[NIFL-FOBASICS:891] RE: Managing Statistics/Teaching to the t

From: Ellie Drago-Severson (seversel@gse.harvard.edu)
Date: Thu Dec 11 2003 - 13:38:15 EST


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THANK YOU! I'LL SHARE THIS AS WELL!

--On Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:33 PM -0500 Andres Muro 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nixon S. Griffis [mailto:ngriffis@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:52 AM
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> Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:871] RE: Managing Statistics/Teaching to the
> test
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> Welcome to the wonderful world of education Mr. Boone. Teaching to the
> test is more and more part of the curriculum by necessity for many
> teachers.
>
> Suggestion 1.	Duplicate each question couching that question in different
> forms. Make twenty examples of such a question. Then drill your students
> over and over again until each student is capable of answering that
> question. Math and language are the easiest to accomplish. Usage, grammar
> mechanics, math solutions are logical and can be set out in rule form.
> Reading is much more difficult because of the subtle skills needed to be
> developed over long terms of time in order to build comprehension and
> speed. See suggestion 2. for Reading. Oh yes, because you will have
> M(6-7grade), D(8-10)and A(11-12) level students you will need to have
> three sets of curriculum.
>
> Suggestion 2.  Go through the TABE test and pick out keywords and words
> that are at a level that indicates to you that your students need to see
> their definitions. Teach those words to your students. It will amaze you
> how easily you can spot these words after working with your students for
> a bit of time.
>
> 	Reading's largest factor, after being able to call words, is made up
> of our
> ability to give our minds the proper definition of words that are being
> used in the text. This is meekly known as vocabulary, these days. TABE
> can only choose a small fraction of vocabulary and keywords in its'
> tests. That, I believe, is  why reading assessment tests are so inept at
> showing progress. The odds are infinitely small, given the number of
> words in our language, that your students will have looked up the words
> contained in the test.
>
> 	We are still in such a state of development on this subject that I
> do not
> even think anyone has made an official ruling as to if teaching the
> specific vocabulary of the TABE is allowed.
>
> 	Anyone out there know about this issue?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nifl-fobasics@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-fobasics@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of
> Richard T. Boone
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:36 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [NIFL-FOBASICS:869] Managing Statistics
>
>
>
>
> I run a small computerized Workplace Literacy lab and have several
> questions.
> I hope I may receive some feedback on the following topics.
>
> 1)	Students are referred to me for a 30-60 day time period to "bring
> their
> scores up", so they may enter some form of training. What would be
> considered a normative increase in TABE scores for students averaging 20
> hours a week in the lab?
> I do realize that "I am teaching to the TABE", but I see no alternative
> given the short time periods.
>      2)   Every 50 hours I am supposed to retest students giving the
> complete TABE battery. Several students will drop out right after
> retesting; they know they have done poorly even before the tests are
> scored. How do you deal with this problem?
>
> 2)	I am highly dependant on state, labor and county officials for
> referrals.
> It appears that their job criteria demand that data management is the
> overriding concern. The "goals" of students must be met at close to a 100%
> success rate, so data must be managed to accomplish this success rate. How
> do others deal with this?
>
>
>
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Ellie Drago-Severson, Ed.D.
Lecturer in Education
Harvard Graduate School of Education
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