The multilevel classroom, techniques and assessments would be an
important topic of discussion for me.


Ms. Gary Bartolina, Program Manager
Adult Education Basics
NYS & CSEA  Partnership for Education & Training
Corporate Plaza East - Suite 502
240 Washington Avenue Extension
Albany, NY 12203
Phone: 518-473-4990
Fax: 518-473-9457
bartolinag at nyscseapartnership.org
www.nyscseapartnership.org 
"A love affair with knowledge will never end in heartbreak."
(Michael Garrett Marino) 
Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments, may be
confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended
only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from
someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate,
copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the
sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your
system.


-----Original Message-----
From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Grant, Sandra
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:11 PM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List; Kearney Lykins
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3089] Re: OVAE project on Transitions

Miriam-- Just from my point of view -- I think what this is doing is
telling the field that we have to do MORE than just get them through
language training, GED or high school diploma. We need to start helping
them more beyond that into post-secondary training of some type. It
might be vocational training or college level training. But somehow we
need to start helping them move beyond what we can offer to them. It not
saying that we aren't doing what needs to be done or that our programs
are viable but more has to happen on our end to help students meet the
new job markets that are out there and coming.

Sandra Grant

-----Original Message-----
From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Miriam Burt
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:58 PM
To: Kearney Lykins; The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3087] Re: OVAE project on Transitions

Kearney makes an interesting point. It would be great if we could hear
from someone from OVAE or AIR who works on this project; transistioning
is certainly a current topic of interest for those working with adult
English language learners. Thoughts, anyone?   

Miriam Burt
Moderator, LINCS Discussion list, Adult English Language Learners
mburt at cal.org

   

-----Original Message-----
From: Kearney Lykins [mailto:kearney_lykins at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:53 PM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EnglishLanguage 3085] OVAE project on Transitions

Miriam,
 
I do not understand something. Why would ED want to encourage adult
english language learners to complete a program that "is no longer
adequate for 21st century workforce demands" ? 

 

Regards,

 

Kearney


 
 
________________________________

From: Miriam Burt <mburt at cal.org>
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
<englishlanguage at nifl.gov>
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 3:12:33 PM
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3085] OVAE project on Transitions


Liz (and others) ,
The following information may be of interest to you 
 

Recognizing that a high school diploma or equivalency diploma is no
longer adequate for 21st century workforce demands, the U.S. Department
of Educatiton (ED), Office of Vocational and Adult Education (OVAE)  is
investing in a project called Transitioning English Language Learners in
collaboration with the American Institutes for Research, in Washington,
DC. The purpose of the project is for ED to obtain detailed, data-rich
descriptions regarding the state of practice in assisting adult English
language learners in improving reading and writing skills so that they
can complete a high school equivalency program. 

Over the course of the two years of the contract, the project will:

* Conduct an environmental scan to identify instructional and
programmatic strategies that help adult ELLs to transition from ESL to
ABE and ASE programs and use these strategies to create site selection
criteria;

* Collect information to document the implementation and effectiveness
of these transition strategies in local adult education programs in
three states;

* Synthesize the information collected in a report to ED that includes
recommendations for next steps for promoting the transition of adult
ELLs from ESL to ABE and ASE programs so that these adult ELLs can
attain a high school equivalency credential and be prepared for
postsecondary education and the demands of the 21st century workforce;

Information on the progress of this project will be available on OVAE's
Web site, under the Division of Adult Education and Literacy.

 
Miriam
****
Miriam Burt
Moderator, LINCS discussion list on Adult English Language Learners
mburt at cal.org
 
 

 

________________________________

	From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of
elizabeth.andress at spps.org
	Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:59 AM
	To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
	Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3080] Re: Suggestions for targeted
discussions/focused topics for upcoming quarter and year sought
	
	

	Two areas I'm esp. interested in / concerned about, as is our
program overall: 
	
	- how do we prepare learners to transition successfully to
post-secondary education and/or livable-wage employment?  what models
are there out there (e.g., the medical language class noted recently)
that are being tried now, and what are we learning from them? 
	
	- how do we successfully work with low-lit language learners
once they get into high-beginning and intermediate ESL classes?  The
obstacles to effective learning persist at these levels, but most
textbooks at these levels assume literacy, and use complex print to
teach primarily language acquisition.  Are there good texts and/or
methods for continuing to focus on literacy development for these
learners?  And how do we do this well when they are mixed in, of course,
with high-lit students who respond well to the standard curriculum and
move through the levels.  I have some of these students who are
stagnating in my high-beginning class, even th ough I'm a good teacher
in many ways. 
	
	Liz Andress, St. Paul, MN 
	
	
	
	
	"Kinerney, Donna" <Donna.Kinerney at montgomerycollege.edu>
Sent by: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov 

10/31/2008 03:31 PM 
Please respond to The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List



        
        To:        "The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List"
<englishlanguage at nifl.gov> 
        cc:         
        Subject:        [EnglishLanguage 3075] Re: Suggestions for
targeted        discussions/focused topics for upcoming quarter and year
sought	



	Hi Miriam, 
	I threw this out to NIFL staff a while back, but I still think
it would be worth raising somewhere - how about something on program
administration as a whole? Actually I think it's worthy of a separate
list since there is such a need for leadership training/supervisory
training for ESOL folks ... 
	Thanks, 
	Donna 
	  
	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
	Donna Kinerney, Ph.D. 
	Instructional Dean 
	Adult ESOL & Literacy Programs 
	Montgomery College 
	Wheaton Westfield South 
	11002 Veirs Mill Rd., Suite 210 
	Wheaton, MD 20902 
	  
	Voice   301-962-8950 
	Fax       240-567-8977 
	  
	http://www.montgomerycollege.edu/wdce/aelg
<http://www.montgomerycollege.edu/wdce/aelg>  
	  

________________________________


	From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Miriam Burt
	Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 3:42 PM
	To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List;
dtaylor at buffalo.edu
	Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3074] Suggestions for targeted
discussions/focused topics for upcoming quarter and year sought 
	  
	Hello, everyone. 
	  
	Yesterday I wrote that I would be seeking suggestions from you
all today as to topics you would like to see us forcus on in the
upcoming months. This targeted discussion could mean a guest facilitator
shares ideas and answers questions on a specific topic. Or it could be a
week or so when some subscribers decide to read a certain article or
topic to discuss as a group.   
	  
	In the last couple of years there have been guest facilitators
discussing topics such as preparing adult English language learners for
the employment, working with literacy level learners, and teaching
writing to adult English language learners. 
	  
	Other topics mentioned in the past included learner persistence,
use of technology in professional development, use of technology in
learner instruction, the multlilevel classroom, and working with
Engllish language learners in classes with native speakers. 
	  
	What suggestions do you have for topics? 
	  
	I'd like your input by next Friday, November 7 - as I need to
submit a plan the following week. There are close to 900 of you out
there, so I hope to hear from some of you, including those who don't
often post to the list. What would you like to focus on? 
	  
	Thanks. I look forward to hearing from you. 
	Miriam 
	********* 
	Miriam Burt 
	NIFL Discussion List Moderator 
	Adult English Language Learners 
	mburt at cal.org <mailto:mburt at cal.org>  
	  
	 ----------------------------------------------------
	National Institute for Literacy
	Adult English Language Learners mailing list
	EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov
	To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go
to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage
	Email delivered to elizabeth.andress at spps.org 
	
	


----------------------------------------------------
National Institute for Literacy
Adult English Language Learners mailing list
EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov
To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to
http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage
Email delivered to sandra.grant at schools.utah.gov
----------------------------------------------------
National Institute for Literacy
Adult English Language Learners mailing list
EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov
To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to
http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage
Email delivered to bartolinag at nyscseapartnership.org