Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id hB2JKQm29157; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:20:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:20:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200312021316.AA64618722@thereadingpeople.org> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Faitha Clark" <dclark@thereadingpeople.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9670] Re: TABE and Adult LAS for ESL X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: <IMail v5.07> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Content-Length: 3433 Lines: 79 We use the Bader Reading and Language Inventory. It serves k-12 levels and esl. It has sections for learning disabilities too. It is very inexpensive, about $40, and you can legally photocopy it! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Kroeger, Miriam" <MKroege@ade.az.gov> Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:19:59 -0500 (EST) >Arizona is using the BEST (Literacy and Oral)and for those students assessing at Level IV or V, the TABE Reading and Language. Are we happy about this, no, but the cost involved in developing a "valid and reliable" test in phenomenal. Unfortunately, the BEST and BEST Plus are two separate tests, and scores do not correlate. Our teachers have said that the BEST is good for the lower level students (ESOL Pre - II), but not for the higher level. > >In addition to validity and reliability, we also have to look at manageability, training and cost factors. Additionally, how do these tests match up for "special needs"? We were told we could not enlarge any of the graphics on the BEST, yet, phone books certainly have larger type now than in the 70's. > >We are certainly on the look out for assessments that better reflect what we are teaching in our classes. > >-Miriam Kroeger >Arizona > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Rosen [mailto:djrosen@comcast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:29 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9659] Re: TABE and Adult LAS for ESL > > >Yvonne, > >In Massachusetts, to address the need you have identified, we use the >REEP test, a standardized test of writing skills for adult ESOL >students which covers SPL levels not covered by the current BEST test. >It is available from the REEP program in Virginia. > >David J. Rosen > > >On Monday, November 24, 2003, at 12:52 PM, Yvonne Lerew wrote: > >> In South Dakota, there are two authorized tests for adult education >> and literacy programs funded through the state. These are the BEST >> and the TABE. We end up using the TABE for adult ESL students on the >> high end who have maxxed out the BEST. I would agree that it is not >> an appropriate assessment tool in many cases. It may be useful for >> some students who have the long-term goal of achieving the GED since >> the academic skills tested the TABE are relevant for these students. >> However, we have a group of advanced ESL students in an EL Civics >> class for whom the TABE is not relevant. Fortunately, this group is a >> small percentage of our total students. So we give the test to meet >> the demands of the funders and then move on to meet the needs of our >> students. >> I hope this is helpful. >> Yvonne Lerew >> >> At 10:30 AM 11/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>> Hello Everyone, >>> My name is Melanie Hamper and this is my first time using the list. >>> I am a >>> graduate student of TESOL at Madonna University in Livonia, MI. >>> >>> I am having difficulty finding anyone who uses the TABE for Adult ESL >>> programs. If anyone does use the TABE for their program, I would be >>> very >>> grateful to get your opinions about how useful it is to you. Help!! >>> I am >>> doing a comparison between the TABE and the Adult LAS for my final >>> project >>> in Testing/Assessment of ESL students. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Melanie >>> TESOL grad student >> >> >> >David J. Rosen >djrosen@comcast.net >617-522-7020 > > >
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