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[EnglishLanguage 2122] Re: Topics for the list 2007, 2008

Kirsten Schaetzel

kschaetzel at cal.org
Thu Feb 7 14:57:18 EST 2008


These two briefs, published by Center for Applied Linguistics staff, may
be helpful on the topic of literacy:

One is on different literacy backgrounds:
.http://www.cal.org/caela/esl_resources/digests/reading.html

The other is about the differences in ABE and ESL reading. It has the
terms you mention, Sally, in it, with definitions:
http://www.cal.org/caela/esl_resources/briefs/readingdif.html

Kirsten


Kirsten Schaetzel, Ph.D.
Center for Adult English Language Acquisition
Center for Applied Linguistics
4646 40th St. NW
Washington, DC 20016
Telephone: 202-355-1523
Fax: 202-362-3740 or 202-373-7204


-----Original Message-----
From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Sally Bishop
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:05 PM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2118] Re: Topics for the list 2007, 2008

Literacy: The ability to read or write OR competence or knowledge in
a specified area such as computer literacy OR.....? I would also
like to know what is the accepted term for those who are not literate
i.e. are they pre-literate, ill-literate, non-literate, low literate,
etc.?

Sally


On Feb 7, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Aderman Elizabeth M (79D755) wrote:


> I'm very concerned about Literacy, too. It's important we bring in the



> subject of PHONICS if we are going to help ELLs READ. Margo

> DelliCarpini of Lehman College, NYC puts in phonics under PHONOLOGICAL



> AWARENESS. How about this, there may be many ways to make the sound of



> aw- as in ball, caught, bought, long. To teach beginning phonics, we

> can start with the phonogram -all-and teach students to recognize the

> sound-syllable correspondence in the syllables all, ball, fall, call,

> mall. What do you do about phonics?

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Sally Bishop

> Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 11:04 AM

> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2106] Re: Topics for the list 2007, 2008

>

>

> I have been hoping for this for a long time.

>

> SB

>

> On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Ted Klein wrote:

>

>

> Lynda,

>

> I would like to see a serious discussion on the current

meaning(s) of

> the word "literacy." I recently polled a number of my long-term ESL

> colleagues and most of us, including yours truly, tend to accept the

> semantically and historically original meaning, "the ability to read

> and write." Now the limits seem to be changing and expanding quite a

> bit. Either we need extensive agreement on something that is mutually

> realistic or we need to clarify and make it "graphic literacy,"

> "communication literacy," and/or something more tangible. If we are

> going to talk about it, we need to know what it really is. When I

> first heard of NIFL, I thought that it was all about reading, which

> interests me less than language teaching methodologies, techniques,

> approaches, the application of phonology, cultural factors and

> measurement in total L2 acquisition. NIFL seems to represent much more



> than my original interpretation.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Ted Klein

> Lake Travis in Texas

> www.tedklein-ESL.com <http://www.tedklein-esl.com/>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> From: Lynda Terrill <mailto:lterrill at cal.org>

> To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov

> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:48 AM

> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2101] Topics for the list

2007, 2008

>

>

> Dear subscribers,

>

> I'd like to sum up the topics the list discussed last

year and also

> to look forward to possible topics of discussion this year on the

> list.

>

> First, I want to say that my favorite thing about this

list

> community is that so many of you bring up topics of interest and

> concern and so many of you respond so quickly. In fact, this is a

> subscriber -centered list and, to me, that makes this list a powerful

> tool.

>

> In 2007, we had several successful guest facilitated

discussions and

> we spent some time in the fall sharing resources in a focused and

> reflective way, but you brought up and worked on many other important



> topics as well

>

> Last year there were guest facilitated discussions on

>

> * workplace ESL

> * teaching writing to adult English language

learners

> * adult ESL content standards

> * practical strategies for working with

literacy-level learners.

>

>

> In addition to the focused sharing of resources, we also

had the

> yearly discussion and sharing about TESOL/COABE sessions (as we will

> again).

>

> Other topics you brought up-- which were sometimes part

of the above

> discussions or offshoots of them-- included the following:

>

> * immigration, citizenship preparation, and

EL/civics

> * native language literacy

> * bilingual classes

> * phonemics and pronunciation\

> * reading aloud in adult ESL classes

> * multilevel classes;

> * vocabulary acquisition

> * offering a menu of classes rather than general

ESL classes;

> * technology and distance learning.

>

>

> By February 11, will you send your suggestions to the

list for

> "special" discussions?

>

> Thanks, and, as always, please bring to the list issues

related

> to teaching adult ESL as they come up. .

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Lynda Terrill

> List moderator

> lterrill at cal.org

>

>

>

>

>

>

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