Tuesday, January 29, 2008, (TEITAC 11A) 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. Eastern
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11A teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that no quorum of members was present, so any decisions reached during today’s called would be considered recommendations only, until the next quorum of the committee could consider them. [See preliminary agenda: http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=7870&listid=1 ]
Since the teleconferences are official TEITAC meetings, the following protocols apply to ALL teleconference calls:
Review of Purpose of Teleconferences
The co-chairs reviewed the purpose of the calls and reminded the members present that the primary purpose of the calls was to give the members an opportunity to review and discuss proposed provisions.
There will be teleconference calls scheduled every Tuesday from January 29, 2008 to April 1, 2008. The calls will be held as the committee members deem it necessary to complete the work of the committee. Any teleconference may be cancelled or the agenda modified, as the needs of the committee dictate. The meetings will be designated as “TEITAC 11A, 11B,” and so on.
Provision Consensus Review
The committee conducted extensive discussion of the provisions listed on the agenda. All edits were made to the Wiki, at: http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
* Subpart A: Emergency, Field, and First Response Use Exception
* First Responder Definition – after extensive discussion of the proposed exception and the definition, no consensus was reached by the committee. Parties agreed that this is a significant issue that deserves review beyond the committee. The proposed exception and definition were referred to the EWG (Editorial Working Group) for work on a statement outlining how these matters are to be handled in the final report. An Annex is suggested as one means of including important, non consensed items.
* Subpart D: Information, Documentation and Support
* 1.1-A Accessible Documentation (including ITAA proposal) After discussion, the committee recommended that this be consensed. It will be addressed by the next quorum of the committee.
Due to lack of time, the following items were continued to the next meeting of the committee (February 5, 2008):
* 1.1-B Keyboard Shortcuts
* 1.2-A Support Services
* Subpart D: Implementation, Operation, and Maintenance
* 2-C Accessibility Configuration
* 2-D Accessible Content
* Subpart B: Technical Provisions
* 2.2-D Volume
* 3.BB Label Descriptive
* Definitions: Authoring Tools, Electronic and Information Technology, Free-Standing, Functional Equivalent to TV Closed Captions, Information Technology, Interactive Elements, Manufacturer, Menu
Public Comment
Tom Brett, member of the public, noted that the First Responder Exception had never been discussed in full at either the subcommittee level or by the full , committee. Alex LI, SAP, commented on the process.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The co-chairs reiterated that all matters recommended during the call would be brought before the next meeting of the committee when a quorum was present to conduct committee business. All edits were made to the Wiki http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
Tuesday, February 5, 2008, (TEITAC 11B) 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. Eastern
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11B teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that no quorum of members was present, so any decisions reached during today’s called would be considered recommendations only, until the next quorum of the committee could consider them.
[See preliminary agenda: http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=7891&listid=1]
Provision Consensus Review - There was no quorum for the meeting. All recommendations will be made to a quorum of the committee.
The committee continued discussion on the outstanding provisions. All provisions as edited and discussed are found in the Wiki: http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
After much discussion, after much discussion, a consensus to recommend some provisions to the full committee was achieved: 1-G Text Size (version 3) and 4-A Caption Process
Discussion on the majority of provisions was continued to February 12, 2008:
Subpart D: Information, Documentation and Support
1.1-B Keyboard Shortcuts, 1.2-A Support Services, Subpart B: Technical Provisions, 3.BB Label Descriptive, 1-E Visual Information, 2.1.B Flashing, 2.2.C Audio Connection,
Subpart D: Implementation, Operation, and Maintenance; 2-C Accessibility Configuration, 2-D Accessible Content,
Definitions: Authoring Tools, Electronic and Information Technology, Free-Standing, Functional Equivalent to TV Closed Captions, Information Technology, Interactive Elements, Menu
Public Comment
Mr. Ken Stewart, First Vice President of the Metropolitan Council of Low Vision Individuals, discussed how improved Visual Contrast was better for readability for individuals with low vision. Another comment was made by an unidentified speaker about the importance of providing sufficient time intervals for making entries on telephones. It was noted that a 4-second interval was not long enough, especially for persons with arthritis.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The co-chairs reiterated that all matters recommended during the call would be brought before the next meeting of the committee when a quorum was present to conduct committee business. Members were encouraged to attend the next week’s call. All edits were made to the Wiki http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
Tuesday, February 12, 2008, (TEITAC 11C) 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. Eastern
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11C teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that a quorum of members was present, so the committee could review recommendations from the previous two meetings.
[See preliminary agenda:
http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=7912&listid=1
The chairs also noted that a preliminary schedule for all remaining teleconferences had been developed through the remainder of the time for the committee. The committee report is scheduled to be given to the U.S. Access Board on April 3, 2008.
Full Committee Consensus on Recommended Member Decisions
During Non-Quorum Meetings
After a brief discussion, the full quorum of the committee present on the call took the following actions :
Exceptions: Emergency, Field and First Response Use. The provision will be removed from the draft, and documented in the appendix. Definitions: First Responder proposed will be removed. Functional Equivalent to TV Closed Captions (remove, documented in provision)
After extensive discussion, work on the following provisions was continued to a later date for further work and discussion by the committee: General Flash, Provisions (Subpart C): 1-G Text Size, 4.A Caption Process, Provisions (Subpart D):
All those items consensed, and all those continued for further work are found on the Wiki: http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
Public Comment
No public comments were received
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The co-chairs thanked the members for their work, and reminded those who were working on additional language on provisions for future meetings to submit their materials to the committee in advance of the next meeting. Members were encouraged to attend the next week’s call. All edits were made to the Wiki http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
Tuesday, February 19, 2008, (TEITAC 11D) 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. Eastern
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11D teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that a quorum of members was present.
[See preliminary agenda:
http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=7961&listid=1 ]
The agenda was amended during the call to the following:
Provision Consensus Review
Subpart C: Technical Provisions
1-G Text Size – A Subcommittee formed to work on language.
Subpart D: Implementation, Operation and Maintenance:
2-C Accessibility Configuration- the draft was revised to remove the first sentence and replace it with third sentence for a new draft. http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7#2-C_-_Accessibility_Configuration_.28Discussed_Jan_7.2C_Feb_12.2C_19.29 The revised provision was adopted by consensus.
2-D Accessible Content- After extensive discussion, work on the provision was continued to the next meeting.
Work on the following provisions was continued to next week:
Subpart C: Technical Provisions, 6.D - Caller & Status Information, 6.F – VOIP, 7-C Prompts, 7-D Accessible Templates, 1194.3 General Exceptions, Fundamental Alteration, Subpart A, Application.
Public Comment – No public comments were received.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The chairs noted that there had been a good response from members of the committee in providing comments to the draft narrative. A brief discussion as to whether or not the committee should change the number for a quorum. The consensus of people on the call was to leave the quorum numbers alone. Members were encouraged to attend the next week’s call. All edits were made to the Wiki http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
Tuesday, February 26, 2008, (TEITAC 11E) 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. Eastern
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11E teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that a quorum of members was present.
[See preliminary agenda:
http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=8045&listid=1 ]
Provision Consensus Review
Subpart D: Implementation, Operation, and Maintenance –2-D Accessible Content – after extensive discussion, consensus was achieved on this provision. a consensus draft with two notes was sent to the EWG.
Subpart B: Technical Provisions
3.BB Labels Descriptive - The committee achieved consensus on this provision and included labels. http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7#3-BB_-_Headings_and_Labels_.28Consensed.29
6-F VOIP- after extensive discussion, no consensus was reached.
6-G VOIP (New provision) External alerting devices. No consensus was reached. Members need to review with this with their constituents. Continued to a later meeting.
1194.3 General Exceptions
Fundamental Alteration – consensus was reached after extended discussion. http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7#1194.3_-_E_-_Fundamental_Alteration_.28Consensed.29
The following provisions were continued for discussion, due to a lack of time: Subpart A, Application, Subpart B: Technical Provisions: 7-C Prompts, 7-D Accessible Templates.
Public Comment – No public comments were received.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The chairs noted that a second draft of the narrative for review was to be disseminated. Members were encouraged to attend the next week’s call. All edits were made to the Wiki http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11F teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that a quorum of members was present. Co-Chair Mike Paciello noted that the majority of the time for the next week’s call (March 11, 2008) would be devoted to finishing up the outstanding provisions.
[See preliminary agenda:
http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=8120&listid=1 ]
The following provisions were discussed:
Subpart A
Application (Section 508)
Subpart B - Functional Performance Criteria
3-P User Interface Components
3-U AT Interoperability- this provision was dropped off the meeting agenda due to time constraints
3-NEW Assistive Technology
Public Comment – No public comments were received.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The chairs reminded members of the extended time for next week’s call, and members were encouraged to attend. All edits were made to the Wiki http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11G teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that a quorum of members was not present, despite members having indicated previously that they would attend. The call was scheduled for five hours, in hope that many of the remaining provisions would be addressed. A large number of the members were in a conference room at the CSUN conference in Los Angeles, CA, while the majority of the members were calling in from various locations. Meeting times are given in both Pacific Standard Time (PST) and Eastern Time (ET). It was determined that the recommendations of the committee during this meeting would be referred to the next quorum of the full committee, as per standard procedure.
[See preliminary agenda:
http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=8210&listid=1 ]
Provision Consensus Review - There was no quorum for the meeting. All recommendations will be made to a quorum of the committee.
The committee continued discussion on the outstanding provisions. All provisions as edited and discussed are found in the Wiki: http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
Subpart B: FPC (All) – The majority of the time at the meeting was spent discussing the Functional Performance Criteria. The committee made recommendations on many of the criteria, and had several on which no agreement was reached. All recommendations and discussions were deferred to the next meeting when a quorum would be present.
All other matters on the agenda were continued to the March 18, 2008 meeting: 3.U AT Interoperability, 3.New Assistive Technology, 1.E Visual Information, 1.H Speech Operation, 2.1.B - Flashing (Hardware),1-G - Text Size, 6-F – VOIP, 6-G - External Alerting Devices, 3.P - User Interface Components, 1.1-B Keyboard Shortcuts (Subpart D), 7.C – Prompts, 7.D Accessible Templates, 3.New - Visual Indication of Keyboard Shortcuts, Subpart A: Purpose.
Final Draft Review Schedule & Arrangements – There was discussion of the timing for finalizing the draft and preparing for the presentation to the Access Board.
Public Comment – No public comment was received.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The co-chairs reiterated that all matters recommended during the call would be brought before the next meeting of the committee when a quorum was present to conduct committee business. All edits were made to the Wiki http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
The meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m. PST, (6:00 p.m. Eastern)
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
The TEITAC 11H teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Michele Budris, (filling in for Mike Paciello) going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that a quorum of members was present.
[See preliminary agenda:
http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=8291&listid=1 ]
A special “sandbox area” was set up for the open provisions. The sandbox is located at: http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:OpenProvisions_March_12
Committee Consensus Approval of March 11th Provision Recommendations- extensive discussion was held on the recommendations made on the FPC from last week’s call. Consensus was achieved on some of the provisions, while discussion on other provisions was continued to allow small groups to work on possible consensus language.
Provision Consensus Discussion –After extensive discussion, a few provisions achieved consensus. The rest of the materials were continued over to next week.
Provisions discussed were: 1.H Speech Operation (consensed), 3.U AT Interoperability, 3.New Assistive Technology, 1.E Visual Information, 2.1.B - Flashing (Hardware), 1-G - Text Size, 6-F – VOIP, 6-G - External Alerting Devices, 3.P - User Interface Components, 1.1-B Keyboard Shortcuts (Subpart D), 7.C – Prompts, 7.D - Accessible Templates, 3.New - Visual Indication of Keyboard Shortcuts.
All drafts and proposed language and consensed materials were noted on the Wiki: http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:Draft_Jan_7
Public Comment – No public comments were received.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias)
Co-Chair Jim Tobias thanked the members for their work, reminded those working on language to continue their work, and invited all to attend next week’s call. The call on March 25, 2008 is the last call where substantive consensus discussions will be held.
The call was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
Telecommunications and Electronic and Information Technology Advisory Committee
Meeting Summary
Introduction and Roll Call by Co-Chairs (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
The TEITAC 11-I teleconference started with co-chairs Jim Tobias and Mike Paciello going over the agenda, then taking roll of the callers. It was determined that a quorum of members was present. It was noted that the call today might be extended to as long as 6:00 p.m., depending on the desires of the committee, in an attempt to get the status of the remaining provisions discussed and resolved.
[See preliminary agenda:
http://teitac.org/mailarchives/mail_message.php?id=8458&listid=1 ]
Status Review on Narrative & Open Definitions
The EWG reported that they had put together a draft 6 of the Narrative, which will be ready for review on 3/26/08. The narrative does not need to be consensed. Only the recommended provisions require consensus.
Review of TEITAC Schedule/Minority Report Submission
Extensive discussion about the narrative comments and how the EWG will incorporate them into the final narrative. The Narrative is not a consensus section of the report, since the work product of the committee is supposed to be the recommendations only.
Access Board Presentation Arrangements
The co-chairs discussed generally how the TEITAC report would be presented to the full Access Board on Thursday, April, 3, 2008. A draft of the presentation will be provided to the members of the committee shortly.
Provision Consensus Discussion -
6-F - Audio Clarity for VOIP - consensed http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:OpenProvisions_March_12#7-C_-_Prompts_.28Discussed_Dec_4.2C_11.2C_Jan_9.29
6-G - External Alerting Devices - consensed http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:OpenProvisions_March_12#6-G_-_External_Alerting_Devices_.28Discussed_Feb_26.2C_new_ver_added_March_4.29
3-J - Flashing (Content and User Interfaces) – consensed
http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:OpenProvisions_March_12#6-G_-_External_Alerting_Devices_.28Discussed_Feb_26.2C_new_ver_added_March_4.29
7.C - Prompts - No Consensus. A small group will write up a description. http://teitac.org/wiki/EWG:OpenProvisions_March_12#7-C_-_Prompts_.28Discussed_Dec_4.2C_11.2C_Jan_9.29
1-G - Text Size - No consensus was achieved.
Quorum was called at 3:40 p.m. by the co-chairs because people were starting to leave the call. Quorum no longer existed, so the remainder of the call was devoted to getting comments from committee members on the outstanding provisions with a view towards attempting to clarify the outstanding issues on the various provisions.
Public comment
Steen Hviid: (private person) He submitted comments to this committee on Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity.
Jim from Lexmark: Subpart B Functional performance criteria. Question about how to interpret “motion”. No response from committee members.
After public comment, the committee resumed discussion, even though there was no consensus at that point, to clarify the outstanding issues on the various provisions.
The EWG proposed the following action: the committee should leave material in a section showing where consensus is desired.
The balance of the provisions will be written up by various committee members who volunteered to write a paragraph or two on each issue. These will not be consensus statements, but will merely be informational material submitted as part of the report to the Access Board.
The outstanding provisions include:
1.1-B - Keyboard Shortcuts (Subpart D)
3.SS - Visual Indication of Keyboard Shortcuts
7.D - Accessible Templates
1.E - Visual Information
3.P - User Interface Components
3.U - AT Interoperability
3.VV - Assistive Technology
6 - D - Caller and Status Information
Subpart A - Purpose
Functional Performance Criteria
E - With Limited Hearing
I - Without Physical Contact
J - With Cognitive, Language, or Learning Limitations
Members remaining on the called indicated that they may provide view point opinions on the various provisions in the draft report that did not achieve TEITAC consensus. The comments will be posted on the Wiki.
Summation & Concluding Comments (Jim Tobias & Mike Paciello)
Co-chairs Mike Paciello and Jim Tobias thanked the members for their ongoing work, and indicated that “finalized” draft versions of the report would be posted for review and comments by members later in the week. A schedule for submitting minority reports was discussed, and all members were advised to follow the listserv notices very closely, as much work remains to be done in the 10 days before the report is presented to the Access Board.
The call was adjourned at 4:26 p.m.