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[edit] October 3

[edit] missing letters from the 2001 series of the one dollar bill "in god we trust"

I have in my possession a one dollar bill that is from the 2001 series in the front of the dollar it has the letter H on the front with the serial numbers, it does not have the small letters on the front with a small number, also in the back, instead of "in god we trust", the letters are not faded out, it says I Go We Rust, it appears to be a misprint. I have taken it to several banks and stores and they say it is a valid one dollar bill? is this a misprint and does it have any value?67.238.154.121 (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

67.238.154.121 (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)Lenda MH

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WhatLinksHere

WhatLinksHere lists Shanghai and Geography of Shanghai as linking to File:Example.png, but neither do. There shouldn't be any lag in updating, as whenever I remove an image from an article, it is removed from the list straightaway. What could be causing this? Intelligentsium 01:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The view source function in my browser shows the code:

<div style="background-color: {{{svg-background-color}}};"><a href="/wiki/File:Example.png" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Example.png" width="300" height="324" /></a></div>

. But it's not a clickable link as far as I can tell. It originates from {{Shanghai Labelled Map}} which uses {{Image label begin}} without an image parameter. Then Example.png is used with the code {{{image|Example.png}}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Per row / per column table border properties and CSS.

Resolved.

I have been unsuccessfuly trying for days now to have my table show the way I want. I would be grateful for some advice.

With the following table definition:

{| class="BridgeExampleTable" width="100%" 
! width=7% align="center" | E 
! width=7% align="center" | S
! width=7% align="center" | O 
! width=7% align="center" | N
! width=72% align="left" | Description
|- 
| align="center" | 1SA
| align="center" | P
| align="center" | 2{{C}} 
| align="center" | P 
| align="left" rowspan=2 | 5-5, couleurs non-déterminées autres que {{P}}.
|- 
| align="center" | 2{{P}}
| align="center" | P
| align="center" | P 
| align="center" | 2SA 
|- 
| align="center" | 1SA
| align="center" | P
| align="center" | P 
| align="center" | 2SA 
| align="left" | 5-5, couleurs non-déterminées.
|}

and the following css:

table.BridgeExampleTable {
  border-style: solid;
  border-width: thin;
  border-color: black;
  border-collapse: collapse;
}

table.BridgeExampleTable th {
  border-style: solid;
  border-width: thin;
  border-collapse: collapse;
  padding-left: 5px;
  padding-right: 5px;
  background-color:#E6E6E6;
}
table.BridgeExampleTable td {
  padding-left: 5px;
  padding-right: 5px;
  background-color:#F6F6F6;
}

I get the following look (sorry, I just created an account here, I cannot upload images):

 +-------+-------+-------+--------+---------------------------------------------+
 |   E   |   S   |   O   |   N    | Description:                                |
 |-------+-------+-------+--------+---------------------------------------------|
 |   1SA     P       2♥      P                                                  |
 |                                   5-5, couleurs non-déterminées autres que ♠.|
 |   2♠      P       P      2SA                                                 |
 |   1SA     P       P      2SA      5-5, couleurs non-déterminées              |
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

I would like the borders to be like this:

 +-------+-------+-------+--------+---------------------------------------------+
 |   E   |   S   |   O   |   N    | Description:                                |
 |-------+-------+-------+--------+---------------------------------------------|
 |   1SA     P       2♥      P    |                                             |
 |                                | 5-5, couleurs non-déterminées autres que ♠. |
 |   2♠      P       P       2SA  |                                             |
 |--------------------------------+---------------------------------------------|
 |   1SA     P      P       2SA   | 5-5, couleurs non-déterminées               |
 +--------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+

Is there a way to specify borders on the Description column in the style sheet?
How can I force a border on the bottom of the rows, respecting the fact that the Description column can span several rows while the E, S, O, N columns always span one row? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.21.114.1 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 3 October 2009

~~Those images don't seem to exist...Intelligentsium 02:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)~~

Is there a particular Wikipedia article you are trying to use this in? Otherwise, you might be better off asking over at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. This desk is intended to help people specifically to edit Wikipedia, it's not clear how your CSS would be integrated into our site. Franamax (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I am editing an article on my MediaWiki server - is this a right forum for help with that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacerator (talk • contribs) 02:26, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The best place for that is mw:Project:Support Desk. Cheers. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 03:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Resolved with help from user Codicorumus on the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing forum. Jacek (talk) 21:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Table converter tool

Resolved. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 05:58, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, there was an external tool that could convert tables made in excel to wiki markup. Could someone give me the link? I can't seem to find it. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 03:13, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

http://excel2wiki.net/ --59.95.102.22 (talk) 05:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, that's the one. Thanks a lot. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 05:58, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I just installed MediaWiki; how do I permit the public to edit?

Hi,

I just installed MediaWiki at http://www.gradman.com , and I see that, unlike in Wikipedia, the public can't edit the site from an IP address!!!

How do I change it so the public can edit?

thanks. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 03:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I just created an account, logged in and made a page on your server. Look for the Jacek page. By default, you need to be logged in to edit when you install MediaWiki - is that the problem? You would like non-logged-in users to be able to modify stuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.21.114.11 (talk) 03:48, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's correct, I would like non-logged-in users to be able to modify stuff -- just like they can on Wikipedia. thanks. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 04:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

You'll have to edit your LocalSettings.php and change $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; to true. See mw:Manual:User rights. --59.95.102.22 (talk) 05:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

In theory, mw:Project:Support desk is for questions about administering your own MediaWiki wiki, but it doesn't have as many helpers as Wikipedia's Help desk. I recommend that you copy {{Google custom}} to your wiki, and keep these searches handy:

Type this	To get this	What it produces, or searches for
`{{google custom\|meta.wikimedia.org\|\|Search Meta-Wiki with Google}}`	Search Meta-Wiki with Google	Blank form to search Meta-Wiki
`{{google custom\|www.mediawiki.org\|\|Search MediaWiki.org with Google}}`	Search MediaWiki.org with Google	Blank form to search MediaWiki.org

You can find answers to many questions about administering MediaWiki with those searches. And be sure to back up your wiki to a copy on your personal computer; see mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick. If your primary instance gets messed up on the server, you will need a working backup to recover from. --Teratornis (talk) 19:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] how data is furnished by wiki

hi i am a regular user of wikipedia. could yo please let me know 1.how do you fetch the data on any topic and by whom? 2.If data is furnished by someone on a topic how do you verify that it is reliable or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sreeharsha452 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The user who left this question did not sign it. Please sign all talk page messages with a signature (~~~~)

To retrieve information on who edited this article, click history tab on top of the page beside the edit tab. To verify whether an information inserted by a person is reliable and verifiable or not, see if there is any citation mark nearby like this: ^[1] which will lead to text like this:

1. ^ xxxxxxxxxxxxx

The text written as "xxxxxx" here is what is the reference. Now, if the reference is verifiable or not is to be decided by you and me. I hope this was what the question you asked. --Srin ivas 11:47, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Should this article exist?

I came across the Simmons Family whilst correcting spelling mistakes, and it seems to be a mixture of text already incorporated in the articles on Gene Simmons, KISS and the TV show Gene Simmons Family Jewels. I'm fairly certain it doesn't really justify an article in itself and should be nominated for removal but I'm not sure how to go about it so I'd appreciate it if someone could take a look. DB 103245 10:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DB 103245 (talk • contribs)

I'd vote delete in an AfD but that's just me. There's instructions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Be prepared first by familiarizing yourself with the relevant policies, WP:N and WP:NOT are places to start. Also go through WP:ATA and you might want to read through some of the existing AfD discussions to see what they're like. Good luck!--RDBury (talk) 11:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy

There is an "of" problem in the infobox. 91.106.58.128 (talk) 14:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Solved by adding value for parameter 'body' in that infobox. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Adding a new definition

How would I add a new definitoin to a wikipedia article? The entry I would like to make already exists as a biography of a person but I'd like to add a second article completely unrelated to this person or their activities under the same name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.36.228 (talk) 15:13, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Definitions of words should go to our sister project, Wiktionary.

If you feel your article belongs in an encyclopaedia rather than a dictionary, they you'll have to register an account (or is anonymous page creation enabled?), perhaps read the manual or the tutorial (or both) and then head to Your first article.

Specific to your situation, articles with the same title but different topics are differentiated by a hatnote (e.g. "John Smith (politician)" and "John Smith (author)") and a disambiguation page if needed. For example, there are three footballers named Andy Gray: Andy Gray (footballer born 1955), Andy Gray (footballer born 1964), and Andy Gray (footballer born 1977), all of whom are listed (along with other Andy Grays) at the disambigation page Andrew Gray. Xenon54 / talk / 15:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

And, to start a new article, you'll need to register an account and read about writing an article. Make sure you have reliable sources and that the person is notable. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Question about Facebook or Netlog.com

Hello, when I write the name of a person and I add after that name the word Facebook or Netlog.com,I arrive at the introduction page of that person on the site Facebook or Netlog.com (the page where the person is introduced with a photo of him or herself and with others photo's of friends of that person and also with the products,the stores that person likes). My question is:Can this person know who went to visit his introduction page of Facebook or Netlog.com if I (the one that has written the name) am not log or registered on Facebook or Netlog.log? Thank you. Signed:Isabelle-21:25,3 october 2009.

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Also, consider contacting Facebook or netlog.log themselves. DoktorMandrake 19:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for translation

I'm looking at the category page for, and the first article listed already has both a French and an English translation - why then is it tagged with the appropriate {{Expand French}}, um, tag? Is that category for articles that need improved translations, in either French or English (hopefully not since there are articles listed that wouldn't seem to apply, in that case)? Or is it that the category is for articles that need translations from French into languages other than just English?

If it's the latter, where can I find a list of articles that require only French >> English translations? Gaiacarra (talk) 22:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

It means that the French article has more information than the English article. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 23:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Risky" template change

I wish to be WP:BOLD and make a change to a template so an additional parameter can be specified where it is used. I have outlined what I believe the required change is on Portal talk:Formula One. I don't like the potential consequences/fallout from getting the change wrong, and I don't want to wait weeks for someone to notice this on a portal talk page. --Brian McNeil /^talk 23:19, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Added. Aptery gial 23:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Whoo-hoo! Thanks. --Brian McNeil /^talk 00:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] October 4

[edit] Help with renaming an article

Can someone who knows how to rename articles take a look at Transhab. According to the article's sources, including from the (ostensibly) most reliable source, the US gvmt. NASA source (reference no. 1), the correct spelling of the name is TransHab (the latter is a redir page in WP but it seems it should be the primary page). What is the policy on this sort of subtle name change? And can someone help if it is okay to do it? Thanks. N2e (talk) 01:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The move shouldn't be controversial, and because the target is only a redirect you should be able to do it by clicking "move" at the top of the page. Xenon54 / talk / 12:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The last point of Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks)#General rules is about CamelCase. A Google search shows both TransHab and Transhab are in use. Wikipedia doesn't always follow official names when they go against normal English. See Wikipedia:Requested moves if you want to suggest a move. The target TransHab has two edits [1] so I don't think you can make the move by yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] mabinogi

how do i become a paladin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.223.124.169 (talk) 03:39, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Mabinogi (video game). If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. —teb728 t c 04:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Searching for information in English only

When I search information on a subject, most of it comes in Polish language. How do I get this information in English only ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.111.101 (talk) 03:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

You aren't finding Polish articles on English Wikipedia are you? Assuming you are getting the Polish information from a search engine, you need to set the settings of your search engine. If you don't know how to do that, try asking at the Computing section of the Reference desk. (They answer general knowledge questions.) But be sure you tell them what search engine you are using. —teb728 t c 05:10, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps you could enlighten us of what subject your talking about??? South Bay (talk) 07:10, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Even better, run such a search, copy the URL from your Web browser's address bar, and paste it into a reply here so we can directly examine your search. That will tell us some important details that you may not know are important, such as the search engine you are using. --Teratornis (talk) 19:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah. He gives more info at his user talk: He went to wikipedia.org and clicked on Polski. —teb728 t c 21:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, that might explain it. --Teratornis (talk) 01:47, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unknown file type

When I try to open some Wikipedia files, Windows reports an unknown file format and offers to search for a program to open the file. However, it never does find such a program. It is irritating because the problem only arises periodically rather than constantly. Help! Thanks

Give us an example of such a file, like this: File:Voiceless postalveolar fricative.ogg. --Teratornis (talk) 19:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] wikipedia

When I type something such as {{wikipedia}}, the entire article shows. I am trying to do something so that when I ask a question, like I am doing now, I will be notified when someone responds. I will be notified with the new messages message (I will make a sub-page under my user page). To do that, I will need to moniter a certain section. Is there any way I can put only a section of an article on my page using {{}}? Whenever I put something like {{wikipedia#history}}, the entire article shows. What do I put if I want just one section to show? Btilm 21:31, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe so. You won't be notified of changes to templates on your talk page though.--Unionhawk ^Talk ^E-mail ^Review 21:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The original poster was not referring to templates, s/he was referring to transclusion, the process by which pages are included within other pages. As to the original question, I think watchlisting is the closest one can get. Intelligentsium 23:59, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Of course, you could also try the "<noinclude>" and "<includeonly>" tags, but you would have to actually insert them onto the page, which is probably not a good idea, especially for mainspace pages. Intelligentsium 00:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: notifications to messages you receive from pages other than your user talk page. See WP:EIW#LT for information about Liquid Threads, which might someday provide expanded notifications on Wikipedia. I have no idea of when or whether Liquid Threads will come to Wikipedia. See mw:Extension:LiquidThreads#Rationale. --Teratornis (talk) 01:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Question regarding possibility of "claiming" contributions made when one has forgotten to sign in

I have recently been asked if there is any particular way for an editor to somehow revise the history of edits he made while he was signed out so that they appear as his contributions. I can understand the question, but honestly have no idea if it is possible, or how to go about doing it. Any ideas? John Carter (talk) 21:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

You can change the signature of your posts on talk pages and forums, but you can't change the IP in the history. —teb728 t c 22:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

See WP:LOGGEDOUT for tips on this. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 02:13, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unknown File Type

Gaul (Latin Gallia) is a historical name used in the context of the Roman Empire in references to the region of Western Europe approximating present day ...

Name - History - The Gauls - See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul - Cached

Hi = I asked the question about unknown file formats. This is one which returned the message I referred to. Thanks

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.146.45 (talk) 21:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a file on that page that should be causing you problems. What do you do to cause the error message to appear? (If you want to reply to this message, put it right below here - please don't start a new thread.) Xenon54 / talk / 22:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The easy way to reply right below here is to click the "edit" link opposite to the section heading. —teb728 t c 22:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

You appear to be quoting from a Google search results page. Several users have reported getting an error message about unknown file type when they click a link to a normal Wikipedia article from a Google page. It depends on the browser and only happens sometimes (never to me). Google apparently attaches something to outgoing links which can cause problems in communication between Wikipedia and some browsers. If you manually copy the url to the browser address bar instead of clicking the link on the Google page then the problem will probably go away. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you both. It was indeed a Google feed and all I was doing was clicking on the link.

Thanks for taking time to reply —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.146.45 (talk) 18:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Image not showing

I put this image

into the infobox for Geoff Rickly, but it isn't showing. What am I doing wrong?--AdamSims1991 (talk) 00:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

When you typed |image = Geoff.jpg, that was an error. It is suppose to be |img = Geoff.jpg. I fixed it for you. This article explains how to use that particular infobox. Btilm 00:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Not to quibble, but templates are distinct from articles. Templates and articles are both "pages". In Wikipedia-speak. --Teratornis (talk) 01:49, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

'K, thanks.--AdamSims1991 (talk) 01:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] October 5

[edit] new words

Perhaps I am not looking in the right place, but I wanted to know if we could add new words. I was working on a thesis tonight and stumbled upon a new word. It is a descriptive word and would most likely never be used in normal conversation but I think it is a telling word. How can I add a new word to this Encyclopedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Delshoe (talk • contribs) 00:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, it depends. If you made it up, probably not. If it is a word, you might want to consider putting it in the Wiktionary. Just out of curiosity, what is the word? Btilm 00:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. We have articles on proverbs, idioms, and stuff like that, but all definitions should go to Wiktionary. Remember that nothing you made up one day should ever be included in Wikipedia, and any topic must be notable. Xenon54 / talk / 01:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Even so, if you stumbled upon it, as in research, Wiktionary will likely already have it. Intelligentsium^review 02:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] This page is a user's work in progress page

I created a new page, but it is still labeled as a "User's work in progress page" rather than a new article. I tried moving it to the same title, but I still see the heading that it is a work in progress page. How does one officially launch an article or make it more than a user's work in progress. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Echo927 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

That's because it's a template. Templates can appear even as long as you use {{TEMPLATENAME}} to a page. But you will need to use them correctly. The template won't go unless you manually remove it, even if you move the page. -Porchcrop ^{(talk|contributions)} 01:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

But anyways, I have removed the template myself. Cheers. -Porchcrop ^{(talk|contributions)} 01:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] acid rain

How does acid rain effect taj mahal and how do they maintain and study the taj mahal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.93.28 (talk) 01:31, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Taj Mahal#History briefly discusses the effect of acid rain, with some references. The Taj Mahal is made of marble which is largely calcium carbonate and thus is susceptible to attack by acids. --Teratornis (talk) 01:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The help desk is for questions on how to use Wikipedia. For Science-related questions, such as yours, please use the Science reference desk. Intelligentsium^review 02:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Adding all articles in a category to watchlist

Is it possible to automatically add all articles within a certain category to your watchlist - including new additions to the category? BlazerKnight (talk) 01:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

No, that is not possible. But see here for something similar that you can do. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 02:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I see. Thank you. BlazerKnight (talk) 02:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Transclusion of Recent Changes

Hi Help Desk. Do any of you know of a way I could transclude a Special:RecentChangesLinked page into another project page? Usually I would just put the page name between {{Curly-brackets}} but this page seems to need URL parameters... Pretzels^Talk! 02:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Hmm.. {{Special:RecentChanges}} works for me. You can also limit the number of changes displayed like this: {{Special:RecentChanges/25}} ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 02:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah. {{Special:RecentChangesLinked/Articlebase}} did the job, just about... there must be documentation for this somewhere though. Thanks! Pretzels^Talk! 03:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

For others' future reference: m:Help:Special_page#Transclusion Pretzels^Talk! 03:37, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you were asking about related changes, not recent changes. Sorry :P ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 08:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] NoteTA

Do we have an English equivalent to this template? — C M B J 03:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you tell us exactly what that template does? Unless someone happens along who is fluent in Chinese we re basically restricted to something like Google translate. I see it is some kind of translation converter itself though I can't make out exactly what it does. Maybe someone else can but telling us if you know would be good.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Click the small ▼ on the very top right of that link. — C M B J 04:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Just more Chinese. Only the name of the page is in English. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 08:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Special:abusefilter

What language is the filter written in? --Drogonov (talk) 08:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I believe that all MediaWiki extensions are written in PHP. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox rant

Some time ago, I recall reading a short essay or humourous "rant" about infoboxes. I think it went something like: "I just took your article and ***** all over it". Would anyone know what I'm referring to? Thanks, decltype (talk) 09:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Not sure it can be what you were after, but User:Speaker219/Sandbox is a hearty denunciation of infoboxes with quotes from no less authoritative a source than Green Eggs And Ham. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

That's not it, but thanks anyway :) decltype (talk) 10:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Why can't I see my page?

I posted my page last week, it has been more than 4 days and it still does not appear. It only shows up when I log in. What do I have to do to make it public view for all to see? (User:NNSA CTOS/Counter Terrorism Operations Support (CTOS)) Please advise as to what I am doing wrong. 12:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NNSA CTOS (talk • contribs)

You created your article as a subpage of your user page. Did you mean to create it in the main encyclopedia space? Powers ^T 12:32, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

As you created it in your user space (User:NNSA CTOS/Counter Terrorism Operations Support (CTOS)), it is not part of the encyclopedia yet. However, as this is not written in Neutral Point of View language, and sounds like advertising, I would suggest that you spend some time working on it. If it was to be moved to main article space (you do not have the required number of edits and time since the account was created), it would probably be deleted anyway. I am leaving you a welcome message with some useful links, so I suggest that you read those before working on the draft article some more. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The page is copied word for word from the website. I am unclear on the copyright status because of its government association.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The contact page for the website shows a .gov address, so I'd guess that would make it a government site, and probably public domain. No copyright notices could be found. However, this would be a question for those with more legal knowledge than I have! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:32, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A bit stuck with uploading an image from a book

Hi. I am trying to upload an internal illustration from an art book for use in the article on the artist in question. I selected what appears to be the correct option in the first upload page (cover or other image from a book), but after that and the actual upload form I am presented with licensing options which exclude internal images from books (only covers are shown as an option category, with 'book cover' being the closest subcategory). However, this isn't a book cover, and it is notable that if I select that option the non-free use blurb stipulates that the image be used "to illustrate an article discussing the book in question", which the article does not - it's about the artist in question.

I have already raised this on the talk page for the upload page, but might not get an answer for ages. It seems to me that the upload form is missing categories that it should contain, at least if the first set of upload options that led me there is anything to go by. What should I do? LSmok3 (talk) 13:47, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Assuming the image you're trying to upload is a photograph of an original artwork, such as a painting or sculpture, then Wikipedia:Image use policy gives an overview of the situation. Images can't be uploaded unless 1) they are covered by an acceptable free license, 2) they are in the public domain, or 3) you can provide an acceptable fair use rationale for them. 1) doesn't apply here unless the art book specifically states its images are released under a free license (which it almost certainly won't) or unless the book is old enough to be out of copyright (e.g. published before January 1 1923 in the US). 2) won't apply even if the image is of a work of art that is itself in the public domain, because it is the photo of the artwork in the book that is covered by copyright, not the artwork itself. 3) - Yes, a low-res image of a book cover can be fairly used to illustrate an article about the book (because there is no alternative way of illustrating it) but not any other article, such as an article about the author - that's not covered by fair use. In short, there's no option on the menu to do what you're trying to do because it's not permissible under Wikipedia's image use rules. What to do? Well, if the original artwork is out of copyright and accessible to you you could take an original photo of it yourself and freely license it, or if you can find a suitable illustration by someone else that is out of copyright you could use that. Wikipedia:Public domain image resources points you to some useful sites, and WP:NFCI is a summary of the fair use policy around non-free images. Good luck! Ka renjc 21:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Doed wikipedia need money?

Because there are ads on wikipedia talk pages now.Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 19:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Ads for WikiProjects have been around for a while, but they are merely to recruit new participants. (I'm fairly certain that Wikipedia would not add ads without a community discussion and vote first.) In any case, Wikipedia is like the US's Public Broadcasting Service in that the vast majority of its funding comes from donations, and ads would only be added if the donations dry up. Xenon54 / talk / 19:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you give an example? It would be against Wikipedia policy to have commercial ads on a user page.--RDBury (talk) 22:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Twinkle trouble

I went to a user's page and tried adding a welcome template, but I click the tab and no menu loads.Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 19:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Welcoming users is not part of Twinkle. (If you have 2 questions, did it ever occur to you to include them in one post to save space?) Xenon54 / talk / 19:24, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is, I have a tab that says wel, and i know for a fact it is twinkle.Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 19:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok I admit it i meant friendly. but still can someone please explain why it is doing this?Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 19:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

You need to give us a lot more information...OS? Browser and version? Skin? Does refreshing fix the problem? Xenon54 / talk / 19:32, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The welcome tab only works in a user's talk page, not the user page. Zoo Fari 20:07, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Twinkle question

If a person forgot to sign, what option under warn should i use?Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 19:24, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Under "Single issue notices" you will find {{uw-tilde}}. DoktorMandrake 19:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't see that option...Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 19:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

There are two drop-down menus. From the first one, select "Single issue notices" then, in the second drop-down menu, select the third-to-last option, which should be uw-tilde. That being said, if someone did it once I wouldn't worry about it and if the individual is a repeat "offender," you can just write a handwritten note. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Font faces

My signature rendered correctly

Where can I find a list of font faces and font colours? I cut, pasted, and editied my signature from someone a while ago, bit I'd like to change it. ~~Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 19:30, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Both are virtually unlimited, but be aware that a font you specify will only display on computers that have it installed, while others will simply render it in a default font. For example, under Windows your signature renders in the proper font (Kristen ITC), but under Ubuntu it displays in Firefox's default font (Arial). Along the same line, the amount of colours are unlimited, but the Web safe colours (section "X11 color names") should display properly for virtually everyone. Xenon54 / talk / 19:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand, sorry! Here's a screen shot of this section from firefox. You can clearly see my signature rendared as it ought to have been. ~~Dr Dec (Talk)~~ 20:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

To see your signature like that, other users would have to have the Kristen ITC font installed - if not, it will display in the default font for each person's browser (for example, I see it in FreeSans). To answer your initial question, you can find lists of colours and fonts at w3schools.

Also, as a side-note, I would recommend using CSS styles, rather than the deprecated tag. For example, to produce this, use:

'''this'''

rather than:

'''this'''

DoktorMandrake 20:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I only saw five fonts in that link: serif, sans-serif, monospace, cursive and fantasy. Aren't there any more? ~~Dr Dec (Talk)~~ 23:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Well there are more in the link. For example, under sans-serif it lists; Arial, Helvetica, Gill Sans, Lucida and Helvetica Narrow. You can name any font you have on your computer, and it will work for anyone who has the same font installed. You can also define a list of preferred fonts, in case the one wanted is not available, for example:

<span style="font-family: Junicode, Times New Roman, serif;" ...

will use the Junicode font if it is installed. If not it will use Times New Roman, and if neither are installed it will use the default Serif font on that computer. Hope that helps. Regards, DoktorMandrake 23:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How long until I can see edit/new discussion topic?

Hello, I am user name fps2009, and I am trying to submit a new discussion topic called Float Pool Systems. I gave a brief description and believe I followed the instructions. When can i "look up" Float pool systems?

thanks, Trent —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fps2009 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 5 October 2009

You created the article on a template talk page, which is not the right place at all. (Templates are pieces of code designed to standardise the appearance of articles, while the talk page is where you discuss the template.) See Your first article for instructions on how to properly make your article. Xenon54 / talk / 19:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] speedy delete?

I just got a speedy delete message. I saw a youtube video regarding postings about companys, like Ford. What can i do to get "Float pool Systems" accepted? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fps2009 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

You created the article properly (that's good), but it didn't display the notability of the topic (that's bad). In order to have an article on Wikipedia, a topic must be notable. Notability is defined as "being mentioned in several reliable sources that are independent of the topic itself". The easiest way to establish notability is to find articles from a reliable news source, or something like that. Xenon54 / talk / 20:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

i think i understand, but this company has only been around for a few months, the topic and issues facing the healthcare industry in this area can be noted, but not specific to Float pool systems. What do you suggest? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fps2009 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

If the company has been around only a few months, and does not have significant coverage in its own right in a number of independent sources, as described at Wikipedia:Notability, then unfortunately it is not yet a suitable subject for a Wikipedia entry. Only time and increased media coverage of the company can fix this problem, I'm afraid. Ka renjc 20:47, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

It is highly recommended that any such article not be written by anyone affiliated with the company or as a promotional piece. You might wish to take a look at WP:COI and WP:ADVERT. The text that was deleted read like a marketing brochure and your username suggests an association with the company, which is why I am making these suggestions. // BL \\ (talk) 21:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] HELP ME

I need help, how do I make a link to a section?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BennyK95 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Like so: [[Article title#sectiontitle]], replacing the italicized things with their corresponding values. Intelligentsium^review 22:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) Use a hash sign (#), for example Wikipedia:Help desk#HELP ME. Xenon54 / talk / 22:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much! That helps a lot. - BennyK95 - Talk 23:04, October 5 (UTC)

[edit] October 6

How can I change links to a different color? And how can I make the links remain the same color even after I have visited an article? --William S. Saturn (talk) 00:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

To make a link a different color, use a pipe, and enclose the text with the proper tags; for example, [[Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] makes Wikipedia. The links changing color when you visit them is a browser setting and thus is in the territory of the Computing reference desk. Xenon54 / talk / 01:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Also, how can I make the background of templates black to match the black background? (I am using the black background with green text Gadget) --William S. Saturn (talk) 01:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Link color. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 02:00, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The article received a ^[why?] where it makes no sense

Hello!

I'm working on the Denzlingen article.

There was a 'Weasel Words' change by a bot, but in my opinion, I'm not using any weasel words. Maybe the bot made a mistake here.

--Blutkoete (talk) 02:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the {{why}} was added by User:Auntieruth55; the bot just dated the tag. You could post at his/her talk page and ask for clarification, or you could find a source for the statement that most of the movement to the town was Catholic. --AndrewHowse (talk) 02:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

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