomed.

Food for thought!

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#1.5 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

If I were a phytoplankton," Perovic added, "that's where I'd want to live

As this article is published, I am sure that the oil companies are finding ways to drill over there. They probaly are sending scouts already to find out if there is oil in the vecinity.

They have the honor of turning anything that lives into waste.

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#1.6 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

Keep believing that, Mark! And to prove your commitment to your belief, put all of your $$ into oceanfront property.

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#1.7 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:20 AM EDT

Zipper ol buddy; I hope that what I am about to say doesn,t make you do anything rash but we are all going to die. I check my birth certificate and I could not find a Guarantee.

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#1.8 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

I hope that Al Gore gets another $1M for being a BS'er and maybe when all this natural environmental shift is over , and we have been dead for like a million years, they'll expose the "pollution" nuts for what they are ..."sky is falling-ers!"

    #1.9 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

    zipperthecat "I am not a religious person, but I think one day soon, the oceans will get a massive toxic bloom from our pollution killing everything, then we will all die."

    The end of the World is near - just ask Al Gore.

      #1.10 - Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:19 PM EDT
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      I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied. Learn to swim. Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be. Learn to swim!

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      Reply#2 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

      Awesome song.

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      #2.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

      I jammed it all the way to work today!

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      #2.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

      I have been listening to Undertow all week, had that one in about a month ago.

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      #2.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

      I had to go phishing after listening to you two! I caught this. I was in the Everglades at the time.

      Awesome!!

      I was Phishing in The Big Cyprus 1999-2000, as well. Bad To The Bone, Wilson. Thanks for the turn to better thoughts of better times!

      FR surfing your way, deepSEA!

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      #2.4 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:36 PM EDT
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      I can't wait for the deniers to begin posting their ignorant rants about this article. After all, they're convinced that 97% of climatologists around the world don't know anything about global warming.

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      Reply#3 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 8:04 PM EDT

      "near" reacord levels.

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      #3.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

      So JackBNibmle1

      Are you saying an increase in the base of the artic food chain is a bad thing?

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      #3.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

      They don't.

        #3.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

        Hey, Mark Taft - what is your evidence for your stupid, idiotic statements about the science? Global warming is a proven scientific fact; you and the other naysayers have to come up with the evidence that it's not. The evidence that it exists is overwhelming, and the evidence that it's at least partially caused by human beings is extremely strong.

        So, Mr. Taft - instead of idiotic statements, try providing me with some proof that "global warming is a myth" and that climate scientists don't know what they're talking about. If you can't do so, please shut the hell up.

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        #3.4 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

        An increase in the base of the Arctic food chain could trigger a big mess. It's like if the river near your city has an algal bloom and turns green for weeks on end. The existing ecosystem will be over, since the boom/bust cycles of algal blooms will deplete oxygen from the water and stress everything that needs more than a minimum amount of oxygen (O2) to live.

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        #3.5 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

        Jack...and the other 3% are paid off by vested interests who don't want limits on the things that are causing Global Warming.

        And Mark the biggest fable I know is that you have a penis or a brain.

          #3.6 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

          Mark, do your research. Ever heard of APCO Worldwide, TASSC(The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition), Exxon, Phillip Morris? APCO is a marketing firm specializing in the art of doubt. Hired by Phillip Morris to combat the negative image of tobacco. APCO wrote mission statements and helped start several "grassroots" organizations on behalf of Phillip Morris. Using this tactic, Phillip Morris could funnel money into a disinformation campaign casting doubt on whether tobacco is bad. One of the "grassroots" groups APCO started is TASSC. In addition to money from Phillip Morris, APCO encouraged all its pseudo-organizations to "seek other sources of funding".

          TASSC did. If found another partner in Exxon, and several oil companies. Their product, doubt that the science behind AGW(anthropogenic(thats manmade) global warming), is not conclusive. In almost every source on the web or in literature, that tries to dispute AGW, the source of research or funding is tied in some way to these quasi-science groups, these false "grassroots" organizations. TASSC being the predominant player. Once false data is on one website, it gets copied and cited to others, many source back eventually to junkscience.com, a TASSC(among others) funded site. All of this info is public data, a few simple web searches shows how verifiable this is.

          A 2010 study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences -- the official publication of the United States National Academy of Sciences -- found that out of 1,372 climate researchers under review, approximately 97 to 98 percent of those actively publishing in the field said they believe human beings are causing climate change, which they term anthropogenic (i.e., man-made) climate change. It also concluded that "the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence" of the researchers unconvinced of man-made climate change are "substantially below that of the convinced researchers."

          An earlier survey published in the 2009 issue of Eos -- a publication of the American Geophysical Union -- asked scientists from a wide range of disciplines (approximately 3,146): "Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" Approximately 82 percent of the surveyed scientists answered yes to this question. Of those climate change specialists surveyed, 97.4 percent answered yes.

          Excluding armchair climatologists, only including people, scientists, that actually know what they are talking about. There is more than consensus AGW is real.

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          #3.7 - Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:48 AM EDT
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          I, for one, welcome our new planktonic overlords!

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          Reply#4 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 12:33 AM EDT

          AHAHAHA!! that was awesome.

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          #4.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
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          I accept the science of humans changing the atmospheric chemical composition through globalized industrialization. Much to my frustration and concern for future generations, the political reality is that there are so many ignorant Americans (some by choice, some by circumstance) it will take many years of violent and powerful weather, unusually hot summers, drought, and increasingly acidic oceans before today's ignorant are dead and more informed voters decide to take action. The problem is that so much more pollution will have been added to the atmosphere by then that the train of climate change will have already left the station and the seas will inevitably rise. What I don't understand is that we buy insurance for our lives, homes, autos, and other valuables but we don't place a value on our planet by paying for insurance just in case the science is correct.

          For those of us who don’t like to be ignorant about the science of altering the atmosphere's chemistry, I suggest the following books with a brief quote from each:

          1. A Green History of the World, Clive Ponting, 1991 – “The net result of these human activities is the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has risen by a third in the last two hundred years – from about 270 parts per million in 1750 to 350 parts per million in the late 1980s. About half of this increase has occurred since the 1950s – carbon dioxide emissions rose from 1.6 billion tons a year in 1950 to 5.4 billion tons in the mid-1980s. Global use of fossil fuels is rising at about 4 per cent a year (which means a doubling every sixteen years) and carbon dioxide is increasing in the atmosphere at about .5 per cent a year. Carbon dioxide has provided by far the greatest volume of greenhouse gas emissions and contributed about two-thirds of the total warming effect so far.” [page 388]
          2. The Little Ice Age, Brian Fagan, 2000 – “The Little Ice Age reminds us that climate change is inevitable, unpredictable, and sometimes vicious. The future promises exactly the same kinds of violent change on a local and global scale. If the present, unusually prolonged high mode of the North Atlantic Oscillation is indeed due to anthropogenic forcing, then we must also assume that global warming will accentuate the natural cycles of global climate on the largest and smallest scales. Some of these potential cycles of change are frightening to contemplate in an overpopulated and heavily industrialized world.” [page 214] “Over a century ago, Victorian biologist Thomas Huxley urged us to be ‘humble before the facts’. The facts stare us in the face, yet we do not display sufficient humility. The vicissitudes of the Little Ice Age remind us of our vulnerability again and again. In a new climatic era, we would be wise to learn from the climatic lessons of history.” [page 217]
          3. The Long Summer, Brian Fagan, 2004 – “Short-term climatic events like droughts do not often leave a clear footprint. But the droughts of the Medieval Warm Period (or Medieval Climatic Anomaly, as it is often called) left giant tracks across the American west, wrought in deep-sea cores, pollen samples, tree rings, and ice cores from high in the Andes. From the California coast to the Maya lowlands to Lake Titicaca, five centuries of sudden aridity wrought havoc on human societies already living close to the environmental edge.” [pages 214-215]
          4. The Weather Makers, Timothy Flannery, 2005 – “The concentration of C02 in the atmosphere in times past can be measured from bubbles of air preserved in ice. By drilling about two miles into the Antarctic ice cap, scientists have drawn out an ice core that spans almost a million years of Earth history. This unique record demonstrates that during cold times CO2 levels have dropped to around 160 parts per million, and until recently they never exceeded 280 parts per million. The Industrial Revolution changed that, albeit slowly, for even by 1958, when Keeling began his measurements of CO2 atop Mauna Loa, it was up to only 315 parts per million.” [page 29] “Today the figures are 380 parts per million….” [page 28]
          5. Collapse, Jared Diamond, 2005 – “…the atmosphere really has been undergoing an unusually rapid rise in temperature recently and that human activities are the or a major cause. The remaining uncertainties mainly concern the future expected magnitude of the effect: e.g., whether average global temperatures will increase by ‘just’ 1.5 degrees Centigrade or by 5 degrees Centigrade over the next century. Those numbers may not sound like a big deal, until one reflects that average global temperatures were ‘only’ 5 degrees cooler at the height of the last Ice Age.” [page 493]
          6. The Revenge of Gaia, James Lovelock, 2006 – “Predictions of climate change do not depend only on theoretical models in the form of computer simulations of the Earth. There is now a vast array of monitoring activities sustained globally. Air and sea temperatures are continuously measured, as are the gases of the atmosphere, the cloud cover, the floating ice and the glaciers and the health of the ecosystems in the ocean and on the land. The truth of the models is therefore continuously tested against the observations coming in from the real world.” [page 57]
          7. Dead Pool, James Lawrence Powell, 2008 – “The question is not whether the earth has warmed, but why? The scientific consensus is that the cause is the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, which absorb heat and trap it near the earth. In one of the most prescient predictions in science, in 1896 … Swedish chemist Svante Arrhenius predicted the very rise that we now observe. Based on the knowledge that carbon dioxide molecules trap heat, Arrhenius calculated that if atmospheric carbon dioxide level were to double, global temperatures would rise between 7 and 11 degrees F. More than a century later with vastly more information, IPCC forecasts that by 2100, temperatures will rise between 2.5 and 10.5 degrees F, overlapping the range the Swedish chemist forecast long ago. Arrhenius thought it might take three thousand years for carbon dioxide levels to double, but sadly that is one forecast that he got wrong.” [pages 171-2]
          8. The Flooded Earth, Peter Ward, 2010 – “Our planet did not break out of the 180-280 ppm range until about 1800, when carbon dioxide levels began to rise well beyond the old upper limit. By 1900, the level was 295 ppm…. From 1900 to 2000, CO2 levels went from 295 all the way up the current level of about 385 – a 90 ppm rise in just a hundred years. The rate at which carbon dioxide is increasing…is accelerating. Models using the latest values of the measured rise for the past decade, and projecting forward, lead to an estimate that CO2 levels will nearly double in the next two centuries. That is the level of the Mesozoic Period and will cause the ice sheets to rapidly melt – all of them.” [pages 56-7]

          I make these suggestions to help frame the science behind the issues associated with human-caused changes in the chemical composition of the atmosphere. Many people seem ignorant of the science behind climate analysis and content to put their heads deeply into the sand. The defining characteristic of humanity, complex intelligence, is enhanced by a broad liberal education. Thomas Jefferson had this to say about higher education including science: “the university [of Virginia] would be ‘now qualified to raise its youth to an order of science unequalled in any other state; and this superiority will be greater from the free range of mind encouraged there, and the restraint imposed at other seminaries by the shackles of a domineering hierarchy and a bigoted adhesion to ancient habits.’” [from Thomas Jefferson, Willard Sterne Randall, 1993, page 588]

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          Reply#5 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:32 AM EDT

          ZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzzz. too long.

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          #5.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

          The thing that concerns me the most is that , though the article mentions the bloom , the problem of the reduction in the O2 level in the area is not addressed. Sure, some organisms will have a field day with eating the growth, but, what is the current dynamic for O)2 exchange as a whole in the Artic ocean? We could have a die off, like the one that occurs in the Gulf coast , due to the enrichement of the water via the Mississippi from runoff... What species, larger species, will this effect? This could be a very bad situation for a delicate food chain..

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          #5.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

          Nice list, Mike, I'm sure the knownothings will be offended by it, along with the ADD dudes like nobody.

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          #5.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

          I simply don't understand how people still don't comprehend the carbon cycle. It is easy for the deniers to accept that volcanic eruptions can change the global temperature, but not humans. In 1 year, volcanoes on earth release ~300,000,000 tons of carbon into the atmosphere. In 1 year, via fossil fuels and deforestation, human release ~8,000,000,000 tons of carbon. Essentially, every year releasing 24 years worth of volcanic eruptions(a conservative figure), and the number is climbing. The last time in geologic history that this many "volcanoes"(albeit in our case artificial ones) erupted, we have extinction of 80%-90% of earth's species. I just don't see how people don't get this.

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          #5.4 - Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:53 AM EDT
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          Here we go to put their false B.S. about man made Global Warming. It's a natural environmental happening. Mother Nature knows how to keep herself clean. So all you globalist can take your tax want to be and stick it

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          Reply#6 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

          And pollution has NO EFFECT on the earth?

          Get your head out your ...

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          #6.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

          It's a natural environmental happening. Mother Nature knows how to keep herself clean.

          It sure does! Wait until hurricane season gets going. Scientis are predicitng at least one Category 5 hurricane this time around. Hopefully that will "clean" out your neigborhood.

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          #6.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

          I agree, mother nature does know how to keep herself clean, killing off the human race is probably her next defensive action.

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          #6.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:10 PM EDT
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          There goes those evil,lying liberal,socialist,marxist,communist scientists with their global warming lies! My pastor told me the earth is 6000 years old and we are eagerly waiting for the Rapture! Science is all lies and all scientists are followers of satan!

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          Reply#7 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

          Science is all lies and all scientists are followers of satan!

          This is why the United States is turning into a third world country folks! Expect more of this rhetoric indoctrinated by the GOP, to keep turning this country into a gigantic cesspool by taking all the natural resources: timber and other things that will leave a "heaven"of a place for all of you.

          Take a class into what Energy and science is, and stop posting these comments. It's embarrasing, because people all over the world reads them.

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          #7.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

          Tony, you got it about the Rapture. Can I have your car after the Rapture?

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          #7.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:51 PM EDT
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          My pastor knows so much more then any scientist! He also talks to Jesus one on one! Science is evil! The work of the devil!

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          Reply#8 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

          Global warming is actually the residual fires of Hell where all Liberals go! That's what my pastor told me! I believe everything he says!

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          Reply#9 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

          Really Tony...Your pastor needs to go back to Elementary school and finish 5th grade.

          If you are only writing sarcasm, PLEASE, pretty please, write that at the end of your comments. Many people are voting for your comments, and it is a scary thing to think that they actually BELIEVE them.

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          #9.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

          It is quite obvious he is being sarcastic. THose who cannot tell probably don't even know what the term means.

          But you are correct any touch of subtlety is lost on the brainless neocons

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          #9.2 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:26 PM EDT
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          TONYWARVET: Cite passage in the Bible that says the EARTH is only 6000 years old..

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          Reply#10 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

          I'm hoping Tony is only joking. I'm fearing he is serious.

            #10.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

            lol i like tony. he's funny. ^_^

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            #10.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:55 AM EDT

            tony is definitely joking. you can tell because he spelled everything correctly

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            #10.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM EDT

            suppose it's too much to hope that these plankton guys will produce lotsa O2 and suck up the C)2

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            #10.4 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:26 AM EDT

            Thanks for the levity, Tony. You left out the part about the nice oil companies providing us with unbiased information about the myth of global warming, though.

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            #10.5 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

            Hallelujah, Tony.

            All we can do is laugh til we die!!

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            #10.6 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

            I taught Tony everything he knows!

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            #10.7 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

            Leatherneck:

            Cite one passage in the Bible that is known to be factual, using a reference other than the Bible. We'll wait.

              #10.8 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 11:34 PM EDT
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              Unfortunately most people do not realize that heat is a catalyst for accelerating chemical and biological reactions. I fear that as the planet warms concentrations of toxins and the events they affect will progress at an ever increasing rate and we will start to see it causing extinction level events among many of the earths species. The trickle down effect will impact the food chain of the organisms dependent on them and cause a further reduction in plant and animal life on a global scale that can not turn to an alternate food supply. We are already beginning to see a shift in where particular foods can be grown as some regions become to hot while other regions become more environmentally friendly to food production. The problem with this is while weather conditions improve to support crop growth in some areas the soil may not contain the correct bio matter to produce the nutrients necessary to sustain crop growth in necessary quantities. This could lead to more expensive food costs due to the necessity to recondition the soil. If this trend continues we may areas of agriculture as well as seafood stocks shrinking at alarming rates impacting the over all availability of our food supply around the world with in the next 50 to 100 years. These conditions are already happening in areas such as Ethiopia, India, and Africa.

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              Reply#11 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

              O_o are you posting this more than once??

                #11.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:58 AM EDT
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                You need to get an education, you idiots !

                Of course global warming is man made ! Who are you to claim that it is not ?? Are you scientists ? I would guess not, with such low intellects !

                Try going into a room and blow up smoke until you no longer see the light bulb..let me know how it feels. Pollution block the sun light, and earth warms up.. what about that is so difficult to understand ?? You people are truely stupid !

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                Reply#12 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

                poodlefan007

                Unfortunately most people do not realize that heat is a catalyst for accelerating chemical and biological reactions. I fear that as the planet warms concentrations of toxins and the events they affect will progress at an ever increasing rate and we will start to see it causing extinction level events among many of the earths species.

                Toxins is referring to pollutants introduced by man that are impacting the environment as well as causing global warming. I am completely in agreement that these issues are caused by man.

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                #12.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

                Try going into a room and blow up smoke until you no longer see the light bulb

                does a hookah count?

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                #12.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

                An electric bong sounds more efficient.

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                #12.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

                lol!

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                #12.4 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

                Not that I would know, it is just that I have heard about such things when I go into the big city.

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                #12.5 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

                ;) gotcha.

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                #12.6 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

                Earth bong sounds better, puts the carbon from the smoke directly back into the soil.

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                #12.7 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                A wind turbine driven vaporizer, then brownies.

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                #12.8 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

                notsojingo, it is good to see your posts, and know you care about our Mother still. Hope all is well.

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                #12.9 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                If I was going to use a bong, I would not use an electric one...I would use one powered by solar or even better wind energy.

                There must be enough wind when they suckdown on those things. (From what I saw from one of my college roomette---the dopehead that I was living with for 2 weeks.

                (FYI I don't do drugs or smoke or drink)

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                #12.10 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:29 PM EDT
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                Also, the sun used to be yellow, it is now white ! WE humans are responsable for global warming and no one or nothing else ! What don't you understand ?? Every day millions of tons of CO2 are rejected into our atmosphere, and you do not question the effects of all this pollution? and you think humans are not responsable for the consequences ?? You are truely idiots !

                The best you can do is shut it up !

                  Reply#13 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

                  The sun has always been white since it hit the phase of nuclear fusion it is currently at, it hasn't changed substantially in the last billion years and won't for at least the next billion to come, regardless of what we are doing here.

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                  #13.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

                  humans are responsible...humans and cows. don't forget the cows

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                  #13.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

                  Your last idea was you best.

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                  #13.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

                  i'd suggest poodle to chill, but that's probably not apropos when global warming is the topic, she didn't seem to get that the global warming deniers avoid actual science news articles (they jump in when global warming is a political story). she may have a point if the haze in the air from humidity and particulates fade the apparent color of the sun

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                  #13.4 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:39 AM EDT

                  You can never forget the cows...THose Republican woman sure can Moo

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                  #13.5 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:29 PM EDT
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                  I am from the state of not so sky blue waters and I know what green crap does to the ecosystem and all life that depends on it. Do we want whales coming down with Swimmers Itch? I think not. Woe is us.

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                  Reply#14 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

                  did you know i had to look up swimmers itch? tsk tsk. poor little city girl

                    #14.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

                    stonepipe, i grew up there when the waters really were sky blue (really, deep blue) and I remember the Hamms beer commercial song. never had swimmers itch but have heard about it

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                    #14.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

                    Good afternoon, nobodysfool and SRM. Am sad to report a lot of the lakes are now green and you are lucky to see past your ankles. When traveling a lot of lakes have signs up saying "Beach Closed, Swimmers Itch" and it's a darn shame. This is the first time I have read about it in the ice, one more thing to give me gray hair I guess-on the plus side I still have hair.

                    • 4 votes
                    #14.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                    on the plus side I still have hair.

                    LMAO!

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                    #14.4 - Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:38 AM EDT
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                    Methane is 10 times the greenhouse gas that CO2 is...The permafrost is melting and scientists just recently are shocked at the amount of methane that is escaping as this happens. It blows huge holes in all the predictive models. Methane that has been trapped under frozen ground since the dinosaurs roamed the land is billowing out into the air people. I agree with the learn to swim theory, just not sure how I will survive the 1000 foot tsunami when the WAIC breaks lose all at once, which will probably sweep all the ice off of Greenland in a single day (or the other way around, take you pick). Yes mother nature has a way of cleansing herself in ways that reverse the problems (us being the problem that will be gone in an instant of geologic time).

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#15 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

                    Yes mother nature has a way of cleansing herself

                    like "the day after tomorrow" status?

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                    #15.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:16 AM EDT
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                    I've got an idea!!!!!

                    Let's use 100 years of flawed climate data that we manipulate to suit our political agenda to raise a panic about "climate change" on a planet that is 3,000,000,000 years old as a minimum.

                    It will be brilliant! We can claim every year is , "THE WORST YEAR EVER!!!!!" AND GET THIS!! We can do it every year because we have no idea how bad the weather was 10,000 years ago, hell we don't know for sure how cold it got 400 years ago.

                    Best of all, we can demand everyone on earth subjugate themselves to us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we can call ourselves, "The Climate Lords" and make them beg us for permission to feed themselves or heat their homes. Wouldn't that be awesome?

                    We can claim we know everything beyond a shadow of a doubt and with no proof otherwise we can attack people who claim we are wrong.

                    We just have to remember to NEVER tell anyone, that the climate always changes! Heck, the earth was covered with a mile thick sheet of ice just 10,000 years ago, global warming probably ruined that as well.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#16 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                    go away paid my fee. you don't really want to learn any science.

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                    #16.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:44 AM EDT

                    We know exactly what the weather was like for the last 110,000 years...

                    link to this...

                    What I find most interesting is that the bottom of the ice on Greenland is only 110,000 years old, when sea levels were several hundred feet higher than they are today, on a planet that is 5,000,000,000 years old...

                    • 2 votes
                    #16.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                    we know stuff about the 1600's too:

                    #1600-1800: Land abandonment in southeast Scotland (and a lot of other very detailed info about other places)

                    (if the link fails, it's climate4you(dot)com

                    • 1 vote
                    #16.3 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                    Sure, the climate always changes. This is just the first time in it's history that it's preventable. So paidmyfee (you really haven't, you just think you paid), PLEASE GIVE UP ON SCIENCE. You and every one of your ilk, toss out those medications, drink that unpasturized milk and have your children stare at the sun. Go to a tall building and challenge the Law of Gravity. Experiment with F=MA usiong your car and various objects. Since Evolution violates Thermodynamics, so should setting your hair on fire! Go for it!

                    This scientist says its all in - want to deny science? Maybe you should be DENIED science then. See ya next time you would like power, light, food, or medication.

                    • 1 vote
                    #16.4 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 11:46 PM EDT
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                    Arctic sea ice has been shrinking and thinning in summer since 1979, the result of warming temperatures over the region.

                    Which was at the end of a natural 30 year cooling cycle. As Earth went into the warming half of this natural 60 year cycle it only makes sense that ice would decrease. I happen to remember well the hype in the 1970s about the "next ice age" and 'global cooling" because the media and many scientists went bonkers toward the end of the 30 years cooling period. Then as the 30 years of warming started the media and many scientists again went bonkers over "global warming".

                    Arctic sea ice has been recovering since 2007. Last Fall Arctic sea ice refroze 40% faster than normal. This year Bering Sea ice was up 25-35%. This summer Arctic deep sea drilling will be delayed 2 at least 2 weeks because there is more ice than normal.

                    All of this points to the fact that the Earth is again entering the natural cooling cycle.

                    People worried over warming but this Spring (regardless of what NOAA says) it has been cold weather that has hurt crops like apples in Ontario, blueberries in Maine and bananas in the tropics.

                    And during the cooling decades of the 50s, 60s and 70s there were more violent tornadoes than in the last 30 warming years. And tropical cyclone numbers also trended downward during the last 30 warming years.

                    Natural warming is nothing compared to natural cooling. Of course I'm sure the media and the grant sucking scientists will switch gears again and this time blame the cooling on man just like they blamed the warming.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#17 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:56 AM EDT

                    I always expect global warming articles to bring the anti-science delusional conservatives out of the woodwork to display their world class ignorance. Thanks for meeting expectations.

                    • 9 votes
                    #17.1 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

                    You don't remember so well. The "hype" in the 70's was confined to a few speculative articles in popular science magazines. So poof goes your theory.

                    anytime you see "regardless of what the world best weather agency says...." look for blowing smoke. Thanks for the laugh, killer.

                    • 1 vote
                    #17.2 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 11:52 PM EDT
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                    Does Al Gore eat plankton?

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#18 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                    And may as well give him another Nobel.

                      Reply#19 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

                      A couple of Blue Whales passing through or a nice school of Cod could clean all this up, and probably enjoy it while they do.

                        Reply#20 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                        Mark

                        You need to quit watching FOX. Global warming is real and it is in part man made. If you doubt that, try reading and learning. Not listening to FOX propaganda. I have actually talked to the scientists and know them personally, my late husband was a scientist and so I have the privelege of knowing these very good people. The only controversy is the one created by FOX and other idiot news (I use the term jokingly) people.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#21 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 4:10 PM EDT
                        • 1 vote
                        #21.1 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:33 PM EDT
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                        It's not global warming. It is global weirding. It is more than likely caused by something some scientists did. I know it wasn't caused by politicians, on account we've got lots of proof that they don't do anything.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#22 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

                        Regardless of who or what did it- how far inland and how high do we have to be for say the next 100 years to be safe?

                          Reply#23 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

                          Should only lose Miami, New York, Houston, etc in that time frame. Low estimates are 10ish feet of rise in 50-100 years, high estimates are speculative. If you melt all the ice on land, its going be a lot more than that, 10x more than that.

                          • 1 vote
                          #23.1 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

                          If all the ice on the planet melted the seas would rise 215 feet.

                            #23.2 - Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
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                            Scientists had thought Arctic phytoplankton blooms only happened after sea ice melted in summer, so the discovery is "like finding the Amazon rainforest in the middle of the Mojave Desert," added Paula Bontempi, who manages the ocean biology program at NASA, which funded the research.

                            Scientist's, who think they know so much, yet know so little. God bless them

                              Reply#24 - Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

                              Religious Folks - Guided by stone age pamphleteers and superstiton for over 5000 years running - the greatest bane humanity has ever known!

                              Hey, where is that Jesus dude? He said he was coming back in a human lifetime, right? Glad scientists are in charge of keeping time!

                              Oh, ya, lets thank them for that germ theory of disease. Because without science, your priest would need to pray over your deamon-caused cancer.

                              • 1 vote
                              #24.1 - Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:00 AM EDT
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                              Climate changes, species changes and life style changes will continue to the end of time. As a species on this great planet we still do not have a clue what is going on, we do have a lot of documentation on what has been going on the last 150 years, but that's not even a blink compare to the age of this planet. If we are making the changes or the earth makes its own changes. Is the human race making changes now, for sure we are. We evolving at a very fast pace in technology. Is this making us better or the planet better? I would say No. When my grandmother passed away in 2001 at age 91 she was concerned what would people do if they had to revert to living off the land and we lost all of these nice conveniences we have now. Rural areas would probably survive, but a lot of people in Metro areas would be chaos. Just take note of what is happening is it us or just the planet earth making its own changes. I would say us and planet earth will make her own changes to compensate for what we are doing.

                                Reply#25 - Sat Jun 9, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

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                                  #25.1 - Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:44 AM EDT
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