Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id iB1NsHF29290; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:54:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:54:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <BDD3C2EE.6AAD%lketzenberg@resolutionpictures.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Laurie Ketzenberg <lketzenberg@resolutionpictures.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:10615] Re: [SPAM] Defending Workplace ESL X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 2090 Lines: 53 William, As you probably know, many of the benefits are intangible, especially in the short run. Workers' feeling they're valued by their employer is a plus. Providing this opportunity likely fosters an atmosphere of good will and sends an important message to employees that they're worth the investment. While "the bottom line" is probably the driving force behind the company's motivation, they can only be profitable if their employees have opportunities for professional development. Who see the students making progress? Do you? What kind of progress? Do the students themselves indicate they are learning and developing their English competency? If so, in what ways? If not, why? Do the managers have any idea how long it takes to learn another language? What are their expectations? Depending on how long you've been at it, you might discuss your endeavor qualitatively and suggest ways it fits into the workers' and the company's objectives. Regardless, the managers need to realize there is no quick fix and they need to stick with the program in order to realize benefits in the long term. Good luck and let us know how the meeting goes! Laurie > From: Peter MacMonagle <Peter.MacMonagle@cpcc.edu> > Reply-To: <nifl-esl@nifl.gov> > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:23:52 -0500 (EST) > To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> > Subject: [SPAM] [NIFL-ESL:10613] Defending Workplace ESL > > To the Group, > > I need a little help. > > I am going to have a meeting with managers at one of the companies I teach at. > They don't think the ESL program benefits the company, although there are > people who can see the students making progress. > > If anyone has information on how ESL programs benefit companies, their bottom > line, productivity, etc. I would be grateful for the assistance. > > Wm. Peter MacMonagle, M.Ed. > Central Piedmont Community College > � > "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new > discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!') but rather 'hmm....that's > funny...'" ���-�Isaac Asimov.
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