Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h4EF9LC07909; Wed, 14 May 2003 11:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <Law9-F66U68aBjPu9Bs0001ee7b@hotmail.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Susan Ryan" <susanefl@hotmail.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8964] Re: English immersion X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Status: O Content-Length: 1553 Lines: 41 Bill- You made a point I've wondered about also--poetic license with the language. I would think teaching poetry could present a problem with beginning language learners as you said with songs. I mean other than the clearly stated like "roses are red,violets are blue". Could anyone else add insights on this. please? I would like to use poetry. Susan >From: "Andres Muro" <AndresM@epcc.edu> >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8963] Re: English immersion >Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:17:14 -0400 (EDT) > >Another patriotic song reflecting American ideology is "with god on our >side". ESL students will love to listen and interpret this song. > >Andres > > >>> WMFisher40@aol.com 05/14/03 07:24AM >>> > > My wife Solveig uses songs such as "This Land is My Land" and "Anything >You Can Do, I Can Do Better" quite successfully in her ESL classes, and >the students love them. But you have to be careful with them because >songwriters >often use their poetic license to violate normal rules of usage. For >instance, >in Woody Guthrie's "This Land ...", he says "... to the New York Island >...". >This just sounds wrong to me, probably because "the" usually requires a >unique referent, and I don't know what, exactly, he's talking about -- >Manhattan? >Long Island? Keewaydin? > > - Bill Fisher > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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