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[Assessment 1858] Re: [EnglishLanguage 4210] Re: CTB McGraw-Hill's Terra Nova (clarificiation)
Combs, Kay
Kay.Combs at scott.kyschools.usFri May 8 13:08:25 EDT 2009
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The BEST Literacy may not be the best tool to use because the highest
level of ESOL learners could essentially "test" out of this assessment.
I believe the CASAS would be more appropriate for these learners.
Kay Combs
Community Education Director
Center for Lifelong Learning
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Georgetown, KY 40324
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educational opportunities for individuals and families to achieve
success and build a strong community.
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On Behalf Of Piracha, Janet
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:57 PM
To: The Assessment Discussion List; 'The Adult EnglishLanguage Learners
Discussion List'
Cc: Kathi Bailey
Subject: [Assessment 1857] Re: [EnglishLanguage 4210] Re: CTB
McGraw-Hill's Terra Nova (clarificiation)
Hello to you all,
Since the REEP will no longer be used to report learner gains in our
state, we are looking for a reliable substitute to administer to our
higher level ESOL students (SPL 3-8). We have been considering the BEST
Literacy. Have any of you had any experience using this assessment?
Has anyone found an assessment for ESOL learner's writing skills
comparable to the REEP? Thanks for all of your insights and wonderful
"learning links"!
Janet
Janet Piracha
NE System for Adult Education Basic Support
Curriculum and Assessment Coordinator
Northern Essex Community College
45 Franklin St.
Lawrence, MA 01840
978-738-7304
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On Behalf Of Michael A. Gyori
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Cc: Kathi Bailey
Subject: [Assessment 1856] Re: [EnglishLanguage 4210] Re: CTB
McGraw-Hill's Terra Nova (clarificiation)
Hello everyone,
I'd like to clarify the direction I'm taking in researching tests for
ESL students. The TABE CLASE-E "only" measures English reading and
language skills and from what I have found out so far, is able to
measure up to 5.9 GLE. Higher scores may be out of the test's
measurable range. On the other hand, TerraNova CTBS tests all subject
areas of the G.E.D. test, is available for 1st through 12th grade
students, and is within measureable range up to 12.9+ GLE.
In addition to testing my student's English language/reading skills, I
also want to get a sense of their background knowledge, which commonly
derives from schooling in their L1 (in the sense of Cumming's common
underlying proficiency). My students' formal educational background is,
for me at least, an extremely important part of the information I
collect, because it appears to have considerable predictive value in
terms of how quickly they will learn, and which concepts are already
familiar to them in their L1. Typically, I find that teaching unknown
concepts in the L2 is more challenging than doing so in the L1, all the
more so because of language barriers.
I hope this helps, and I thank you for any and all feedback!
Michael
From: Michael A. Gyori [mailto:mgyori at mauilanguage.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:59 AM
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Subject: RE: [EnglishLanguage 4210] Re: CTB McGraw-Hill's Terra Nova
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for your e-mail!
The TABE ESL test is the TABE CLAS-E. A description of it can be found
at
http://www.ctb.com/products/product_summary.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=14
08474395292718&bmUID=1241722470142.
I am in touch with CTB McGraw-Hill about this test. My question in this
phase of my own research is specifically about the Terra Nova 2nd and
3rd Ed.
Also, is anybody familiar with the GAIN (see
http://www.wonderlic.com/education-solutions/adult-basic-education.aspx)
? If so, I'd also greatly appreciate your observations / comments.
Thank you so much!
Michael
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[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Grant, Sandra
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:36 AM
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Subject: [EnglishLanguage 4210] Re: CTB McGraw-Hill's Terra Nova
Michael-I don't know a whole lot about it but TABE is or has come out
with an ESL test. I know they were testing it in the last couple of
years, but I haven't heard the results. Does anyone know about this
test?
Sandra Grant
Utah State Office of Education
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[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Michael A. Gyori
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:01 PM
To: 'The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List'; The
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Subject: [EnglishLanguage 4209] CTB McGraw-Hill's Terra Nova
Greetings to all,
Has anyone used CTB McGraw-Hill's Terra Nova (2nd and 3rd Editions) with
adult ESL learners, and if so, what, if any, observations might you have
to share? I know the test is designed for Grades 1-12 learners. The
CBO I used to work at administered the first edition of this test to
prospective GED students, some of whom were adults. The CBO currently
uses TABE.
Thank you for any insights you may have!
Michael
Michael A. Gyori, M.A. TESOL
Owner-Teacher
Maui International Language School
Phone 808.205.2101 (U.S.A.)
Fax 808.891.2237 (U.S.A.)
E-mail mgyori at mauilanguage.com
Website www.mauilanguage.com
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