Publically funded programs do not allow charging for basic skills classes that are funded through the state/local funding mix here in CT. Above the basic skills, we do charge for a 15 week professional preparation ESL course - $300. This is cheaper than the community colleges charge here in CT.  Andy Tyskiewicz, CREC

 

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From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Mareike Fitz
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:38 PM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 4037] Cost for ESL

 

Hello everyone,  I was wondering whether any of you work for adult ESL programs that charge tuition for classes.  If so I am curious about how much you charge per hour and how you decided on that amount. I am looking for a standard for comparison of what seems reasonable.  Our program has varied from charging nothing at all to charging a small amount of around $2/ hour.  I am looking for some guidance in how to decide on pricing. 

 

Mareike

 

 

Mareike Fitz

Adult Program Director

(307)733 9242 ext. 226

mareike at tetonliteracy.org

 





 

On Mar 13, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Mona Curtis wrote:





I wanted to share how we're addressing childcare issues in our community college. The main barriers we faced were a place and staffing.  

 

We had a lot of children's furniture, toys and other materials from when we were a recipient of the Even Start grant, and with a little rearranging, we made a corner of an adult ESL classroom into a place for childcare.  This raised many questions among my colleagues who insisted that it was not a certified day care and it certainly was not .  What I found was that people were operating in fear and with a lack of information.  The specter of lawsuits looms in almost any conversation, especially in the public arena.  So I decided to go directly to the source.  I contacted the state inspector for early childhood facilities. (I had met her before because we did have a state certified day care when we had the Even Start grant.)  She gave me a copy of "Rules for the Certification of Child Care Centers" published by the Oregon Employment Department.  Page One lists exclusions, which she said we qualified for in several categories.  

d) operated by a school district, . . . government agency

e)  are operated on an occasional basis by an organization not ordinarily engaged in providing childcare

g) provide care while the child's parent remains on the premise and is engaged in an activity offered by the facility

 

So the place is taken care of.  (more or less) 

 

Staffing has been and remains a problem.  The first thing we learned is that you can't count on volunteers.  It is very rare when you have a very responsible volunteer.  We tried contracting with the Day Care Center personnel, but that was very costly.  What we have finally lighted upon, is the use of Work Study.  That way, students are paid, but we don't pay them.  Actually, this isn't a perfect situation either, because workstudies come in varying degrees of responsibility as well.  It doesn't take much for one of them to cancel (homework, dog's sick, etc)  What's been most helpful is to schedule more than one so usually someone is there all the time.  We have some other things for the workstudy to do if we are overstaffed.  

 

All in all, it has been a very thankless endeavor. The college still is not completely comfortable with what I'm doing nor do they see the need.  (We in the field know there is a need, but sometimes there is sporadic attendance and that doesn't demonstrate a need to the administration.)  

 

 

 

Mona Curtis

ESL Coordinator

Treasure Valley Community College

Ontario, OR 97914

541-881-8822 x 316

 

 

 

From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Janet Shing
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:40 AM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3916] Re: Community Based ESL

 

Hi Linda,

 

La Campaña de Literatura contracts with professional childcare providers. These expenses are paid by a foundation grant through the Literacy Campaign for Monterey County. The Literacy Campaign conducted research on best practices of adult literacy programs and found that reducing barriers such as transportation and childcare increases student attendance. More information is available at http://www.cfmco.org/otherGrants.php#lit

 

You may have identified one of the main differences between community-based and public education programs. Some of our local adult schools collaborate with family resource centers to provide childcare.  Do you have family resource centers in Utah? http://www.californiafamilyresource.org/index.html

 

Janet Shing

 

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From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of linda_c_hoffman at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:07 PM
To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3912] Re: Community Based ESL

 

Childcare is one of the biggest barriers to retention in our Adult ESL program. We are constantly told by the district that Board of Health and funding restrictions on childcare are insurmountable. How are you doing this? 

Linda C. Hoffman
Coordinator, Adult ESL
Ogden School District
455 - 28th Street
Ogden, UT 84401
801-430-0641

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Shing" <Janet at cfmco.org>
To: "The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List" <englishlanguage at nifl.gov>, pumarosa21 at yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:26:37 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3908] Re: Community Based ESL

We have a successful program in Greenfield, California. The area has a growing indigenous population from Oaxaca, Mexico (conservative estimates are around 4,000). Indigenous Oaxacans do not necessarily speak Spanish. There are more than twenty indigenous languages spoken in Oaxaca. These languages are unique; unrelated to Spanish; and sound more similar to Native American languages than Spanish. 

 

The majority of literacy programs in our area focus on English. Oaxacans, who do not have a written language, need basic skills (alphabet, vocalization, group learning etiquette, etc.) before tackling English. La Campaña de Literatura para la Comunidad began a new program in 2007 to meet this need. Groups of 25 adults meet at a community center in a nearby low-income housing complex. The class meets for two hours, twice a week, for two 16-week sessions, which is planned around the seasonal agricultural schedule. Local teachers with the help of Oaxacan translators facilitate the class. In addition to basic literacy skills, the curriculum includes sessions on health literacy (how to read a prescription, what to expect at a doctor's appointment, etc.) and family literacy. The class provides childcare and a healthy snack. This program has had near 100% retention in the last two years.

 

Paul, Thank you for sharing your information. I too would like to hear about other community-based programs.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet Shing, Program Officer

Community Foundation for Monterey County - Here for Good, www.cfmco.org <http://www.cfmco.org/> 

Literacy Campaign for Monterey County - Reading is Power, www.literacycampaignmc.org <http://www.literacycampaignmc.org/> 

2354 Garden Road, Monterey, CA 93940

(831) 375-9712 x137

 

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From: englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:englishlanguage-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of carolkubota at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:10 PM
To: pumarosa21 at yahoo.com; The Adult English Language Learners Discussion List
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3906] Re: Community Based ESL

 

Hello Paul,

 

That is a fantastic idea.

 

Carol

Battle Creek Language and Culture Center
Director/ESL Language Specialist
7 Heritage Oak Lane #4
Battle Creek, Mi 49015
269-979-8432
http://www.bclanguageculture.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Rogers" <pumarosa21 at yahoo.com>
To: englishlanguage at nifl.gov
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:28:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [EnglishLanguage 3904]  Community Based ESL

Several months ago I started tutoring the workers at a large laundromat where I take my clothes. I use my own texts and audio cds which I sell at cost. I also show them how to access my website.
One of the students invited me to her house to demonstrate my website and materials to about 10 of her friends and neighbors. As an added attraction she cooked some very delicious chile rellenos.
I also produce lessons that are aired on the local community access television station. So now, people are finding out about the classes by word of mouth. 
The manager of a restaurant wants classes there. 
One new student with an internet connection volunteered to show other students how the website works.
This approach is what I call community based learning, and not only is very effective, but also is very enjoyable. I am eating a lot better, too!
I am very interested to find out about similar programs.
Sincerely,
Paul Rogers


Paul Rogers
805-258-3310
pumarosa21 at yahoo.com
PUMAROSA.COM




Paul Rogers
805-258-3310
pumarosa21 at yahoo.com
PUMAROSA.COM


      
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