Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i23MToI08661; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:29:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:29:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <Law9-F8fP2UU6hRutby00023e37@hotmail.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Susan Ryan" <susanefl@hotmail.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9980] RE: adult ed ESL requirements X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Status: O Content-Length: 9682 Lines: 271 What are CBO's? Susan >From: bodman@ucc.edu >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9979] RE: adult ed ESL requirements >Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:16:29 -0500 (EST) > >What are acceptable minimal qualifications for an ABE/ESL teacher in a >standard school district or community college-both of which are usually >part >of a larger bureaucratic system? > >We (in NY and NJ) have waged a battle since the late l970s to make >certification a requirement for language teaching (ESL included) and >bilingual education. We now have both. The essence of both programs is >that there is a minimum amount of professional knowledge, a minimum amount >of subject matter knowledge, and a minimum proficiency in the target >language or languages that is required. After all, the reasoning goes, one >cannot be a math teacher simply because one is sympathetic and kind as well >as familiar with numbers in their everyday life. In a similar manner, a >native-speaking knowledge of English does not mean that one knows how to >organize and explain it or teach it. After these minimums have been met, >then employers can begin to assess all the other myriad factors that are >required in teaching, such as: classroom management, use of appropriate >methodologies, techniques, etc. > >At the college level, an M.A. in TESOL and (at least one year) >college-level >teaching experience (as an adjunct)is now almost always required. >Full-time >jobs are so scarce in this area that most openings are filled by people >with >doctorates and many years of experience, publications, etc. Bilingual >college positions usually require native or near-native proficiency in two >or more languages and an M.A. in the subject to be taught. Recently, in an >effort to "balance" faculties, almost no jobs are being filled unless the >candidate has all the above and is either a native speaker of Haitian >Creole, South or Latin American Spanish, or African-American. Anglo males >have a particularly difficult, if not impossible, time finding work in >community colleges. > >And what about staff in CBO's ? What should be the minimum qualifications >for these teachers? > >In NY and NJ, most CBOs, if they are LEAs, must hire first from within the >school system. Any presently-employed teacher has preference over a more >highly qualified "outsider." In other CBOs, the qualification is usually >that they be a native speaker of English or that they have a college degree >from another country. No further training is required. Students vote with >their feet and the director uses this as a basis for rehiring. > >Should qualifications for all teachers be the same regardless of setting, >or >should/must the differences in mission and organization be taken into >account? > >It would be a wonderful goal to set. Yes. However, given the politics and >the reality of sometimes having to hire whomever you can get, no. > >Jean Bodman > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Pecoraro, Diane [mailto:Diane.Pecoraro@state.mn.us] >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:42 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9978] RE: adult ed ESL requirements > > >As the percentage of ESL learners in ABE programs grows, and with the >addition of community-based organizations(CBO's) as service providers, the >issue of qualifications is valid and raises questions. I will pose a few >for >discussion. > >What are acceptable minimal qualifications for an ABE/ESL teacher in a >standard school district or community college-both of which are usually >part >of a larger bureaucratic system? > >And what about staff in CBO's ? What should be the minimum qualifications >for these teachers? > >Should qualifications for all teachers be the same regardless of setting, >or >should/must the differences in mission and organization be taken into >account? > >This should stoke a few comments. I hope so! > >Diane Pecoraro >MN Department of Education >1500 Highway 36 West >Roseville, MN 55113 >651 582-8424 >diane.pecoraro@state.mn.us >Fax. 651 634-5154 > > -----Original Message----- >From: Betsy Kubota [mailto:bkubota@comcast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:59 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9974] RE: adult ed ESL requirements > >If you go to Common Qualifications for ESOL Teachers at >http://www.tesol.org/careers/counsel/qualifications.html >you will find the information the "other" Ms. Kubota was refering to. >There are some states that have mandated standards for Adult ESL teachers >but most still do not have any set requirements so it is up to the >individual program. > >Betsy Kubota >Harper College >Palatine, IL > >-----Original Message----- >From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Frances >Keenan >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:42 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9972] adult ed ESL requirements > > >Unless I missed it, I do not see anything on the TESOL site about >requirements for adult education ESL teaching. I don't believe such a >list is maintained at the national level. > >It would be a great resource for the field if it were developed! > >Fran > >-----Original Message----- >From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of carol E. >Kubota >Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 8:13 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9969] Re: question on intensity of instruction and > > >Dear Diane, > >If you go to the website of TESOL, www.tesol.org,you will find >information about the ESL certificate. Each state has different >requirements, but the information on TESOL applies to almost all >situations. > >Carol E. Kubota >Director/Language and Culture Specialist >Battle Creek Language and Culture Center >7 Heritage Oak Lane #4 >Battle Creek, Mi. 49015 >www.bclanguageculture.com > > > What is an ESL Certificate? > > > > Diane Pecoraro > > MN Department of Education > > 1500 Highway 36 West > > Roseville, MN 55113 > > 651 582-8424 > > diane.pecoraro@state.mn.us > > Fax. 651 634-5154 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kate.diggins [mailto:kate.diggins@slc.k12.ut.us] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:43 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9963] Re: question on intensity of >instruction and > > teacher qualification > > > > Hi, Lisa! > > > > I'm with Guadalupe Schools in Salt Lake City. Private non-profit >that > > utilizes community volunteers on site to deliver instruction to small >groups > > > > of low-income adult immigrants. We provide ESL and US Citizenship. > > > > Intensity: 4 hours per week, 48 weeks per year. > > > > Qualifications: Minimum would be an ESL Certificate, although an MA- >TESL is > > > > preferred. On our staff of 6 persons, we have 4 with MA-TESLs, one >with an > > ESL Certificate, and one without qualifications who has been with the > > program since its inception many years ago. > > > > Many thanks for your hard work! > > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > > From: "Lisa Soricone" <soricoli@gse.harvard.edu> > > To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> > > Sent: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:21:05 -0500 (EST) > > Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9961] question on intensity of instruction and >teacher > > qualification > > > > > Hello -- > > > As some of you may already know, a team of researchers at the > > > National Center for the Study of Adult Learning and Literacy >(NCSALL) > > > is currently developing an evidence- or research-based model for > > > adult basic education programs. In the course of our work, two > > > issues have come up, around which I would appreciate some feedback > > > from people working in the field: > > > > > > 1) intensity of instruction > > > What do your programs tend to look like, with respect to the > > > intensity of instruction offered -- that is, how many hours are > > > provided per week, for how many weeks in the year? > > > > > > 2) teacher qualification > > > We are trying to move beyond simply saying that programs need to > > > hired "qualified staff." What exactly does it mean to be a > > > qualified teacher/administrator/counselor in ABE? More >specifically, > > > what do you consider the most essential qualifications for ABE > > > instructors in general? GED instructors? ESOL instructors? ABE > > administrators? > > > ABE counselors? > > > > > > I appreciate your sharing your thoughts on these issues and look > > > forward to hearing from you. > > > > > > Lisa Soricone > > > Research Associate > > > National Center for the Study of Adult Learning and Literacy > > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > >-- >CoreComm Webmail. >http://home.core.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Be more informed. Be more connected. Be more PBS. >Become a member of your PBS station today. >www.pbs.org > >__________________________________________________________ > >_________________________________________________________________ > >This email may contain material that is confidential or proprietary to PBS >and is intended solely for use by the intended recipient. Any review, >reliance or distribution of such material by others, or forwarding of such >material without express permission, is strictly prohibited. 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