Sheryl,

 

That's fine with me.  Perhaps it will spur a useful conversation.

 

Michael Tate

 

From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Sheryl Rogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:44 AM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2605] Re: writing lessons

 

Good morning Michael,

 

I concur heartily with your message.  I have a sense that leaning on
texts exacerbates the frustration and futility students experience as
learners.   In addition, I believe that leaning on a text, dampens a
teacher's own creativity and energy for learning.  

 

Thanks so much!   Would you mind if I forwarded this message to my
supervisor, our dean for academic instruction, Mike Brandstetter? 

 

Sheryl Rogel
English Instructor
Bates Technical College
1101 Yakima Ave S
Tacoma, WA   98498
253-680-7267 

"Every study of young writers I've done in the last twenty years has
underestimated what they can do; in fact, we know very little about the
human potential for writing."  Donald Graves

 

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From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Michael Tate
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:53 AM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2604] Re: writing lessons

 

Paul, 

 

I noticed your comment about textbooks, and I wanted to share how
millennials may see textbooks.  

 


>From what I have read and heard,  millennials  expect their teachers to

use materials fresh from the web rather than from a textbook which they
see a dated, manipulated,  and even as a barrier to learning.  They seem
to see textbooks as "canned" and they want "homemade".  They appear to
put a high value on "contemporaneous" information unlike earlier
generations who valued information that has "stood the test of time."  

 

And, for college students who are facing higher tuitions, and lagging
financial aid, the huge prices on textbooks just fuel the fire.

 

Since basic skills students lag in the uptake of  new technology, basic
skills millennials may behave somewhat differently than their peers, but
I think they share (or will come to share) their generation's
expectations about classroom materials.   I think this is important for
how our work may change in the near future.

 

Michael Tate

 

From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Paul Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:25 PM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 2601] writing lessons

 

I just sent out samples of my new lessons to everyone who requested
them. Because there were attachments in the email, the message may end
up in the Spam or bulk mail box. So if you are expecting anything from
me and don't get it as of today, please check, or email me back.

I began to write my texts over 20 years ago when I started teaching
adult  ESL in Mexico. I wrote my own becaue I could not find appropriate
material anywhere. 

In my opininion students should all own a text and a bilingual
dictionary.

For one thing, it helps them take the course seriously and I think that
it increases interest/attendance.

Paul Rogers

pumarosa21 at yahoo.com

 

  

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