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A prominent scientist has started a big new debate about breast cancer. The scientist is Mary-Claire King.

She identified the first breast cancer gene. And King is recommending that all women age 30 and older get tested for genetic mutations that put women at risk for breast cancer and ovarian cancer. NPR's Rob Stein reports that that idea is very controversial.

ROB STEIN, BYLINE: The breast cancer genes are called BRCA1 and BRCA2. Women who have mutations in these genes are way more likely to get breast cancer and ovarian cancer. But right now, doctors usually recommend women get tested only if one of those cancers runs in their families.

MARY-CLAIRE KING: The difficulty with that approach is that it misses identifying some women who have mutations in these genes.

STEIN: That's Mary-Claire King of the University of Washington. She discovered BRCA1.

KING: About half of the women who carry mutations in BRCA1 or BRCA2 that are absolutely, unquestionably devastating cancer predisposing mutations, have no family history of breast or ovarian cancer that would have suggested that they should be screened.

STEIN: But no one has recommended wide-scale screening before now for a very good reason - no one knew how dangerous the mutations were for the average woman.

KING: There was a big piece of the puzzle missing.

STEIN: So King and her colleagues decided to try to find that missing piece. They identified more than 400 women who were carrying the mutations even though they had no family history. They report their findings in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

KING: The women turned out to have the same high risks of developing either breast or ovarian cancer that we see among women who are identified by virtue of their family history.

STEIN: So King thinks that's the tipping point. It's time to recommend all women age 30 and older get screened.

KING: People who are positive can do something about it. Some women, for example, Angelina Jolie, wrote elegantly about her decision to have a double mastectomy in the absence of breast cancer.

STEIN: They could also have their ovaries removed to make sure they never get ovarian cancer. But that's exactly what's got a lot of breast-cancer experts worried. Fran Visco heads the National Breast Cancer Coalition, a leading breast cancer advocacy group.

FRAN VISCO: We are far, far from ready to recommend that all women be screened for genetic predisposition to breast cancer.

STEIN: First of all, Visco and others aren't convinced the new data are good enough to know anything for sure. And remember, just because a woman has one of these mutations doesn't mean she'll definitely get cancer. She could end up getting radical surgery for no good reason.

VISCO: These are very serious surgeries that women have to undergo - removing their breasts, removing their ovaries. We're talking about surgery to remove healthy body parts. If we give women this message, we may very well end up doing more harm than good.

STEIN: But others think it's time.

FUMMI OLOPADE: It would save millions of lives.

STEIN: Doctor Fummi Olopade is a geneticist at the University of Chicago. She says women who find out they are carrying the mutations could get MRIs on a regular basis to try to catch any breast cancer early. They could also do things short of a double mastectomy to try to minimize their chances of getting breast cancer in the first place.

OLOPADE: Having the genetic mutation doesn't mean you are definitely going to get cancer. There are some other things that modify the risk.

STEIN: Things like...

OLOPADE: If you have children - breast-fed children, don't gain weight and eat right - exercise.

STEIN: It's clear that there's going to be a lot of debate about this before the experts agree. In the meantime, it's up to individual women and their doctors to decide whether they want to get tested for the breast cancer genes. Rob Stein, NPR News.

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