[NIFL-ESL:9938] Re: Staff Diversity in ABE ESOL Programs

From: Laurie Ketzenberg (lketzenberg@resolutionpictures.com)
Date: Thu Feb 19 2004 - 11:06:37 EST


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Is there any reason to think David's experience couldn't transfer to L2 role
models?  That is, individuals from diverse linguistic backgrounds becoming
mentors?

> From: "Lynne Weintraub" <lynneweintraub@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:42:00 -0500 (EST)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9937] Re: Staff Diversity in ABE ESOL Programs
> 
> David--this is a good example in a native speaker ABE context, but I think
> the issues in ESL programs (especially those serving multi-ethnic
> communities) are a little different. Would you offer an example that relates
> more to ESL?
> 
> 
>> From: David Rosen <djrosen@comcast.net>
>> Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
>> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
>> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9935] Re: Staff Diversity in ABE ESOL Programs
>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:18:09 -0500 (EST)
>> 
>> John and Maurice,
>> 
>> I would like to suggest why staff diversity is important in achieving
>> quality.  To do so, let me give one example. Many adult literacy programs
>> have difficulty recruiting/attracting and retaining African American male
>> adult learners. A community-based program I have visited in Boston,
>> actively concerned to address this problem, has hired several
>> well-qualified African American male teachers, some of whom have also been
>> in circumstances similar to the students they have recruited.  They are
>> good teachers, good role models, and they can understand and empathize from
>> experience.  So far -- in its second or third  year now, the program has a
>> 100% retention rate.
>> 
>> 
>> David J. Rosen
>> djrosen@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 09:51 AM, John Kamplain wrote:
>> 
>>> Maurice,
>>> 
>>> Well, I would say that it's a sometimes difficult thing to strive for,
>>> this "...goal that staff
>>> reflect similar cultural, racial/ethnic, and linguistic background as
>>> that of the student population."
>>> 
>>> For example, at Albany Park Community Center's Literacy Program (where
>>> I'm a teacher and coordinator) we have a student body that represents 30
>>> different languages and almost as many different countries; as well, the
>>> surrounding neighborhood we serve is the most ethnically diverse in the
>>> city of Chicago. Our teaching and administrative staff doesn't come
>>> anywhere near representing the diversity of the population, and yet
>>> we're one of the best run agencies in the state with one of the best
>>> retention and success rates. I can't speak for the hiring practices of
>>> our administrators, but it seems to me that although I know they're not
>>> in any way against diversity, they've always concerned themselves with
>>> hiring the best person for the best job. In my humble opinion,
>>> government agencies should be more concerned that funds are being spent
>>> on qualified teachers and programs and not on whether or not there's a
>>> quota being met.
>>> 
>>> I will say that a positive side of the issue Maria is bringing up is
>>> that I'm now interested in the policies of my own state's programs. I've
>>> heard anecdotal evidence from teachers in Chicago Public Schools as well
>>> as within the community college system in Chicago that if you don't meet
>>> a certain ethnic "profile" your chances of getting the job are pretty
>>> slim. And that's a sad statement to make no matter which profile they're
>>> pushing.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, this an interesting topic and I look forward to reading on. I'm
>>> particularly curious if anyone has read any study that establishes a
>>> positive correlation between good teaching and matching diverse staff to
>>> diverse groups.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf
>>>> Of m.white
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:33 PM
>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list
>>>> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9933] Re: Staff Diversity in ABE ESOL Programs
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> No one would disagree that good teaching isn't based on skin
>>>> color.  Your thoughts on the larger issue Maria brought up
>>>> would be interesting to read.
>>>> 
>>>> Maurice White
>>>> 
>>>> John Kamplain wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I always thought that teaching (like anything else) wasn't
>>>> based on a
>>>>> person's skin color but how well they teach?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> m.white
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:27 PM
>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list
>>>>>> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9930] Re: Staff Diversity in ABE ESOL Programs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Maria,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is not a non-issue.  I brought this subject up at a recent
>>>>>> strategic planning meeting for adult education here in Kentucky.
>>>>>> The state is serving an increasingly more diverse adult
>>>> population,
>>>>>> but that diversity is not relected in the overall
>>>> staffing patterns
>>>>>> - this includes the administration and the people in the field.
>>>>>> However, there are currently efforts in progress to address this
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As an African-American of mixed heritage, and the ESOL
>>>> professional
>>>>>> development specialist for adult education in Kentucky, I
>>>> am keenly
>>>>>> aware of the situation. Over the last year of conducting
>>>> a variety
>>>>>> of training workshops for ESOL practitioners and program
>>>>>> supervisors, I have had the pleasure of working with hundreds of
>>>>>> wonderfully dedicated professionals - two of them have
>>>> been Hispanic
>>>>>> and one of them has been African-American.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are many good reasons why people are drawn to this
>>>> field, and
>>>>>> as was mentioned by another respondent, there's an equal
>>>> number of
>>>>>> reasons why this profession does not top the "1st choice"
>>>> list.  For
>>>>>> adult students of color, this means there is a paucity of
>>>>>> professional who they can fully identify with. We know
>>>> how this may
>>>>>> affect motivation, retention, and success in our programs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> These are just a few thoughts.  A growing group, one of
>>>> the caucuses
>>>>>> of TESOL is International Black Professionals & Friends
>>>> in TESOL.
>>>>>> Diversity among ESOL professionals is at the forefront of their
>>>>>> agenda.  I'll pass on the names and email addresses of
>>>> the current
>>>>>> chair & co-chair of IBPFT:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shondel Nero, Chair                neros@stjohns.edu    or
>>>>>> snero@earthlink.net
>>>>>> Khadar Bashir-Ali, Co-Chair    khadarbashir_ali@hotmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck! Maria.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maurice White
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maria Elena Gonzalez wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A week or so ago I posted a message inquiring about the
>>>>>> issue of staff
>>>>>>> diversity in ESOL programs for adults.  I am looking for
>>>>>> information
>>>>>>> on how other states, programs, or individuals might have dealt
>>>>>>> with this issue. Except for one person who wrote directly to me
>>>>>> asking that
>>>>>>> I post any information that I receive to the entire list,
>>>>>> no one has
>>>>>>> responded.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So now I'm pushing the envelope a little bit and
>>>> asking:  Is this
>>>>>>> a non-issue?  In Massachusetts, the Quality Indicators for
>>>>>> ABE Programs
>>>>>>> funded by DOE include under Program Management and
>>>>>> Accountability that
>>>>>>> programs show progress "...toward the goal that staff
>>>>>> reflect similar
>>>>>>> cultural, racial/ethnic, and linguistic background as
>>>> that of the
>>>>>>> student population." It has been difficult for many programs to
>>>>>>> achieve this goal and that is why the Massachusetts System
>>>>>> for Adult
>>>>>>> Basic Education Support (SABES) is currently
>>>> researching promising
>>>>>>> practices in the hiring and retention of diverse staff
>>>> in ABE/ESOL
>>>>>>> programs.  We are planning to talk directly to programs
>>>> across the
>>>>>>> state who have implemented such policies but are also looking
>>>>>>> nationally for similar information.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do you think?  Does your program have a diverse staff?
>>>>>> If so, why is
>>>>>>> it so?  If not, why do you think it's so?   Does your state
>>>>>> have a similar
>>>>>>> goal for state-funded DOE programs?  If so, are they posted
>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>> so I can access the information?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can respond directly to me (email below) or to the
>>>>>> entire list.
>>>>>>> If responding directly to me, please indicate if I may
>>>>>> share your answer with
>>>>>>> others.   Thank you very much for your help.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maria E. Gonzalez
>>>>>>> SABES Coordinator
>>>>>>> Adult Literacy Resource Institute/Boston
>>>>>>> SABES Regional Center
>>>>>>> 617-782-8956, X15
>>>>>>> 617-782-9011 (fax)
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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