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[EnglishLanguage 3547] Re: American food
Andrea Wilder
andreawilder at comcast.netThu Jan 22 15:11:24 EST 2009
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It could be, I don't know--like the adzuki beans. I like red bean
steamed buns, Chinese. Ben arrived here not knowing how to cook, at
all. She copied me in what I cooked to get by. Then she discovered
Asian markets. A month ago I bought a cook book (English) of simple
Thai recipes, now Ben can make the food she likes. I've taken
pictures of her cooking, also shoveling snow, and sent them to her
family. They are so surprised! Ben is proud of her growing
competence, her family is astonished. I follow her lead when it
comes to Thai and other Asian foods, and she follows mine when it is
a question of American food. Then we create cross-cultural recipes.
Andrea, happy eater
On Jan 22, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Leslie Petty wrote:
> Sounds to me like the red bean ice cream I've had in Japan, but
> they typically use adzuki beans (I think). They use red bean paste
> in a lot of pastries and it's wonderful (you can buy sweetened red
> bean paste at some Asian markets if you want to give it a try).
>
> Leslie
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Andrea Wilder
> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> My Thai student is Buddhist, so no beef.
>
> Last night I made coconut ice cream (american version) and we
> discussed what to add to the top--"red kidney beans," said Ben. I
> can't quite get there yet. "Very delicious" says Ben.
>
> Andrea :)
>
> On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Julie Howard wrote:
>
> > I'm glad you brought up the topic of American food. We have a lot of
> > variety, but, sadly, many adults in my ESL classes have only
> > encountered
> > burgers and fries. Corn bread, navy bean soup, sweet potatoes,
> tossed
> > green salads, brownies, and grilled cheese sandwiches were some
> of my
> > homemade favorites while growing up in a small city in the Midwest.
> > (If
> > I ate meat, I suppose I would mention beef stew, tuna noodle
> > casserole,
> > and BLTs.) Then, of course, there are all the other wonderful ethnic
> > cuisines from which we can choose, some authentic and some
> adapted to
> > American tastes.
> >
> > I was once very surprised when a group of Eastern European students
> > asked me how to prepare a baked potato and it became clear that
> > recipes
> > for ESL classes don't have to be unusual or complex. It took some
> > preparation, but for a few classes, and with the participation of
> some
> > of my colleagues and friends, my students contacted and obtained
> > simple
> > recipes from Americans to share with their peers and me.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > englishlanguage-request at nifl.gov
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> > Subject: EnglishLanguage Digest, Vol 40, Issue 42
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. [EnglishLanguage 3524] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > (Gary Bartolina)
> > 2. [EnglishLanguage 3525] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > (Andrea Wilder)
> > 3. [EnglishLanguage 3526] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > (Leslie Petty)
> > 4. [EnglishLanguage 3527] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > (Andrea Wilder)
> > 5. [EnglishLanguage 3528] Job opportunity (Miriam Burt)
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:19:34 -0500
> > From: "Gary Bartolina" <BartolinaG at NYSCSEAPARTNERSHIP.ORG>
> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3524] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > To: "The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List"
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> >
> > You can always try Mexican/American Chili, or Fajitas, and or any
> > Creole
> > dishes from Louisiana.
> >
> >
> > Ms. Gary Bartolina, Program Manager
> > Adult Education Basics
> > NYS & CSEA Partnership for Education & Training
> > Corporate Plaza East - Suite 502
> > 240 Washington Avenue Extension
> > Albany, NY 12203
> > Phone: 518-473-4990
> > Fax: 518-473-9457
> > bartolinag at nyscseapartnership.org
> > <mailto:bartolinag at nyscseapartnership.org>
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> > From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
> > [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Wilder
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:43 PM
> > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3520] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> >
> > Steve and others--
> >
> > Another language exchange! My Thai student has picked up on the
> > rhythm
> > of English, just as you suggested she should, so thank you very
> much.
> > Now here's the request, to anyone reading this. (I think the
> subject
> > line covers this.) When I have students from other countries living
> > here, I am always interested in their recipes and their food--
> today my
> > Thai student said all she knew about American food was steak,
> turkey,
> > and apple pie! I can make a little booklet of American recipes for
> > her--what would this list suggest? We both like cooking
> together. She
> > likes spicy food best, but I don't want to limit the cookbook to
> > spicy.
> > Thanks for your ideas!
> >
> > Andrea :)
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrea,
> >
> > There are many language exchange sites on the web. LingQ is one, but
> > LingQ also has lots of language content and a vocabulary review
> engine
> > built in. That would be cheaper and more efficient and more
> > interesting,
> > especially if you already have some knowledge of the language. I
> > spend
> > most of my Russian study time listening on an Ipod while
> cleaning the
> > kitchen or driving etc.. I occasionally join Russian
> conversations via
> > Skype, but I earn back the cost by tutoring in English, so it is a
> > wash.
> >
> > Steve
> > www.lingq.com
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Andrea Wilder
> > <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Steve--Here's my problem. I had sort of adequate French years ago.
> > Now
> > I want to upgrade without going to France. My time is so tight--
> > that's
> > why I thought of a CD/DVD program. Maybe also I can join a
> > conversational group here.
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > My son used it for Japanese and found it very limited in terms of
> > vocabulary covered, and annoying in terms of the exercizes. I
> believe
> > the starter courses I mentioned are more effective and less
> expensive.
> > In any case, they just get you started.
> >
> > Steve
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Andrea Wilder
> > <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Steve--Have you used Rosetta Stone?
> >
> > Andrea
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > You can buy a starter course for a language, or borrow one at the
> > library. Teach Yourself, Colloquial, Assimil, Pimsleur, these are
> > just a
> > few. To go further in a language, there is an abundance of
> content on
> > the web, podcasts, radio stations and the like. At first you have to
> > listen repeatedly to a limit range of content, but in time, as you
> > understand better, you do not listen as often and instead cover
> more
> > and more interesting content. I do not worry about how to pronounce
> > things until I have been listening for at least 6 months or more.
> >
> > For my Russian I have enjoyed audio books, and right now especially
> > enjoy a wonderful source of radio interviews complete with
> > transcripts.
> > both of which are available for free download daily.
> >
> > Much of this kind of content is available in our language
> libraries at
> > LingQ, and anything that is not free of copyright can be still
> > imported
> > into t he system for pesonal use, but cannot be shared.
> >
> > The Internet and the MP3 player have exploded the opportunities for
> > finding sound content and carrying it with you. Language labs have
> > been
> > made obsolete.
> >
> > Steve Kaufmann
> > www.lingq.com
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Andrea Wilder
> > <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Steve--"Listening to recordings," what ones are you listening to?
> > Programs? Radio?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Andrea :)
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Do you recommend different writing systems for each regional
> > accent? In French this would mean a Quebecois writing system,a
> > Parisian writing system, a Toulouse writing system, or in English a
> > Texas writing system, a London writing system, a Boston writing
> > system,
> > a Yorkshire writing system and all the shades of difference in
> > between.
> >
> > Listening to recordings is more useful. I have studied 12
> > languages and only rely on the sound. I never use any phonetic
> > script. I
> > do not trust them. I trust what I hear, and then I connect that
> to the
> > script that I see.
> >
> > I admire your enthusiasm but I do not understand the
> usefulness
> > of truespel.
> >
> > Steve Kaufmann
> > www.lingq.com
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> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:38:09 -0500
> > From: Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net>
> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3525] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> > <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>, "Gary Bartolina"
> > <BartolinaG at NYSCSEAPARTNERSHIP.ORG>
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> >
> > Thanks Ujwala, Steve and Gary!
> >
> > These are all wonderful ideas!!
> >
> > I now remember popovers... I'll make them maybe Saturday breakfast,
> > put them in the book.
> >
> > Andrea :)
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Gary Bartolina wrote:
> >
> >> You can always try Mexican/American Chili, or Fajitas, and or any
> >> Creole dishes from Louisiana.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ms. Gary Bartolina, Program Manager
> >> Adult Education Basics
> >> NYS & CSEA Partnership for Education & Training
> >> Corporate Plaza East - Suite 502
> >> 240 Washington Avenue Extension
> >> Albany, NY 12203
> >> Phone: 518-473-4990
> >> Fax: 518-473-9457
> >> bartolinag at nyscseapartnership.org
> >> www.nyscseapartnership.org
> >> "A love affair with knowledge will never end in heartbreak."
> >> (Michael Garrett Marino)
> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments, may
> >> be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is
> >> intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in
> >> error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do
> >> not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its
> >> attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail
> >> and delete the e-mail from your system.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:englishlanguage-
> >> bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Andrea Wilder
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:43 PM
> >> To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> >> Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3520] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve and others--
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Another language exchange! My Thai student has picked up on the
> >> rhythm of English, just as you suggested she should, so thank you
> >> very much. Now here's the request, to anyone reading this. (I
> >> think the subject line covers this.) When I have students from
> >> other countries living here, I am always interested in their
> >> recipes and their food--today my Thai student said all she knew
> >> about American food was steak, turkey, and apple pie! I can make a
> >> little booklet of American recipes for her--what would this list
> >> suggest? We both like cooking together. She likes spicy food best,
> >> but I don't want to limit the cookbook to spicy. Thanks for your
> >> ideas!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea,
> >>
> >> There are many language exchange sites on the web. LingQ is one,
> >> but LingQ also has lots of language content and a vocabulary review
> >> engine built in. That would be cheaper and more efficient and more
> >> interesting, especially if you already have some knowledge of the
> >> language. I spend most of my Russian study time listening on an
> >> Ipod while cleaning the kitchen or driving etc.. I occasionally
> >> join Russian conversations via Skype, but I earn back the cost by
> >> tutoring in English, so it is a wash.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >> www.lingq.com
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Andrea Wilder
> >> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve--Here's my problem. I had sort of adequate French years ago.
> >> Now I want to upgrade without going to France. My time is so
> >> tight--that's why I thought of a CD/DVD program. Maybe also I can
> >> join a conversational group here.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My son used it for Japanese and found it very limited in terms of
> >> vocabulary covered, and annoying in terms of the exercizes. I
> >> believe the starter courses I mentioned are more effective and less
> >> expensive. In any case, they just get you started.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Andrea Wilder
> >> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve--Have you used Rosetta Stone?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You can buy a starter course for a language, or borrow one at the
> >> library. Teach Yourself, Colloquial, Assimil, Pimsleur, these are
> >> just a few. To go further in a language, there is an abundance of
> >> content on the web, podcasts, radio stations and the like. At first
> >> you have to listen repeatedly to a limit range of content, but in
> >> time, as you understand better, you do not listen as often and
> >> instead cover more and more interesting content. I do not worry
> >> about how to pronounce things until I have been listening for at
> >> least 6 months or more.
> >>
> >> For my Russian I have enjoyed audio books, and right now especially
> >> enjoy a wonderful source of radio interviews complete with
> >> transcripts. both of which are available for free download daily.
> >>
> >> Much of this kind of content is available in our language libraries
> >> at LingQ, and anything that is not free of copyright can be still
> >> imported into t he system for pesonal use, but cannot be shared.
> >>
> >> The Internet and the MP3 player have exploded the opportunities for
> >> finding sound content and carrying it with you. Language labs have
> >> been made obsolete.
> >>
> >> Steve Kaufmann
> >> www.lingq.com
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Andrea Wilder
> >> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve--"Listening to recordings," what ones are you listening to?
> >> Programs? Radio?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Tom,
> >>>
> >>> Do you recommend different writing systems for each regional
> >>> accent? In French this would mean a Quebecois writing system,a
> >>> Parisian writing system, a Toulouse writing system, or in English
> >>> a Texas writing system, a London writing system, a Boston writing
> >>> system, a Yorkshire writing system and all the shades of
> >>> difference in between.
> >>>
> >>> Listening to recordings is more useful. I have studied 12
> >>> languages and only rely on the sound. I never use any phonetic
> >>> script. I do not trust them. I trust what I hear, and then I
> >>> connect that to the script that I see.
> >>>
> >>> I admire your enthusiasm but I do not understand the usefulness
> >>> of truespel.
> >>>
> >>> Steve Kaufmann
> >>> www.lingq.com
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> National Institute for Literacy
> >>>
> >>> Adult English Language Learners mailing list
> >>>
> >>> EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov
> >>>
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> >>> Email delivered to andreawilder at comcast.net
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:36:35 -0500
> > From: Leslie Petty <leslie.lpetty at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3526] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
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> > We've hosted several Japanese graduate students and professors.
> They
> > liked
> > pretty much everything we made, but the biggest hit of anything
> we've
> > made
> > was definitely s'mores!
> >
> > Leslie
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Ujwala Samant
> > <lalumineuse at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Andrea,
> >>
> >> How about Gumbo, potato salad, cranberry bread,
> >> blueberry muffins, brownies, pancakes, cornbread, clam
> >> chowder, friend chicken, Cajun catfish, corn
> >> casserole, sweet potato pie, Buffalo wings.... I had
> >> to make an American meal in France, quite a few times
> >> and these were on my list. Oh and wild rice too. The
> >> Louisiana menu always surprised everyone.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Ujwala
> >>
> >> --- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Steve and others--
> >>>
> >>> Another language exchange! My Thai student has
> >>> picked up on the
> >>> rhythm of English, just as you suggested she should,
> >>> so thank you
> >>> very much. Now here's the request, to anyone
> >>> reading this. (I think
> >>> the subject line covers this.) When I have students
> >>> from other
> >>> countries living here, I am always interested in
> >>> their recipes and
> >>> their food--today my Thai student said all she knew
> >>> about American
> >>> food was steak, turkey, and apple pie! I can make a
> >>> little booklet
> >>> of American recipes for her--what would this list
> >>> suggest? We both
> >>> like cooking together. She likes spicy food best,
> >>> but I don't want to
> >>> limit the cookbook to spicy. Thanks for your ideas!
> >>>
> >>> Andrea :)
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Andrea,
> >>>>
> >>>> There are many language exchange sites on the web.
> >>> LingQ is one,
> >>>> but LingQ also has lots of language content and a
> >>> vocabulary review
> >>>> engine built in. That would be cheaper and more
> >>> efficient and more
> >>>> interesting, especially if you already have some
> >>> knowledge of the
> >>>> language. I spend most of my Russian study time
> >>> listening on an
> >>>> Ipod while cleaning the kitchen or driving etc..
> >>> I occasionally
> >>>> join Russian conversations via Skype, but I earn
> >>> back the cost by
> >>>> tutoring in English, so it is a wash.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve
> >>>> www.lingq.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Andrea Wilder
> >>>> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> Steve--Here's my problem. I had sort of adequate
> >>> French years ago.
> >>>> Now I want to upgrade without going to France. My
> >>> time is so
> >>>> tight--that's why I thought of a CD/DVD program.
> >>> Maybe also I can
> >>>> join a conversational group here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrea
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> My son used it for Japanese and found it very
> >>> limited in terms of
> >>>>> vocabulary covered, and annoying in terms of the
> >>> exercizes. I
> >>>>> believe the starter courses I mentioned are more
> >>> effective and
> >>>>> less expensive. In any case, they just get you
> >>> started.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Andrea Wilder
> >>>>> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Steve--Have you used Rosetta Stone?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrea
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Steve Kaufmann
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You can buy a starter course for a language, or
> >>> borrow one at the
> >>>>>> library. Teach Yourself, Colloquial, Assimil,
> >>> Pimsleur, these are
> >>>>>> just a few. To go further in a language, there
> >>> is an abundance of
> >>>>>> content on the web, podcasts, radio stations and
> >>> the like. At
> >>>>>> first you have to listen repeatedly to a limit
> >>> range of content,
> >>>>>> but in time, as you understand better, you do
> >>> not listen as
> >>>>>> often and instead cover more and more
> >>> interesting content. I do
> >>>>>> not worry about how to pronounce things until I
> >>> have been
> >>>>>> listening for at least 6 months or more.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For my Russian I have enjoyed audio books, and
> >>> right now
> >>>>>> especially enjoy a wonderful source of radio
> >>> interviews complete
> >>>>>> with transcripts. both of which are available
> >>> for free download
> >>>>>> daily.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Much of this kind of content is available in our
> >>> language
> >>>>>> libraries at LingQ, and anything that is not
> >>> free of copyright
> >>>>>> can be still imported into t he system for
> >>> pesonal use, but
> >>>>>> cannot be shared.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Internet and the MP3 player have exploded
> >>> the opportunities
> >>>>>> for finding sound content and carrying it with
> >>> you. Language labs
> >>>>>> have been made obsolete.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve Kaufmann
> >>>>>> www.lingq.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Andrea Wilder
> >>>>>> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> Steve--"Listening to recordings," what ones are
> >>> you listening
> >>>>>> to? Programs? Radio?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andrea :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Steve Kaufmann
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tom,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do you recommend different writing systems for
> >>> each regional
> >>>>>>> accent? In French this would mean a Quebecois
> >>> writing system,a
> >>>>>>> Parisian writing system, a Toulouse writing
> >>> system, or in
> >>>>>>> English a Texas writing system, a London
> >>> writing system, a
> >>>>>>> Boston writing system, a Yorkshire writing
> >>> system and all the
> >>>>>>> shades of difference in between.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Listening to recordings is more useful. I have
> >>> studied 12
> >>>>>>> languages and only rely on the sound. I never
> >>> use any phonetic
> >>>>>>> script. I do not trust them. I trust what I
> >>> hear, and then I
> >>>>>>> connect that to the script that I see.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I admire your enthusiasm but I do not
> >>> understand the usefulness
> >>>>>>> of truespel.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Steve Kaufmann
> >>>>>>> www.lingq.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:56:15 -0500
> > From: Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net>
> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3527] Re: oral vs reading traditions
> > To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
> > <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>
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> > OK--s'mores = graham cracker, chocolate, marshmallow?
> >
> > Andrea :)
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Leslie Petty wrote:
> >
> >> We've hosted several Japanese graduate students and professors.
> >> They liked pretty much everything we made, but the biggest hit of
> >> anything we've made was definitely s'mores!
> >>
> >> Leslie
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Ujwala Samant
> >> <lalumineuse at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Andrea,
> >>
> >> How about Gumbo, potato salad, cranberry bread,
> >> blueberry muffins, brownies, pancakes, cornbread, clam
> >> chowder, friend chicken, Cajun catfish, corn
> >> casserole, sweet potato pie, Buffalo wings.... I had
> >> to make an American meal in France, quite a few times
> >> and these were on my list. Oh and wild rice too. The
> >> Louisiana menu always surprised everyone.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Ujwala
> >>
> >> --- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Steve and others--
> >>>
> >>> Another language exchange! My Thai student has
> >>> picked up on the
> >>> rhythm of English, just as you suggested she should,
> >>> so thank you
> >>> very much. Now here's the request, to anyone
> >>> reading this. (I think
> >>> the subject line covers this.) When I have students
> >>> from other
> >>> countries living here, I am always interested in
> >>> their recipes and
> >>> their food--today my Thai student said all she knew
> >>> about American
> >>> food was steak, turkey, and apple pie! I can make a
> >>> little booklet
> >>> of American recipes for her--what would this list
> >>> suggest? We both
> >>> like cooking together. She likes spicy food best,
> >>> but I don't want to
> >>> limit the cookbook to spicy. Thanks for your ideas!
> >>>
> >>> Andrea :)
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Andrea,
> >>>>
> >>>> There are many language exchange sites on the web.
> >>> LingQ is one,
> >>>> but LingQ also has lots of language content and a
> >>> vocabulary review
> >>>> engine built in. That would be cheaper and more
> >>> efficient and more
> >>>> interesting, especially if you already have some
> >>> knowledge of the
> >>>> language. I spend most of my Russian study time
> >>> listening on an
> >>>> Ipod while cleaning the kitchen or driving etc..
> >>> I occasionally
> >>>> join Russian conversations via Skype, but I earn
> >>> back the cost by
> >>>> tutoring in English, so it is a wash.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve
> >>>> www.lingq.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Andrea Wilder
> >>>> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> Steve--Here's my problem. I had sort of adequate
> >>> French years ago.
> >>>> Now I want to upgrade without going to France. My
> >>> time is so
> >>>> tight--that's why I thought of a CD/DVD program.
> >>> Maybe also I can
> >>>> join a conversational group here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrea
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Steve Kaufmann wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> My son used it for Japanese and found it very
> >>> limited in terms of
> >>>>> vocabulary covered, and annoying in terms of the
> >>> exercizes. I
> >>>>> believe the starter courses I mentioned are more
> >>> effective and
> >>>>> less expensive. In any case, they just get you
> >>> started.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Andrea Wilder
> >>>>> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Steve--Have you used Rosetta Stone?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrea
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Steve Kaufmann
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You can buy a starter course for a language, or
> >>> borrow one at the
> >>>>>> library. Teach Yourself, Colloquial, Assimil,
> >>> Pimsleur, these are
> >>>>>> just a few. To go further in a language, there
> >>> is an abundance of
> >>>>>> content on the web, podcasts, radio stations and
> >>> the like. At
> >>>>>> first you have to listen repeatedly to a limit
> >>> range of content,
> >>>>>> but in time, as you understand better, you do
> >>> not listen as
> >>>>>> often and instead cover more and more
> >>> interesting content. I do
> >>>>>> not worry about how to pronounce things until I
> >>> have been
> >>>>>> listening for at least 6 months or more.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For my Russian I have enjoyed audio books, and
> >>> right now
> >>>>>> especially enjoy a wonderful source of radio
> >>> interviews complete
> >>>>>> with transcripts. both of which are available
> >>> for free download
> >>>>>> daily.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Much of this kind of content is available in our
> >>> language
> >>>>>> libraries at LingQ, and anything that is not
> >>> free of copyright
> >>>>>> can be still imported into t he system for
> >>> pesonal use, but
> >>>>>> cannot be shared.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Internet and the MP3 player have exploded
> >>> the opportunities
> >>>>>> for finding sound content and carrying it with
> >>> you. Language labs
> >>>>>> have been made obsolete.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve Kaufmann
> >>>>>> www.lingq.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Andrea Wilder
> >>>>>> <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> Steve--"Listening to recordings," what ones are
> >>> you listening
> >>>>>> to? Programs? Radio?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andrea :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Steve Kaufmann
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tom,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do you recommend different writing systems for
> >>> each regional
> >>>>>>> accent? In French this would mean a Quebecois
> >>> writing system,a
> >>>>>>> Parisian writing system, a Toulouse writing
> >>> system, or in
> >>>>>>> English a Texas writing system, a London
> >>> writing system, a
> >>>>>>> Boston writing system, a Yorkshire writing
> >>> system and all the
> >>>>>>> shades of difference in between.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Listening to recordings is more useful. I have
> >>> studied 12
> >>>>>>> languages and only rely on the sound. I never
> >>> use any phonetic
> >>>>>>> script. I do not trust them. I trust what I
> >>> hear, and then I
> >>>>>>> connect that to the script that I see.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I admire your enthusiasm but I do not
> >>> understand the usefulness
> >>>>>>> of truespel.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Steve Kaufmann
> >>>>>>> www.lingq.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> National Institute for Literacy
> >>>>>>> Adult English Language Learners mailing list
> >>>>>>> EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your subscription
> >>> settings, please go
> >>>>>>> to
> >>> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage
> >>>>>>> Email delivered to andreawilder at comcast.net
> >>>>>>
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> >> Associate Director
> >> Project IDEAL Support Center
> >> University of Michigan
> >> 734-425-0748
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> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:10:22 -0500
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> > Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3528] Job opportunity
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