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Voters pass half-cent sales tax renewal for Jefferson Parish public schools

Published: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 10:00 PM     Updated: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 10:10 PM

Voters in Jefferson Parish on Saturday passed the renewal of a half-cent sales tax for public schools with a tally of 11,337 votes for it and 5,036 against it.

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"The message is 'We like what we see, but don't stop now,'" said Jefferson Parish School Board President Michael Delesdernier, adding that he believes efforts of a newly elected board to save money on insurance helped overcome other recent turmoil in the school system. "No one expected this to be an easy transformation. The board is addressing the issues that need to be worked on. So far so good, but don't let us down."

The tax generates $37 million a year for schools, providing about 9 percent of the Jefferson school system's budget. It pays for the in-school suspension program, teacher and support worker salaries, salaries for elementary school social workers and counselors, textbook updates, other instructional materials and debt repayment on capital projects and maintenance.

Voters first approved the tax in 1993. They renewed it a decade later. The latest term for the tax expires at the end of 2012, but will now extend another 10 years.

The renewal won the endorsements of the Jefferson Federation of Teachers, Jefferson Business Council, Jefferson Chamber of Commerce Political Action Committee and Homebuilders Association of Greater New Orleans.

The torpedoing of a package of new taxes and tax renewals in Kenner almost a month ago put public education officials on edge, wondering whether this proposition would face a similar fate even though no tax increases are involved.

The school system faces tight financial times regardless of the status of the half-cent tax, with Superintendent Diane Roussel issuing a warning of possible layoffs amid expected shortfalls of $10 million to $24 million in the budget for 2011-12, which the School Board could consider in the next month or two. It is potentially the second consecutive year of layoffs in the school system.

Saturday's ballot also included tax renewals for Jefferson Parish juvenile services, flood-control projects, animal shelters and the Grand Isle Fire Department, which also passed.


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bubbawho April 30, 2011 at 11:28PM

Well now it's confirmed. Most of the people in JP just don't give a S$*#.
They deserve what ever the politicians give them!

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bugmenot May 01, 2011 at 12:08AM

Exactly, and it's really sad. Time to move.

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bulchips May 01, 2011 at 6:59AM

This is an outrage that the voters approved the renewal of this tax. I am sure the Board is already planning, especially the resident of Tangipahoa Parish, what trips they will take at taxpayers expense in the next 12 months. Tax renewals and tax approvals should only be allowed on the ballot for general elections. No one knew that this tax was on the ballot and that is the way the politicians wanted it. No advertisement, no controversy, no oppositions and this way those who benefit from the tax go and get it passed. However, Jeffersonians that is no excuse. After all the scandals and corruption in the parish, all of you should be aware as to what the politicians are up to. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

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SistaSally3 May 01, 2011 at 9:46AM

"The message is 'We like what we see, but don't stop now,'" said Jefferson Parish School Board President Michael Delesdernier, adding that he believes efforts of a newly elected board to save money on insurance helped overcome other recent turmoil in the school system. "No one expected this to be an easy transformation. The board is addressing the issues that need to be worked on. So far so good, but don't let us down."

YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU THINK CITIZENS BELIEVE THAT! PEOPLE VOTED BECAUSE YOU THREATENED TO CUT PROGRAMS FOR KIDS... SHAME ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR MORE WORRYING ABOUT THE TOP HEAVY SALARIES THEN YOU DO ABOUT THE KIDS! SO WHEN IS EVERYTHING GONNA BE WONDERFUL IN THE SCHOOLS. WHEN ARE YOU GONNA PUBLISH THE SALARIES OF EVERYONE? WE KNOW WHAT TEACHERS MAKE, HOW ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE??? SCARED TO TELL? SHAME ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEM!

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gno_teacher May 01, 2011 at 2:54PM

there's really no room for debate here. without this renewal, an already struggling school system would, frankly, have gone under.

is money the answer to all of the problems faced by jppss? no...at least not the only one...

would the loss of this revenue have crippled the system? definitely.

you can't reform a system while you're drowning. we need to approach and solve one problem at a time, not create new ones.

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SistaSally3 May 01, 2011 at 4:30PM

yes, and throwing money at the problem is really not the answer!

The answer is not the teachers, or the grass cutters it's the administration, council members salaries are set by law! They don't even have offices. It is the Chief (the women at the top) that is OVER PAID! She is not leading the system in the right direction, replacing her with another overpaid executive or politician will not fix the problem. Where I want them to start is to shame themselves by publishing salaries, Not the teachers ones, (teachers are on line)! If everyone was doing their job, the system would work, but this is not a real business, it's a government agency that is out of control on so many things from ethics to spending, they need an IG, but no one wants one to come in and show the real budget! The Real Payroll! Cutting teachers and programs are the last things the system should do, but isn't that what is always put on the chopping block, or put out there for show? They love to threaten the public because they know voters are sheep!

Just look even the board puts their kids in Catholic Schools!

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gno_teacher May 01, 2011 at 7:16PM

throwing money at the problem is not the answer, in and of itself. there are, however, many programs and initiatives that would help that we are unable to pursue because there is not enough money.

is some of it tied up in the technology department, salaries of higher-ups, or misguided parish level purchases? yes.

however, if the superintendent, deputy superintendent, and the next 10 highest ranking folks in the top offices all worked for FREE, it would still save the parish less than 2 million dollars (whereas this tax renewal will generate 37 million dollars per year.

furthermore, the idea of them working for free or even for substantially less than they make now, is not realistic. the superintendent's decisions effect 44,000 students. mine, as a teacher, directly impact fewer than 100 in my classroom and fewer than 1,000 at our school. the superintendent position ought to pay more. whether the person in that office is doing the best job possible is a reasonable place for an argument, but whether or not he/she should be paid more than teachers or principals is not, really.

finally, i'd like to point out that, due to the current structure of the JFT negotiated contract (i am union, but dissatisfied with several policies that put adults before children), when you consider how many teachers are out there, much more money is wasted on teacher salaries than on administrator salaries:

(1) teachers can return from retirement and simultaneously collect retirement benefits and a regular salary.
(2) teachers who have been in the classroom for many years make very generous salaries whether or not they teach a thing (the vast majority do, but too many do not), because it is virtually impossible to fire them for ineffective instruction (tenure, onerous review process) and we have only rudimentary tools for actually measuring their efficacy
(*) none of that is to say that teachers, as a whole, shouldn't be paid more - we definitely should - just that some teacher compensation policies in place now are also outrageously wasteful.

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SistaSally3 May 01, 2011 at 11:41PM

you think the superintendent should make more then $280,000.00 per year???????

teachers salaries are set by a contract, office workers are at will employees and can get paid any amount of money! There is no pay structure!

what are misguided parish level purchases?

(1) the retirement has noting to do with teachers it is totally separate. retirees don't get the retirement check from the school board! And there are teachers that do not teach. But you don't sound like a teacher, you sound like a tea bagger with that anti-union bs!

and teachers don't make very generous salaries, i'm sorry i went look at their payscale and was surprised how much money they don't make!!!!!!

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gno_teacher May 02, 2011 at 6:39PM

wow, so much to address.

A.) superintendent salary

read closely, sista sally. i said "the idea of them working for substantially less than they make now is not realistic," not "the superintendent should make more than $280,000."

that being said, there really are circumstances under which it would make sense to pay a high caliber individual that much in order to retain them, because such individuals could make much more in the private market. market price. you get what you pay for. hopefully, we will be able to hire an individual worth that much.

furthermore, you missed the point. the combined salaries of the top 10 folks in central office is less than $2 million. if $37M = ~9% of the budget, then the total budget runs somewhere close to $400M. Cutting all of their salaries in half (~2M ---> ~1M)would reduce spending by less than 0.25%. if you're serious about finding money to bolster schools, you're going to need to look elsewhere.

B.) teacher retirement
how does the return from retirement program have nothing to do with teachers? teachers can "retire," return, and receive both a salary for teaching and retirement benefits as determined by the length of their service. that is double dipping, straight up.

C.) "there are teachers that do not teach, but you don't sound like a teacher you sound like a tea bagger with that anti-union __"

i don't sound like a teacher because i'm calling out that minority (yes, small minority) of teachers who don't do right by their kids!?!...that's absurd.

can you think of anyone who'd be more angry with slacking teachers than a hard-working teacher? imagine pouring your heart and soul into teaching your kids every year, getting them on or above grade level even if they started behind, getting them excited about school and college and the ability to make a better life for themselves by pursuing education. it's amazing. nothing feels better. now imagine checking in with them 2-3 years later and discovering that, due to poor teaching, many of them are once again below grade level and are no longer excited about school. it's excruciating. nothing feels worse. now, next year do the same check-in. hear the same thing. do it again the next year. do it again. keep doing it. keep hearing the same thing. how do you feel about the people hurting the kids you've invested so much in, hurting the kids you love and helped raise?...well?

in the bad old days, the union was created so that teachers (discriminated based on gender) could demand fair salaries and reasonable work conditions. it is still necessary today to protect teachers from pernicious administrators and spurious charges leveled by angry parents and/or students.

it was not intended to make it possible for teachers to keep their jobs whether or not they work or are effective, or to make it possible for teachers to double dip on payment. unfortunately, these things have gotten mixed in...

i am a teacher and proud of it. i am a union member, and i'd like to be more proud of it, but don't question my credentials on either one.

out.

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SistaSally3 May 02, 2011 at 8:45PM

teachers pensions (TRSL) Is a retirement that teachers earn just like the public get in social security. it is not (in any way) a part of the school system, it is a separate plan, not even controlled by the jpss.

they may, as you call it, double dipping, but once the join the drop plan, then retire. they are retired and they are collecting money NOT FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM but a retirement plan they own. not public money! if they go back to work it is because they like teaching kids, not for the money!

I still feel you don't have a grip on how pensions work. and my gut feeling is that you are not a teacher in Jefferson Parish.

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gno_teacher May 02, 2011 at 8:54PM

alright. i don't have a super great grip on the pension system, and you may be correct, though teachers can continue to teach for several years while in drop. point granted there - it sounds right, anyway.

on the others points, the last in particular, where do have you landed?

would you defend tenure? do you think that we appropriately evaluate teachers?

do you still think that slicing salaries at the the top would have an appreciable effect on the school system's budget (or can that one, at least, be laid to rest)?

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SistaSally3 May 02, 2011 at 10:45PM


get those from their retirement plan. so it actually cost less for those teachers and it is not mandatory for the system to rehire any retired teacher!
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on the others points, the last in particular, where do have you landed?
my gut, my belief!
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would you defend tenure? do you think that we appropriately evaluate teachers?

Taking the politics out of it is eliminates the abuse of the management! Can you give me a better system that doesn't allow the abuse of the management???? And I understand this system lets a few bad apples fall in the cracks. But all in all I think most teachers are doing the best they can in Jefferson Parish!

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do you still think that slicing salaries at the top would have an appreciable effect on the school system's budget (or can that one, at least, be laid to rest)?

The board salaries are set by Louisiana Law, just as is the Sheriff, the Council and Parish President, the Clerk, The DA, The Assessor, The Coroner, the Governor, but not the office staff at the school board, it depends on who your sponsor was or who your sponsor is.
The board doesn't even have offices. More then doubling the superintendent salary is not right, and we have no idea what any other employee earns, (except teachers which are on line)!

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Now personally I don't think teaches make a great salary! I think they are under paid. But they choose to go work for the government, which does not pay the same as private industry. Catholic schools pay more, but the priest can come in at any point and fire anyone. (Without cause). So if you choose to work for them you get what you get! Public employees in most instances get paid way less then they would receive in private industry, And most public employees are NOT covered by unions or even Civil Service. This leaves their lives at the whim of elected officials! I wish they had more Public unions! God know we need them!

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SistaSally3 May 02, 2011 at 10:55PM

somewhere i loss part of my reply....

alright. i don't have a super great grip on the pension system, and you may be correct, though teachers can continue to teach for several years while in drop. point granted there - it sounds right, anyway.

Teachers that retire collect their pensions, they own them it is run by a board in the state. School Boards CAN hire back teachers under contracts for 10 months, and they are not required to. these teachers come back and don't get benefits because they are getting them with their pension. It is up to the school system to hire them or not to. And I believe that teachers with experience in most cases or better then new teachers!
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on the others points, the last in particular, where do have you landed? get those from their retirement plan. so it actually cost less for those teachers and it is not mandatory for the system to rehire any retired teacher! So it actually cost less to rehire those teachers...
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SistaSally3 May 02, 2011 at 11:39PM

You may want to review what is requirred for a teacher to return to work... see the booklet
"Returning to Work after Retirement"

http://www.trsl.org/main/inside.php?section=my_trsl&page=brochures

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