I am interested in knowing if anyone hires teachers in adult ESL programs 
(credit and noncredit) who hold the CELTA (Certificate in English Language 
Teaching to Adults ) certification.  For a description of CELTA go to this 
website:  http://www.teachinghouse.com/course/celta.html

Thanks, pb


Peter P. Balsamo, Ph.D.
Chief GED Examiner and Director
   of Community Outreach; Director of
   Project Success Grant
Luzerne County Community College
Corporate Learning Center
2 Public Square
Wilkes-Barre, PA  18701-1992
Phone:    570-822-3728
FAX:       570-822-6171
E-mail:    pbalsamo at luzerne.edu
www.luzerne.edu






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Kimberly and Glenda Lynn--thank you VERY much for sharing your 
information.  I believe Wisconsin has an arrangement very similar to that 
of Minnesota-- certification in K-12 ESOL permits a teacher to teach adult 
ESOL.  I agree with Kimberly that it is unfortunate that K-12 
certification is considered adequate--even desirable-- for teaching adult 
ESOL when those of us who have taught at both settings know the issues are 
often extremely different.   Even more important is that I believe adult 
ESOL educators should have a firm grounding in adult pedagogy as well as 
adult language acquisition. 

This information is VERY helpful to our thinking.  It is encouraging that 
there is an increasing expectation that adult educators will continue 
their PD and will be increasingly expected to have some training or 
education about teaching adults. 

Thanks again for helping us out!  Robin Lovrien Schwarz 


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly A. Johnson <kjohnson60 at gw.hamline.edu>
To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov
Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 5:01 pm
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 4003] Re: Credentialing for adult ESOL teachers

Hi there, Robin.  Things are pretty complicated up here in Minnesota! 
Adult 

Basic Education is housed within the K-12 system, so ABE ESL teachers 
working 

within an ABE program connected to a school system (this is the vast 
majority of 

our ABE programs) are required to have a valid teaching license (either a 
K-12 

license or an ABE license) OR they need to have an MA-TESOL.  For ESOL 
teachers 

working in ABE as part of smaller, community-based organizations, the 

organizations can determine necessary qualifications.  Some require a 
license 

and some do not.  One of the infuriating inequities in this system, in my 
view, 

is that a K-12 license -in any area- is enough to qualify a teacher to 
teach any 

ABE subject, including ESOL.  (Of course, the reverse is not true...you 
cannot 

teach K-12 with an ABE license.)



To maintain licensure, all licensed teachers are required to earn 125 CEUs 
every 

five years, and there are a couple of specific relicensure areas such as 

"reading" and "adapting curriculum to meet the need of diverse learners." 
I 

coordinate a program designed to provide professional development to ABE 

practitioners throughout MN and all of our PD options give teachers 

opportunities to earn CEUs.



One thing that we have done at my institution is create an 8-credit 
Certificate 

for Adult ESL (
http://www.hamline.edu/education/academics/certs/esl_adult.html 

).  The eight credits can be used to satisfy some CEU requirements and the 


certificate credits can be applied toward an MA-TESOL degree here at 
Hamline. 

We find that many teachers take the certificate courses just because they 
do not 

feel prepared to work with adult ESOL students, even if those teachers 
have no 

intention of continuing on for the MA.  BTW, these courses are all online 
and we 

do have practitioners from outside of MN who enroll.



There you go!  Let me know if you have questions,

Kimberly Johnson

ATLAS Coordinator (www.hamline.edu/atlas )

Hamline University

St Paul, MN






>>> <robinschwarz1 at aol.com> 3/5/2009 2:30 PM >>>


HI listers-- I am working with a group at my school to improve an in-house 


credentialing requirement the school has for teachers.? We are wondering 
what 

other schools. programs, states do about credentialing adult ESOL 
teachers.?? Do 

any of you have requirements for CEU's?? If so, are there specifications 
for 

those?? Do you or does anyone you know hire only teachers with some kind 
of 

credential or qualification that can be obtained externally?? Once hired, 
do 

teachers have to continue their PD to stay hired or get a raise??? 



I'd be really grateful for information and feedback on this issue. 



Robin Lovrien Schwarz 



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