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[EnglishLanguage 2920] Re: English language learners

Andrea Wilder

andreawilder at comcast.net
Fri Sep 26 09:44:17 EDT 2008


Hi Linda,

I am sure that on-line discussions lead to simplification, as you
suggest. You can tell that many of the simplifications raise my
hackles. This happens especially around American history. I do
think it is very important--do I say critical?--for real knowledge
to be taught. I also think it is my obligation as a list member to
point to facts if I think I have them. I am happy to be challenged
and to be corrected if I am wrong. I also thank any list members who
correct anything I say that is incorrect, so--thank you!

Now, maybe we would agree and maybe we wouldn't if we were sitting
around over coffee. One of the glories of these NIFL sites is that
they provide SPACE to have many points of view expressed. Often
divergent views are suppressed when people meet, and a kind of
hierarchy of opinion results, with not all voices heard.

Andrea:)

On Sep 25, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Sally Bishop wrote:


> Yes!!!

>

> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Lynda Terrill <lterrill at cal.org>

> wrote:

> Dear subscribers,

>

> It might be productive for the list to refocus on sharing

> principles and strategies for getting to know who the learners

> are-- including their needs, goals as well as language

> proficiencies, demographic, and cultural backgrounds.

>

> I'm wondering whether the nature of online discussions themselves

> may sometimes lead to simplification (or over-simplification) of

> complex issues. A word or a phrase or an expressed idea may seem

> more immutable in print than it might be in real life. I have

> little doubt that if we met in real time at a café, we would find

> that we have much in common. If this imaginary meeting were like

> almost all of the conversations I've had with other adult ESL

> practitioners, we'd all be talking with respect, admiration, and

> concern for the adult English language learners we work with.

>

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Lynda Terrill

> List moderator

> lterrill at cal.org

>

>

>

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