OpEd News journalist depicts the reality of a new civil war

by smkovalinsky | October 7, 2009 at 07:13 am

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A piece appearing today on OpEd News (a site to which I am a contributing writer) depicts for those on the radical right and left what a new civil war would look like. He describes martial law and assassinations, gunfire and bombs and breakdown and chaos. The complete article can be read at :http://www.opednews.com/articles/This-is-what-Civil-War-in-by-foxholeatheist-091006-176.html

I think however that no such scenario has any potential to come into actuality. However I agree along with the expert and superiorly sublime Howe and Strauss team, that there is another civil war scenario which could indeed become reality in America in the coming years: This would take place not with gunfire but with technological and Internet "terrorism": major hackings, blackouts and brownouts in major cities; boycotts and small localized acts of domestic terrorism; secession of states and state emergencies. The danger of this is real and palpable.

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a211423

at 08:42 on October 7th, 2009

Some believe the rise in the Militia Movement in the U.S. is a symptom of the discontentment of the radical right who believe revoluction is not only eminent but inevitable. The rise in guns sales and ammunition is reported as a bell weather for the increase in these kinds of citizen movements.

We have already witnessed forms of internet terrorism through hacking, and I agree this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the sophistication of internet activities with criminal intent. This is why proceeding with electronic medical record keeping needs to ensure security measures as one of their top priorities.

Roy C

at 08:47 on October 7th, 2009

The Tea Party people are pretty much convinced that they can win through the ballot box, the courts and so on.

I don't see the violence coming except when stuff such as food riots begin after another downturn in the economy and when it becomes clear just how jobless the jobless recovery will be.

rng

at 11:16 on October 7th, 2009

Tea Party people are pretty much convinced - it is the "pretty much" that should have us concerned. LOL

Roy C

at 11:52 on October 7th, 2009

Same for your side. What do you think the little "brainwashing" of the kids' incident was about? You really think that the idiot at the head of Homeland Security is not more concerned about letting in illegals than in stopping terrorists?

And, why cut back on the number of border guards as we try to help the Mexican prez do his job?

And why talk about all the arms that go from here to there when most come from elsewhere in the world, if you aren't contemplating confiscation?

Yes, Napolitano is the New Reno of Waco. She is looking for a chance to hit first. An exaggeration. I don't know.

She certainly is a Cretin of Border Policy, as is the whole Obama administration.

Why make people get shots if they dont' want them? Are we owned by the administration, in their minds, that is?

I think so.

And that is where the "pretty much" comes from, from people who have balls dealing with sociopaths who have been elected who are in a state of paranoia as they generate the very opposition they fear.

Remember Pelosi. Yeah, that was the essence of the Big Lie. She sees violence only on one side as she prepares the groundwork for what?

rng

at 12:10 on October 7th, 2009

from people who have balls dealing with sociopaths

Are you advocating taking up arms against the current administration is in anyway justifiable? I want to very sure I understand what you are implying

Roy C

at 12:48 on October 7th, 2009

What was Pelosi implying? You have the same problem, yet you see it only on your side.

I advocate the Tench Amendment and the reversal of the Commerce decision of the US Supreme Court that made a famer's wheat, grown for his own consumption, subject to interstate commerce law.

And, if someone has the illusion that the government has the right to confiscate our arms, no, I don't recommend Gandhian passivity.

Napolitano, who started the "right-wing paranoia" tactic as soon as she got it office by talking about Iraqi veterans and militias, has something in common with the Obama administration: an absence of real balls. It is not going to come to that. Obama has already blown it and will go down as the worst president in recent history, that is, since 1900.

So, no, I don't see it coming to that.

At Ruby Ridge, they, the government, lost, not the battle, but the war.

rng

at 12:54 on October 7th, 2009

Roy I have never, repeat never, advocated violence as a form of opposition to a democratically elected US Administration, and even if Bush was still in office would oppose anyone who did try that. On that I am very clear, fight at the polls not in the streets with guns

Roy C

at 14:00 on October 7th, 2009

A democratically elected government better stay "democratic". That is what I say.

Gandhi himself opposed the confiscation of arms, believe it or not.

a211423

at 09:05 on October 7th, 2009

The Oaklahoma bombing was a result of the militia movement, so I do not under estimate the radical ends to which some believe they must go.

I agree, the economy, joblessness and general discontentment give rise to erratic behaviors.

Only2perCent (not verified)

at 10:45 on October 7th, 2009

"The Oaklahoma bombing was" another attempt to disarm the United States citizens. The TV broadcasts and the newspaper articles of the time indicate, that there were three military-grade explosive devices planted in the municipal building, - only one went off. The shape of the destruction of the building was inconsistent with a self-made bomb going off in the van, parked outside the building. The US general public does not pay attention to those "little inconsistencies" until it's too late. Now we are facing the all-out onslaught on our freedoms. The New World Order will keep charging forward until its total defeat, or so it seemed in May of 1945.

a211423

at 10:42 on October 7th, 2009

smk

Here is an article in the LA Times today. This is sentinel because it's an international conspiracy ring.

More than 50 people have been indicted in Southern California, Las Vegas and Charlotte, N.C., in connection with a "phishing" scheme to steal bank account information from thousands of victims in the United States, an FBI spokeswoman said.

The federal indictment, which is due to be unsealed today, names 53 indicted suspects as well as 47 unindicted co-conspirators from Egypt, said Laura Eimiller, the FBI spokeswoman.

Among those named in the indictment are suspects from Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Riverside, Orange and San Diego counties.

The suspects are accused of posing as legitimate bank representatives and sending e-mails to victims, seeking to "update" their records. After the victims would send their personal information, the suspects allegedly withdrew money from their bank accounts.

Eimiller said Egyptian authorities would be seeking charges against the suspects from that country.

-- Andrew Blankstein

Only2perCent (not verified)

at 10:49 on October 7th, 2009

How come the shills get to post with paragraphs, but my formatting was removed?

amyjudd

at 12:34 on October 7th, 2009

What do you mean 'your formatting was removed' - do you mean some of your text? Or HTML code?

Roy C

at 12:24 on October 7th, 2009

Try again. It has happened to me about a half-dozen times.

amyjudd

at 12:34 on October 7th, 2009

What has?

AGK

at 12:37 on October 7th, 2009

A211423:

I hate having to go into this other account but wanted to thank all and you in particular for this information. Yes, things like that can be done on a very grand scale. I also read a couple of years ago that there was a blackout in a city down south. Power was down all over for a day or 2. It turned out it was Martin Luther King's birthday, and some White Supremacy group had threatened to cause a blackout via computer hacking, and they did so. Now just imagine the chaos if this were to happen repeatedly in many places: Computers down, lights and phones out, etc. A few years ago I was going to pick up something late at night with my son, and there was a black out in our neighborhood. It was erie driving and seeing no street lamps, McDonalds and Walmart all dark with their signs blacked out. Just imagine this done as "domestic terrorism:---THAT is a 21st century civil war image!!! smkovalinsky

Hugh Askew

at 15:01 on October 7th, 2009

Horrors! How shall we live? What shall we eat?

Micky D's is dark!

Darkness at night - now that is a novel concept!

Roy C

at 12:37 on October 7th, 2009

I write something and then hit "Post Comment", and when I look, a lot of the post isn't there.

I don't know if I hit some button on the keyboard inadvertently or not.

a211423

at 15:32 on October 7th, 2009

smk

You are welcome : )

Driving in the city, you are used to having street lamps, but here in the country where I live the only ones are on state highways that have signs with lights. There are no street lamps here.

In terms of having massive electrical outages, I would be most concerned where people depend on electricity for medical reasons and for the elderly. Hospitals have generators that come on automatically if outside electrical source fails. Most newer buildings have lights that come on automatically also.

Domestic terrorism can compromise us in various ways: water contamination; fuel supplies; power plants; germ warfare used against civilians; nuclear plants; military installations; mass transit systems; any or all utility plants; telecommunications; banking establishments; large stadiums, convention centers or gathering places for people; shipping docks for container import and export; major airports; bridges connecting major transportation--to mention a few.

We are vulnerable in many areas.

Robert Timsah (not verified)

at 17:38 on October 7th, 2009

The problem isn't domestic terrorism, it's constitutional rape from our elected leaders which is cheered on by the mainstream media. It's about a complete breakdown of our Republic and it's (supposed) constitutional principles. We're now the country of the too big to fails, massive stimulus plans that we can't fund, bailouts totaling 20 trillion in obligations and all of this is counter-intuitive to our founding. You can't have free and open markets if you don't let anyone fail. You can't call this capitalism, when you intervene and manipulate the market. As Americans we should focus on the causes of the peoples discontent, instead of seeking to marginalize and further anger them. I contend that both sides of the political spectrum are angry because of a lack of open, honest dialogue as well as principled leadership from either side. The political hacks have realized that to get their agenda through, all they have to do is bend over and let the other side get their agenda through. As a result we have continual wars and massive entitlement spending because neither side is principled enough to stop the other side with long, open and honest debate. This was largely encouraged with the notion of "working together in times of crisis" and we've completely lost the checks and balances we need. This isn't a "breakdown" of the people, it's a breakdown of our government. So lets try to put the focus back where it belongs.