OPINION

As an observation,

"Who among us makes the decision as to which grievance is legitimate enough to kill others over."

Truthfully,

Chiefs, Lords, Kings, Emperors, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Despots and Madmen have made those decisions since the beginning of mankind.

None of this would have happened if the IRS enforced the tax laws as they are written. Unfortunately they don't, and everyone in congress knows this but not a one has the courage to speak up. They know if they do the others, or enough of them will have charges raised against the one of courage. They will then be tried and convicted and spend a few years in prison.

Those of no courage include the two Texas Senators and all of the representatives from Texas. I even have a letter from one saying he does not chose to become involved with anything where the IRS is concerned.

Congress likes this theft, even though it actually lessens the amount that the government ggets in revenue.

Weston: You are pathetic to claim " None of thei would of happened if the IRS enforece the tax laws as the are written." I resent being over-taxed and the gov wasting most of it, but to act as though this selfish and immature non-man had a right to try to wrack up a body count of strangers (of anyone) because of his tax problems is assinine. The guy couldn't pay a $6000 tax bill but had a private plane? Please. And he didn't file returns some years and this is other people's fault? Talk about victimization, blame and not taking responsiblility for your own life. This "man" had the goal to be self-employed and wealthy and it didn't work out for him, but not all buisnesses make it-very few actually do. You condone this idiot's selfish act by making excuses for him-and that is inexcusable.

Ronald I would be careful with how you speek. You are a 78 Yo and the death panel may get you for speeking out of turn. Your senators know better.

I too condemn Joe Stack's cowardly attack on the IRS Building as well!!
It was a very cowardly thing to do!!
Now if he wanted to be a hero,all he had to do was crash his plane into the Faux Snooze HQ instead!!!

The most disgusting thing I have heard in a long time was this terrorists daughter telling the world he was a hero. I hope she is on the watch list and has ten agents following her for the rest of her life.

Thanks for condoning violence Howie from the peace loving dimocrat you aren't.

Ronald, it doesn't take much to bring charges against those in government who should speak up because they actually don't pay their taxes. when it is uncovered and made public to be addressed. They need the IRS to absolve them of any penalties like Charles Rangel(D-NY), Tim Geithner (Treasury Secertary), Pete Stark(D-CA), Tom Daschle(D-SD), Eliot Engel(D-NY), Hilda Solis(Labor Secretary), Kathleen Sebelius(Health and Human Services Secretary) and the list goes on and on. And yes there are republicans too, but I figured Jmac, estacado, or Paidi would be more than happy to provede that list.

Estacado, that is three Cheats in Obama's cabinet!! Bill Richardson along with daschle backed out at least. Don't forget Obama's pick for Chief Preformance Officer, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Clinton Administration where she was also appointed to the IRS Oversight Board.

Boy!! I can't wait to see what ya'll come up with on republicans!!!

Maybe Ronald is not so crazy after all?

Ronald L. Weston, I agree, I sat on a jury on a man who refused to pay his taxes. Though I felt for his courage to stand up to the IRS, me and the other jurors said, "Hey, I pay my taxes, don't like it, but I do pay, so why shouldn't you". We found him guilty and sentenced him to 10 years in prison.

Reagrdless of the horrible over taxations we have to pay in this Country? That's no excuse to murder innocent people and destroy property. No excuse period. I cannot consider anyone a hero for this terrorist act. Mr. Hunter was the real hero in this terrible incident, and my sympathies are with his family.

Regardless of the horrible over taxations we have to pay in this Country? That's no excuse to murder innocent people and destroy property. No excuse period. I cannot consider anyone a hero for this terrorist act. Mr. Hunter was the real hero in this terrible incident, and my sympathies are with his family.

I guess nobody gets it? What is needed is tax reform. This system that was conceived of political morons 97 years ago is a failure, period! We need to take a good look at where we are at and where we need to be going. Bringing the $11 Trillion in offshore accounts back to the United States would be a great start don't cha think? This will never happen under the current syaytem. The Fair Tax Act was created buy today's best economic and political minds.

Politicians themselves don't like it because if corporate lobbyists don't need to throw money at them for industry tax incentives, then how will they pay for their multi-million dollar campaigns? Everyone pays the same under this legislation and therre are no loopholes or hiding. And the cost of administration and enforcement goes way down.

Without change you will see these acts continue and escalate because people get sick of people
like Charles Rangel(D-NY), Tim Geithner (Treasury Secertary), Pete Stark(D-CA), Tom Daschle(D-SD), Eliot Engel(D-NY), Hilda Solis(Labor Secretary), Kathleen Sebelius(Health and Human Services Secretary) getting off scot free while we citizens turn on one another to the tune of 10 year prison sentences.

www.fairtax.org Be a real patriot and effect real change.

You want change? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE CHANGE!!!

It's disappointing to hear any words of empathy for this murderer. Despite one's objections to what the IRS does and how they do it, to empathize with this guy is to imply some level of justification for his murderous deed even when paying lip service to denouncing his crime. It definitely amounts to blaming the victim.

This is also comparable to having understanding for the actions of anti-U.S. terrorists who feel they are justified in their attacks due to what they perceive as U.S. wrongdoings against them and their people. Not good company to be aligned with.

As opposed to a War Mongering Republican??
What makes you think I'm condoning violence??
I was being sarcastic!!

If you recall,when asked to comment about the OKC Federal Building Bombing,Anoxeric Neocon Skanktard Ann Coulter replied"I Only Wish He Would've Blown Up The New York Times Building Instead!!".

Uh Huh!!!Ain't much fun when the shoe's on the other foot now is it???
BTW:I'm neither Democrat nor Republican;Liberal nor Conservative.
I'm an American First;A Texan Second and by Ancestry,Scots-Irish.

It might suprise you to know that Paternal Great Great Great Great Grandfather served in the 10th North Carolina Continental Line Regiment during the Revolutionary War.

And I beleive as George Washington said"THose Who Long For Peace Must Prepare For War."as well as
Dwight D.Eisenhower's"WE Must Guard Against The Military-Industrial Complex.".

My Philosophy About Life,It Varies.
Good Mood-"I Still Beleive That In Spite Of Everything People Are Still Good At Heart.".
-Anne Frank:"The Diary of Anne Frank".
Bad Mood:"If They Move...KILL EM'!!!".
-William Holden:"THe Wild Bunch".
Inbetween:"Lately It Occurs To Me What a Long Strange Trip It's Been."
-The Grateful Dead:"Truckin".

My Heroes Are Quanah Parker-The Last Great War Chief Of The Comanche Natioon.
Johnny Cash-The Greatest Singer Who Ever Lived.
John Wesley Hardin-The Most Notorious Gunfighter
Who Ever Lived.

Both of my Paternal Great Great Grandfathers fought for the Confederacy,so I'm a Rebel Without a Clue!!!

On Religion,as the Late Elmer Kelton said in his
classic western novel"The Good Old Boys":
"I Always Liked God Better When I Found Him Outdoors.
He Seemed Too Big To Be Cramped Up In a Little Bitty Churchhouse.".
-or-
As The Ol'Red Headed Stranger Himself,Willie Hugh Nelson said"When I Was a Kid,They Taught Us In Sunday School That People Who Drank Beer;Smoked Cigarettes and Played Dominoes Would Not Enter
The Kingdom of Heaven.

If That's True,I've Been Bound For Hell Since I Was Eight Years Old.".

And I'm not a Tree Hugger either!!Back in my drinking days though,there were times I was a
Commode Hugger!!

Since work's slow and I'm off today,I'll probably mix up some hot chocolate and watch The Duke in"The High and The Mighty"or Robert Mitchum in
"The Enemy Below"!!

Gustatus Similis Pullis

If terrorist manifestos, and demands, and "reasons" were never made public, maybe some of the "honor" would be taken out of dying for these various deranged causes. By making them famous (or even "heroes") we are giving them exactly what they wanted. If a terrorist thought he would be thought of as a deranged kook, rather than hero or martyr, he might try a different method.

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Just an observation: It seems in this forum, the further extreme right the comments are, the worse the spelling and grammar.

Big Kev you are part of the reason that people have to resort to violence. So because you go along with the extortion someone who refuses needs to go to prison for 10 years? Trial by a jury of peers is supposed to prevent injustice. A large part of the problem in that social conservatives don't have the slightest idea what justice requires. Oh you can scream when it's your rights that are trampled on but more often you are complicit in the trampling of other's rights.
The 'tryanny of the majority' isn't a reminder to be polite the minority. It's a warning of the problems that result when the minority refuses to comply. We're a nation of too many laws and too many idiots willing to enforce the stupidest of them.

Finley,

"Just an observation: It seems in this forum, the further extreme right the comments are, the worse the spelling and grammar."

It probably has something to do with this:

video.foxnews.com/v/4016232/college-skews-political-spectrum

For those who don't want to waste five minutes of their lives watching a Fox news segment, the gist of the video is that people with college educations are more likely to be liberal.

Here are some of Brian’s highly knowledgeable liberals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

Brian, that makes sense. Universities have long been chuches of liberal indoctrination.

JR, great link! It also solidifies my point about the Zero Liability Voter(those making less than $32k annually). If you don't make a contribution to the federal coffers you should not have a say in choosing representatives that are responsible for spending it. Why? Because they will always vote for the candiddates promising them a raise in benefits. Wow, the Zero Liabilty Voter and the congress both love voting themselves pay increases! What a corrupt coincidence.

My dad always told me that you can't fix stupid, but for the sake of the nation we should certainly prevent them from voting!! I know, I know, I'm cruel, hypocrytical, uninformed yeah yeah.

If you have the guts to watch this video, I also wonder if you will have the guts to tell me I'm wrong afterward. The Zero Liability Voter is more dangerous to this country than any terrorist. Because they are the one who be responsible for this country's ruin.

These people can sit there in front of their computer and morally judge people and condemn these attacks. Then when they're done "pooh-pooh-ing" them, they move on with their lives without taking any action which makes them hypocrites.

No one LISTENS anymore. Warning signs are ignored. The more the government oppresses people, they more they are going to fight back.

Dman1B,

Personally I think we’re in serious trouble. According to the Tax Foundation, 60% of the families in the US receive more from the government than they pay in. And it’s only going to get worse under Obama. Here’s the link.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/25196.html

Everyone I know dislikes the IRS. I have had my battles with them. My son has as well.

Both were caused by our ignorance and simply not wanting to face the music that we owed money each year.

We both have settled with the IRS. I refigured my exemptions so I would get some moeny back each year. The boy is still paying his off.

That is the law we are faced with. Stark was an idiot and stupid plus he was not much of a man. He did not accept his responsibility and decided to kill innodcent people as a result.

He apparrantly has a daughter who feels the same way. She bears watching as she appears to be a bomb waiting to be delivered. I hope someone i her life teaches her responsibility.

Folks, we know the rules of the game. It try to beat those rules puts you in a weak undefensibile position.

I have no respect for Stark or his memory. Killing innocent people for whatever reason is just plain wrong.

Interesting that Stack's daughter, who complains about injustices in the tax system of the US, lives in Norway. One of the most heavily taxed countries in the world. Universal healthcare,
and overall very happy citizens.
Hypocrisy anyone?

Interesting that Stack's daughter, who complains about injustices in the tax system of the US, lives in Norway. One of the most heavily taxed countries in the world. Universal healthcare,
and overall very happy citizens.
Hypocrisy anyone?

For the record, I hate taxes too. I just
detest violence to solve problems even more.
Let's enforce the tax laws that we have.
Dick Cheney and other greedy corporatists continue to move the headquarters of their businesses to Dubai or P.O. boxes in the Caymans to avoid paying US taxes.
They are the ones that need to be held accountable!

Joe S, the man on trial was a member of the Republic of Texas, his group had suied dozens of people over issues that allowed them to take land away from people and they refused to pay Federal taxes. The man was a millionare, his son was in A&M and he hadn't paid taxes in over 18 years. I listened to the IRS explain how they were willing to forgive half of what he owed, 2.8 million dollars. The man refused. We sat in that jury room and I thought about how I pay and pay taxes, I pay for my own daughters tuition, I pay for the roads he drives on, the military to protect him and the government to represent him. No, 10 years was fair.

I can't respect anyone who says to themselves, "I don't like my life, I don't like my government, and I don't like taxes, so I think I'll go kill a few people!"

Seriously, if Stack couldn't persuade people to see things his way through reason, what made him think killing people would?

Stack wasn't some patriotic hero making a statement, he was just a self centered tax dodger who wanted revenge on the IRS.

Late to the party again...I agree one hundred percent with Ms. Strop-Adams' letter. Okay, cupie doll prize for the first right winger libertarian on these blogs that condemns Joe Stack as a terrorist scum bag like his brethren bin Laden, McVeigh, or the Weatherman terrorists. No Stack's frustration nonsense...sounds so liberal. Just condemn Joe Stack as the terrorist killing civilians that he is in no uncertain terms. Any takers??

Mr. Weston, please read my response to you in the other Stack thread.

estacado, Joe Stack is a terrorist scum bag like his brethren bin Laden, McVeigh, or the Weatherman terrorists!

You know me, I'll say anything for a cupie doll! They're so cuddly.

Dman1b, big hug and... How 'bout one of them Dominican cigars to light up now?

Also late to the game, but taxes and handouts, what a way to end the evening. I just heard where Dick "Darth Vador" Cheney had his 5th heart attack yesterday. I don't guess he's worried about his healthcare premiums going up. Each time there's a little flutter, he's shuffled off to the hospital and given a pile of tests and procedures. Wonder what would happen if he had to wait in the emergency room like the rest of us-and also had to pay his deductable before he would be given the tests or his insurance refused to pay? Where are those pesky death panels? Hmmm... just wondering.

Also as Warren Buffet once said, his secretary pays a lot more in taxes than he does. He said that the tax code wasn't fair to middle class Americans. Have you noticed how everyone starts hollaring when there's a mention of raising taxes for the top 2% of the wealthiest Americans. Somehow these million and billionaires have hoodwinked the "average" Joe and Jane into thinking that raising taxes on the wealthy is so unfair. So, instead, guess who gets screwed?!

bluebonnet,

Buffet pays capital gains, not income taxes. If taxes give us prosperity, let's raise them to 100% and have prosperity forever.

How, by any standard, does Cheney’s health care fit into a discussion on terrorism? It is set by law. Biden and Gore will get the same thing. Do you think Cheney should be treated differently?

JR, you're kidding...right? That communist, Warren Buffet "pays capital gains, not income taxes". Yes, I am aware capital gains are taxed at 15 percent but it is "income". Here's what that billionaire Communist had to say in the London Times on-line about his secretary and her income taxes versus his. I especially liked his line: "Republicans are more likely to think: “I’m making $80 million a year – God must have intended me to have a lower tax rate.” And thanks for your outrage over the terrorist, Joe Stack. Poor Joe was just misunderstood.

From The Times June 28, 2007

"Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretaryTom Bawden in New York

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Warren Buffett, the third-richest man in the world, has criticised the US tax system for allowing him to pay a lower rate than his secretary and his cleaner.

Speaking at a $4,600-a-seat fundraiser in New York for Senator Hillary Clinton, Mr Buffett, who is worth an estimated $52 billion (£26 billion), said: “The 400 of us [here] pay a lower part of our income in taxes than our receptionists do, or our cleaning ladies, for that matter. If you’re in the luckiest 1 per cent of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99 per cent.”

Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation.

The comments are among the most signficant yet in a debate raging on both sides of the Atlantic about growing income inequality and how the super-wealthy are taxed.

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They echo those made this month by Nicholas Ferguson, one of the leading figures in Britain’s private equity industry, when he criticised tax rates that left its multimillionaire venture capitalists “paying less tax than a cleaning lady”.

Last week senior members of the US Senate proposed to increase the rate of tax that private equity and hedge fund staff pay on their share of the profits, known as carried interest, from the 15 per cent capital gains rate to about 35 per cent.

Lloyd Blankfein, the chief executive of Goldman Sachs, acknowledged in an interview yesterday that there were justified concerns about the huge profits generated by private equity firms and that he worried that income inequality was “poisoning democracy”. He also said that he would be voting for the Democrat candidate at the next election. Mr Blankfein is the highest-paid executive on Wall Street, earning $54 million last year.

Mr Buffett, who runs the investment group Berkshire Hathaway and is widely regarded as the world’s most successful investor, said that he was a Democrat because Republicans are more likely to think: “I’m making $80 million a year – God must have intended me to have a lower tax rate.”

Mr Buffett said that a Republican proposal to eliminate elements of inheritance tax, which raises about $30 billion a year from the assets of about 12,000 rich families, would broaden the disparity between rich and poor. He added that the Republicans would seek to recover lost revenue by increasing taxes for the less prosperous.

He said: “You could take that $30 billion and give $1,000 to 30 million poor families. Or should you favour the 12,000 estates and make 30 million families pay an extra $1,000?”

Estacado my sweet, don't get me started on the tax code. Buffett is right and wrong a the same time. So what does that say about the beauty of the system? He doesn't get into the complexities of what write offs his secretary has like mortgage interest, childcare credits, business mileage and entertainment, ect. You know Buffett and the rich know how to game the system for minimum liability. I'm no different, my wife and I both have side businesses that loose money through depreciation and other things that minimize our liability.

So, I have been posting for a while about the dangers of the Zero Liability Voter(Making $32k or less) and it doesn't appear that anyone has watched the video JR posted a link to and come back and said "No Dman these votes are a valuable asset to the direction of our country!" Why not? Is it because you can't do with a straight face, or is it that your to busy crying with the knowledge of the fact that in order to survive these folks are going to have to get cut off the system? I'll post again for convenience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

I have also been posting a link to a piece of legislation called the Fair Tax Act, which I doubt anyone has read because most folks in here just want to spew their ideas while remaining closed to any new ideas that could bring about the change they claim to aspire for.

So, if you are afraid to change don't complain about anything taking place that is a result of the same ol, same ol. One may not agree with me and that is ok, but at least I'm offering up peaceful legislative change that I feel is for the better. What is it you are bringing to the table?(that is not directly pointed at estacado, but in generall to eveyone)

www.fairtax.org Buffett, Forbes all the great ones know this is the way to go for a lot of reason.

How come only the guys get offered cigars?

Fed up, tell me what you like and will get it to you. No American should be without the relaxing enjoyment of good cigar and glass of wine, or scotch, or pale ale. Some decisions are just harder to make then others.

estacado,

Do you really think Buffet is talking about income that is reported on a W-2 or 1099 when he said income? And do you really think he’s telling the truth?

Here is a breakdown on percentage of total income taxes paid and the average rate, based on gross income, by income using 2007 numbers. See Link 1.

Top 1% pay 40.42% of all income taxes paid at an average rate of 22.45%
Top 10% pay 71.22% of all income taxes paid at an average rate of 18.79%.
Top 25% pay 86.59% of all income taxes paid at an average rate of 15.98%
Top 50% pay 97.11% of all income taxes paid at an average rate of 14.03%
Bottom 50% pay 2.89% of all income taxes paid at an average rate of 2.99%

On top of this disparity, many in the bottom 50% get the Earned Income Tax Credit. We have reached a point where the bottom 60% of wage earners receive more from the government than they pay in. And this will only get worse under Obama. See Link 2. This system is unsustainable and needs to be changed.

1. taxfoundation.org/research/show/250.html

2. taxfoundation.org/publications/show/25196.html

Dman1b,

All but the pale ale thing. I prefer a porter. Single-malt scotch and a fine cigar is absolutely necessary though.

Before I quit smoking, I would accidently import Cuban cigars for my days off when I worked overseas. Having one with my coffee in the morning is the only thing I miss about smoking. One of them with a good Cabernet would just about make me start again

JR...please put it into perspective for me. How much 'wealth' exactly does the top 10% own compared to the bottom 90%?

Plano Mo,

Most people get into high tax brackets the old fashioned way. This is by hard work, sacrifice, and good choices. We are punishing the most successful members of our society. Do you think that the upper 40% supporting the lower 60% is fair? Let me ask you another question. How much is a fair percentage for them to pay? 80%? 90%? Maybe all of the taxes? Or we might pass a wage cap where everyone would make the same no matter what they do.
Also, most people don’t stay in the same brackets all their lives. Someone in the bottom 50% might be in the top ten percent later and then move back down as they retire. Our position in tax brackets is very fluid and changing.

It's not a hypothethical....it's really just a question. Can you answer it? I'm really curious.

Plano Mo,

I’m sorry I was short. I don’t know and also don’t know why it would matter unless you were wanting to make them pay more. You might follow the link to the Tax Foundation. They have quite a bit of interesting info.

JR and Dman1b, I will research the links you list on taxes, but that pesky pay-the-rent work calls.

JR,

In my last post, I defined income as the reportable income from all sources on the annual tax forms by April 15 and I believe Buffet was defining his in the same manner as compared to his secretary's income, not just a W-2.

My dig to you about not condemning the terrorist, Stack's actions, was a serious one. Jefferson's tree of liberty should not be soaked in the blood of innocents. Stack took his action straight from the jihadist playbook with complete malice aforethought. I have been critical of my liberal brethren on these blogs, like Paidi's difficult to follow writings. A homicidal extremist from left or right should be condemning loudly and without reservation first. Then any underlying factors in our rule of law society can be addressed once we all understand the rules don't include killing innocents for a politial point.

I frequently disagree with your viewpoint, estacado, but I TOTALLY agaree with your statement about Stack. There IS no excuse for his actions. None.

The reason I mentioned Cheney's lavish healthcare because we are paying for it! Unforunately for the rest of us, stuff happens. "This year, an estimated 1.5 million Americans will declare bankruptcy. Many people may chalk up that misfortune to overspending or a lavish lifestyle, but a new study suggests that more than 60 percent of people who go bankrupt are actually capsized by medical bills. "Unless you're a Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, you're one illness away from financial ruin in this country," says lead author Steffie Woolhandler, M.D., of the Harvard Medical School, in Cambridge, Mass. "If an illness is long enough and expensive enough, private insurance offers very little protection against medical bankruptcy, and that's the major finding in our study."

For those of you who still think that taxing the top wealthy is too much for the "poor little rich people", remember what the rate used to be--70%.

"During Reagan's tenure, income tax rates of the top personal tax bracket dropped from 70% to 28% in 7 years, while social security and medicare taxes increased."

"Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in 1982 then dropped during the rest of Reagan's terms, averaging 7.5%. Reagan’s administration is the only one not to have raised the minimum wage."

"In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion, and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation. Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency."

Reagan's legacy is still living on in the fact that we "peasants" are still defending the right for the super wealthy to be taxed at the same rate as us. They just laugh at us working stiffs!

Estacado, indeed, Jefferson only mentions the blood of patriots and tyrants. Not poor stiffs just trying to make ends meet. Also watch JRs youtube link and give thought to the dangers of the zero liability voter. Being the unpredictable little minx that you are, am in interested in what you think after hearing them for yourself.

JR & Boris Kane, I still import cubans for the morning coffee and let me know if you ever need to fall off the wagon. It's the only way to fly.

No excuse,

You are evidently very ignorant of the tax laws and the regulations that enforce them. Title 26 Income Tax is Non=positive Law. Now read the following from the GPO Website:

Of the 50 titles, only 23 have been enacted into positive (statutory) law. These titles are 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 23, 28, 31, 32, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 44, 46, and 49. When a title of the Code was enacted into positive law, the text of the title became legal evidence of the law. Titles that have not been enacted into positive law are only prima facie evidence of the law. In that case, the Statutes at Large still govern.

Therefore, when you look at a section of code in the Tax Code you must refer to what the Public Laws (Statutes) listed under the section state.

Have you done that, or at least referred to the Parallel Table of Authorities and Rules to see where the legislative or substantive rules for that section of code are?

Lets take section 6321 - Lien for Taxes for example. Such regulations are found only in Title 27 - alcohol, Firearms, and Tobacco. Same holds true for Section 6331 - Levy.

This is proven in the Federal Register at T.D. ATF-301, 55 FR 47605, Nov. 14, 1990. The Supreme Court has stated:

t is not unfair to charge Hunt with constructive notice of pertinent regulations published in the Federal Register. Fed. Crop Ins. Corp. v. Merrill, 332 U.S. 380, 384-85 (1947) (“Just as everyone is charged with knowledge of the United States Statutes at Large, Congress has provided that the appearance of rules and regulations in the Federal Register gives legal notice of their contents.”); see 44 U.S.C. § 1507 (1994).

What sayeth you now?

"The Sixteenth Amendment, although referred to in argument. has no real bearing and may be put out of view. As pointed out in recent decisions, it does not extend the taxing power to new or excepted subjects,... " - Peck V. Lowe, 247 U.S. 165, 173 (1918)

and from the Oregon Supreme Court:

"The individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for the mere privilege of existing. The corporation is an artificial entity which owes its existence and charter powers to the state; but the individuals' rights to live and own property are natural rights for the enjoyment of which an excise cannot be imposed." - Redfield v. Fisher, 292 P. 813, 135 Or. 180, 294 P. 461, 73 A.L.R. 721 (1931)

Better learn before you speak.

Eat Texas Yellow Dog, I do not know how you know so much about me, and do not care. I am already sentenced to death because my health care is provided by the VA.

Big Kiev, if the evidence submitted proved the defendant innocent you have nothing to be proud of by finding him guilty just because "you all paid your taxes". He should have been found innocent and those on the jury should have done their own look at why, and applied it to themselves.

Proof concerning this, and all of my previous posts can be found in "From Freedom to Serfdom" based on official government sources. It included Supreme Court, and other decisions that tell what income is, and is not. Also covers the documentation system of federal law, what the income tax and employment taxes are (they are different and it is the employment taxes that federal, and state theft occurs. It also contains much more applicable information. The document is available at http://www.freewebtown.com/ronarl and is free.

Almost forgot, it covers the jurisdiction of the federal courts, and it is not what you think.

Ronald Weston, you as a sympathizer for a murdering terrorist, Joe Stack, and apologist for his homicidal actions have little room to quote arcane tax authorities through our Constitutional system of laws and courts to support your tax positions. You as a right wing extremist condoning murdering of innocents are lucky to have the laws of the United States defending your rights that you are so quick to assert. Terroritst are despicable and those that support them.

Curious, bluebonnet, how you mention Cheney’s sweet health care benefit yet not Clinton’s. Or all of Congress for that matter, considering they are in the process of ruining what good benefits we have, yet leave untouched their own benefits and, apparently, those of anyone who supports the majority. That is what inequity looks like, not necessarily Cheney (or Clinton) using those very benefits Congress gave them and themselves. More to the point I was making earlier as to the total lack of respect for the public’s level of intelligence (though this administration clearly thinks anyone who disagrees with it is simply not very smart), which in turn heightens feelings of hostility.

estacado,

You’re right, I haven’t specifically condemned this nut case. I thought that would be self evident from my oft stated position on rule of law and individual rights. Taking their life is the ultimate violation of an individual’s rights.

While I think we have a grossly unfair tax system which punishes success and probably violates the Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments as well as the presumption of innocence that is the foundation of our law, killing or intimidating IRS employees is not the proper way to change the system.

I must confess to being one of the ignorant masses. Am I being robbed of my taxes? Who knows? Like the average person, I can't even get through the simplest tax forms without help. It's crazy. I can see how those who have much, have much to complain about, but those who have little, have little to complain about. Despite living in a large metropolitan area, can I afford to live the life I always wanted? Why, as a matter of fact, yes I can. Why? Because I don't need or want much. Y'all might think I'm niave, but the best life I can imagine comes not from things, but from simplicity. I grew up in the country, believing in appreciating the little things. Does everyone from "the country" feel this way? Not at all. I'm just lucky, I guess.

Whoops. Misspelled "naive."