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[EnglishLanguage 3354] Re: quantifying student interest in material

Kathryn Williams

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Tue Jan 13 13:48:59 EST 2009


Call me old fashioned, but it seems the three "R's" have been and still are essential.
Reading writing arithmetic

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Barbara Smith <basmith at wflboces.org> wrote:

From: Barbara Smith <basmith at wflboces.org>
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3353] Re: quantifying student interest in material
To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 12:26 PM

HI... Thank you! Michael, you are so right. Having a learning disability
doesn't mean that you can't learn, be wildly successful,
extraordinarily intelligent, read for fun, have critical thinking and decision
making skills. There is not one way to learn but many ways which actually
depends on the individuals ...hence contextualized learning. Bobbi


>>> Michael Tate <mtate at sbctc.edu> 01/13/09 1:07 PM >>>

CeCe and Steve,
Reading was the critical skill in the 20thCentury, but since the advent of
computers that can speak, read and listen, digiracy rather than literacy is the
key skill for the 21st. This technological advance, and others, allows us to
create education programs, classrooms and tutorials where students can interact
and respond to lessons in a variety of modes, not just through reading and
writing. We all need to step up and implement Universal Design. We also need to
eliminate college entrance criteria that are obsolete, like insisting upon
fluent reading skills.

Steve,
Some people with dyslexia will NEVER be able to learn to read so that it is a
useful skill. Instead of having the student perseverate on trying to learn to
read, the instructor needs to re-focus them on learning to use a compensatory
device or software.

Michael Tate

From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of cece valentine
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:13 AM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3341] Re: quantifying student interest in material

Glad U didnt teach in a college years ago. Reading skils are not critical
thinking skills. Many dyslexics have critical thinking skills but the mechanics
of reading are a chore.

Land grant colleges were open to anyone who could get there. Many adults
learned to read after they got to the college. Their critical thinking skills
and divergent patterns of thought kept them going until; maybe years later, they
were prepared to teach or be lawyers or doctors.

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Steve Kaufmann <steve at thelinguist.com> wrote:

From: Steve Kaufmann <steve at thelinguist.com><~!B*+R^&>Subject:
[EnglishLanguage 3340] Re: quantifying student interest in material
To: "The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List"
<englishlanguage at nifl.gov><~!B*+R^&>Date: Tuesday, January 13,
2009, 12:14 AM
If a college student has trouble reading he/she should not be there.

I do not believe that you can teach critical thinking skills. A person who
reads widely and has been exposed to many different facts and points of view has
a better chance of developing the ability to think clearly and express thoughts
in a balanced and persuasive manner. Reading is key.







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