PLEASE BE SURE TO NOTE THAT ON PAGE 42819, UNDER THE SECTION TITLED,
HAND DELIVERED APPLICATION, THE SGA INCORRECTLY NOTES THE DEALINE
FOR SUBMISSION AS AUGUST TH. IN AN EARLIER SECTION OF THE SGA, ON THIS SAME
PAGE, UNDER THE SECTION TITLE DATES IT CORRECTLY STATES THE DUE
DATE AS AUGUST TH. TO BE CLEAR THE DUE DATE IS AUGUST 20TH.
DOL TELEPHONE CONFERENCE
JULY 28, 2003,
BEGINNING THE TELEPHONE CONFERENCE:
Paul Hippolitus of ODEP moderated the call and introduced Mark
Johnston, the principle HUD representative as well as Cassandra Willis, the
Grant Officer at DOL. Initial introductions and words of welcome were not
recorded due to technical difficulties. The transcript begins below.
>> YES, I AM CASSANDRA WILLIS. I AM THE
GRANT OFFICES TECHNICAL REPRESENTATIVE. I JUST
WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS
CONFERENCE IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY FULLY
UNDERSTANDS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PROJECTS.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE TOPICS THAT MUST BE AVOIDED SUCH
AS DISCUSSION OF PROPRIETARY INFORMATION FROM ONE
GRANTEE THAT IS NOT TO BE DISSEMINATED IN ADDITION TO
THE TECHNICAL APPROACH TO BE SUBMITTED BY EACH OF THE
RESPONDENTS. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I WILL TURN IT
OVER TO PAUL AND WE'LL GET TO THE QUESTIONS AND
ANSWERS.
>> ONE MORE COLLEAGUE FROM WASHINGTON
JOINED US. I WANTED TO INTRODUCE DORIS RIPPEY, from ETA.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR UP TO QUESTIONS, AS
I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GO STATE BY STATE. I'LL CALL
OUT YOUR STATE'S NAME. I'LL TRUST YOU TO BE FROM
THERE.
IF YOU HAVE NO QUESTION, BE SILENT FOR FIVE
SECONDS OR SAY "NO QUESTIONS NOW," AND WE'LL GO ON TO
THE NEXT STATE. SO THE FIRST STATE IS ALASKA. ARE
THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PERSON FROM ALASKA?
ARIZONA, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PERSON FROM
ARIZONA.
>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU HEAR
ME?
>> YES, PLEASE ASK.
>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
PAGE COLLABORATION APPLICATION UNDER SECTION THREE,
AND THE PAGE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT NARRATIVE?
>> THE PAGE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT
NARRATIVE IS FOR THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM
PART OF THE EFFORT. THE COLLABORATIVE PAGE
PROPOSAL IS A DESCRIPTION OR A NARRATIVE IDENTIFYING
AND DESCRIBING HOW EACH THE HUD HOMELESS SERVICE
PROVIDER AND THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROVIDER WILL
WORK IN PARTNERSHIP TO SERVE PERSONS WHO ARE
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS. SO IT'S A BRIDGE PIECE. IT'S
A DESCRIPTION OF COOPERATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO
ELEMENTS.
REMEMBER THAT THE LOCAL WORK FORCE BOARD
GETS THE DOL EMPLOYMENT GRANT AND THE HOMELESS
COMMUNITY PROVIDER GETS THE HUD PERMANENT HOUSING
AWARD. AND IT'S WORKING TOGETHER. THAT MAKES THIS A
UNIQUE KIND OF PROGRAM.
>> SO THE TOTAL PAGE LIMIT WOULD BE
PAGES?
>> YES. NOT INCLUDING HUD, RIGHT?
>> YES, NOT INCLUDING HUD, JUST FOR THE
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROPOSAL , AND THE
COLLABORATION PROPOSAL .
>> THANK YOU.
>> CALIFORNIA?
>> YES, HI. I HAVE A QUESTION. IF THE
APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A COLLABORATIVE PROPOSAL, THAT
IS A MULTISERVICE PARTNERS OR IS IT A COMPETITIVE
BIDDING PROCESS REQUIRED?
>> YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND NAME YOUR
PARTNERS, THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION TOO. HELLO?
>> YES.
>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE
MATCHING FUNDS FOR HUD?
>> YES.
>> IS THAT STRICTLY JUST FOR HUD? IS IT
OVER THE FIRST YEAR?
>> THE MATCHING REQUIREMENTS IN LAW FOR
HUD'S PROGRAMS ARE DURING THE COURSE OF THE GRANT
TERM. SO FOR THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM IT'S
OVER THE THREE YEAR PERIOD. AND OVER THE SHELTER
PLUS SQUARE, IT'S FIVE YEARS.
>> SO IT DEPENDS ON WHICH OPTION YOURE
GOING UNDER.
>> LOS ANGELES HAS A QUESTION. WE WOULD
LIKE TO KNOW, ON THE WIA ELIGIBILITY IT SAYS LOCAL
WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD OR THE WIA COOPERATIVE --
WHAT QUALIFIES AS A COOPERATIVE RECIPIENT?
>> THIS IS ON PAGE . WELL IT'S ACTUALLY
. THE DOL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT AWARDS
ELIGIBLE LOCAL WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARDS OR THE WIA AGENT
OR FISCAL AGENT FOR THAT LOCAL AREA BOARD ON BEHALF
OF THAT LOCAL AREA BOARD.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER TO THAT
QUESTION.
>> IT HAS TO BE A LOCAL WORK FORCE
INVESTMENT BOARD OR THEIR FISCAL AGENT.
>> FOR THE CITY OR COUNTY, NOT A ONE STOP.
>> LONG ISLAND HAS A QUESTION.
>> DOES THIS SGA ENCOMPASS CHRONICALLY
HOMELESS FAMILIES WITH MORE THAN ONE PER HOUSEHOLD?
>> CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FAMILIES IS NOT A
TERM THAT IS USED BY HUD WHATSOEVER. IN THE HUD
CHRONIC INITIATIVE THAT WE DID WITH HHS AND VA THERE
WERE TWO ELIGIBILITY POPULATIONS: ONE WAS
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS AND THE OTHER WERE
DISABLED FAMILIES. THIS INITIATIVE ONLY FOCUSES ON
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS, WHICH ONLY INCLUDES
SINGLE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THOSE OTHER
CHARACTERISTICS.
>> SO EVEN IF WE HAVE FAMILIES, OUR
POPULATION IS NOT THAT LARGE IN THE FAMILIES, WE MAY
NOT APPLY FOR LARGER UNITS FOR SOME OF OUR
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FAMILIES --
>> THIS INITIATIVE IS ONLY FOR CHRONICALLY
HOMELESS PERSONS. AND THAT IS DEFINED BY ALL FEDERAL
AGENCIES AS SINGLE PERSONS, NOT INCLUDING FAMILIES.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY, LET'S GO TO COLORADO, ONE PERSON
FROM COLORADO, QUESTION THERE?
>> HI. THIS IS TRACY FROM COLORADO, MY
QUESTION IS REALLY ON THE OLMSTEAD PIECE.
AND THE QUESTION RELATES TO, IT DESCRIBES
THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT OUR COORDINATION
WITH THE STATE'S OVERALL OLMSTEAD PLANS. THE STATE
OF COLORADO HAS NOT HAD THE GOVERNOR SIGN OR EXECUTE
OUR OLMSTEAD PLAN AS OF YET, DO WE JUST TALK ABOUT
IT IN RELATION TO SORT OF THE IDEAS THAT ARE WRITTEN
DOWN, OR WHAT?
>> THE OLMSTEAD COORDINATION HAS TO DO
WITH -- THE ENTITY OR THE PARTY IN THE STATE WHO HAS
RESPONSIBILITY FOR IMPLEMENTATION, NOT NECESSARILY
THE PLAN PER SE.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CONTACT, A CONNECTION
THAT THE OLMSTEAD AUTHORITY RECOGNIZES YOUR PROJECT
AS A PROJECT THAT WILL SUPPORT STATE IMPLEMENTATION.
SO YOU NEED A LETTER FROM THAT AUTHORITY SO STATING.
>> CONNECTICUT?
>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. FROM HARTFORD
ON PAGE THERE'S THE WORD "DIAGNOSABLE A
DISABLING CONDITION." AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MEANS
THEY DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE DIAGNOSES SO
WHAT IS THE -- COULD YOU DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT THE
PROCESS OF "DIAGNOSEABLE" AND HOW YOU WOULD JUSTIFY
THAT OR DOCUMENT THAT ON A PERSON?
>> OKAY. THIS IS A PHRASE, HHS USES THIS.
IT WAS PICKED UP FROM THE HUD HHS VA CHRONIC HOMELESS
INITIATIVE. AND FOR HUD'S PURPOSES, AS REFEREED TO
LATER IN THAT SECTION, THE ACTUAL DEFINITION OF
"DISABILITY" IS SITED IN THE REGULATIONS FOR THE
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM AND FOR SHELTER PLUS CARE.
THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND DIAGNOSEABLE FOR THIS
COMPETITION.
>> IF YOU LOOK ON THAT PAGE UNDER
"ELIGIBILITY TARGET POPULATION," -- AT THE VERY END,
IT SAYS "IN ORDER TO RECEIVE HOUSING ASSISTANCE
THROUGH THE HUD GRANTS PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS MUST MEET
THE DEFINITION OF DISABILITY FOR HSHP AND PERSONS
WITH DISABILITIES" AND IN TERMS OF WHO MAKES THAT
DETERMINATION, HUD HAS TRIED TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE ON
THAT.
WE DO NOT REQUIRE AS MAY BE REQUIRED IN
VARIOUS HHS PROGRAMS A DISABILITY DETERMINATION BY A
PSYCHIATRIST. THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT BY HUD. SO
WE LET YOU USE YOUR OWN GOOD JUDGMENT IN MAKING THAT
DETERMINATION.
>> RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON . WE'LL COME
BACK, SORRY.
D.C., ANY ONE?
FLORIDA?
HAWAII?
>> NO, FLORIDA, FLORIDA PLEASE HOLD UP.
REGARDING THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS,
WHAT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION DO YOU HAVE TO VOUCH FOR
THAT.
>> THE FIRST PIECE I WOULD USE IF I WERE AN
APPLICANT WOULD BE A COPY OF THE POPULATIONS CHART IN
YOUR CONTINUUM OF CARE, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO HUD ON
JULY . THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST INSTANCE IN WHICH A
CONTINUUM HAS IDENTIFIED THE TOTAL ESTIMATED NUMBER OF
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS.
IF YOU'RE PROPOSING TO SERVE A LOCALE
THAT'S MUCH SMALLER THAN YOUR OVER ALL CONTINUUM, FOR
INSTANCE IT IF YOUR CONTINUUM REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE
STATE OFMONTANA -- IF YOU'RE PROPOSING TO SERVE AN AREA
WITHIN YOUR CONTINUUM THAT WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE
FOR YOU.
>> WHAT COMPRISES THE ELIGIBLE MATCH?
>> IS THIS FLORIDA?
>> YES.
>> THE ELIGIBLE MATCH IS DETERMINED ON
WHICH PROGRAM YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
>> IS IT THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM OR
SHELTER CARE?
>> SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
>> OKAY, FOR THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING
PROGRAM, IT'S CASH. BY LAW.
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE ON AND GO --
>> THE QUESTION AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS
WHAT KIND OF CASH, SHOULD IT BE OTHER SOURCES OF
FEDERAL FUNDING, ANYTHING OTHER THAN SHP SUPPORTING
HOUSING PROGRAM DOLLARS, WHICH YOURE REQUESTING CAN BE
USED AS MATCH. SO IT COULD BE A MATCH FROM ANOTHER
AGENCY YOU HAVE IN PLACE.
BUT IT COULD BE OTHER FEDERAL SOURCES AS WELL AS
PRIVATE AND LOCAL AND STATE.
>> CAN IT BE --
>> WHAT, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE.
>> PAUL .
HAWAII?
>> THE DEADLINE IS THE TH NOT THE TH,
OTHER RELEASES I SAW THE REGISTER SAYS TH. I
ASSUME THAT IS THE CORRECT ONE.
>> YOU'RE CORRECT IN YOUR ASSUMPTION, GO BY
THE FEDERAL REGISTER.
>> AND IS THERE ANY EXPECTATION OF ANY
FOLLOW-UP YEARLY GRANT THAT'S SIMILAR LIKE THIS IN
COLLABORATION?
>> FROM THE DOL SIDE THERE IS NOTHING
PLANNED AT THIS POINT FOR NEXT YEAR.
>> ARE YOU A POTENTIAL HOUSING PROVIDER OR
EMPLOYMENT PROVIDER?
>> HOUSING?
>> OKAY.
>> HOUSING THROUGH THE CITY SUB RECIPIENT
PERHAPS.
>> I PRESUME YOURE FAMILIAR WITH THE
CONTINUUM CARE?
>> I SERVE ON IT, THANK YOU.
>> ILLINOIS?
INDIANA?
>> ILLINOIS?
>> I HAD TO TAKE OFF THE MUTE. MY
QUESTION, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, ONE WAS ON THE DOL
MONEY WAS THERE AN ADMINISTRATIVE TASK?
>> THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATIVE CAP, BUT
CERTAINLY YOU'LL BE JUDGED ON YOUR PROPOSAL AND
DELIVERING THE OBJECTIVES OF THE SGA AND THE
COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT. SO WHILE THERE IS NO CAP
THERE IS A SENSE OF PROPORTIONALITY THAT'S ESSENTIAL
TO THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.
>> CERTAINLY, THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT
IS THE DEFINITION FOR THE EPISODE FOR THE THREE
EPISODES OF HOMELESSNESS? HOW LONG IS A EPISODE? IS
IT JUST ONE NIGHT OR MULTIPLE NIGHTS?
>> ONE NIGHT IS AN EPISODE, ONE OR MORE.
>> WERE THERE ANY PERFORMANCE MEASURES,
SPECIFICALLY ASSOCIATED IN THE SGA?
>> NO EXPLICIT ONES FROM THE HUD
PROSPECTIVE WE HAVE THE
ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT THERE, ANNUAL OUTCOME
OBJECTIVES ARE CONTAINED THERE.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO ILLINOIS I THINK WAS
NEXT. THAT WAS ILLINOIS. INDIANA?
LOUISIANA?
MAINE?
>> EXPLAIN, CAN HOMELESS VETERANS
REINTEGRATION PROGRAM BONDS BE USED TO MATCH THE
SHELTER IN PLUS CARE?
>> IF IT'S CASH, AND THAT CASH CAN BE USED
TO ACQUIRE A BUILDING OR REHABILITATE A BUILDING OR
PAY FOR HUD OPERATING COSTS THEN YES.
>> I WAS THINKING OF SHELTER PLUS CARE AND
THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICE, TRAINING AND SUPPORT DOLLARS
AVAILABLE UNDER THE HPRP PROGRAM, MAINE HAS A HPRP
AWARD.
>> IT'S NOT USED TO SERVE PEOPLE.
>> IT IS BE SERVED BUT, THE IDEA WOULD BE
TO CO-ENROLL HVRP VETERANS --
>> THIS IS JOHN IN NEW YORK. HRP SERVICE
FUNDING DOES NOT COVER ANYBODY WHO MOVES INTO
PERMANENT HOUSING. THE SERVICE DOLLARS CAN NOT BE
USED FOR TENANTS OF PERMANENT HOUSING.
>> THAT DOES REMIND ME, THAT'S JUST FOR
TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. GOOD POINT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU MAINE, AND JOHN TOO.
>> MARYLAND.
>> MARYLAND?
MASSACHUSETTS?
>> WE HAVE A QUESTION. I CAN GET MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE ELIGIBLE HOMELESS COMMUNITY
PROVIDED, IT'S RATHER CLEAR THAT LOCAL WIBS ARE THE
ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS FOR DOL FUNDS, COULD YOU TELL US
WHO WOULD BE MORE ELIGIBLE FOR HOMELESS COMMUNITY
FRONTS IN?
>> ESSENTIALLY ANY NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION
WHO HAS A C STATUS, ANY CITY OR STATE, PUBLIC
HOUSING AUTHORITY, IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF
PROGRAM YOU'RE APPLYING FOR FROM HUD. BUT ANY
HOMELESS PROVIDER IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE
FOR ONE OF THE TWO HUD HOMELESS PROGRAMS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ANOTHER MASSACHUSETTS QUESTION?
>> YES, GO AHEAD.
>> FOR THE DOL AGREEMENT, CAN A ONE STOP --
ONE STOPS ARE CHARTERED IN OUR REGION, SO CAN THEY BE
AN APPLICANT?
>> DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION?
>> YES, WE DID.
WE'RE HUDDLING HERE, HOLD ON.
>> NO. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE LOCAL WORK
FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD.
>> SECOND QUESTION, IF YOU'RE REGION COVERS
YOUR WIA REGION COVERS MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM
THEN YOU'LL NEED AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OF THE
CONTINUUMS, AM I CORRECT?
>> COULD YOU RESTATE THAT PLEASE.
>> IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM
WITHIN THE AREA IN WHICH THE LWIB COVERS, THEN ALL
THOSE CONTINUUMS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE
PROJECT, AM I CORRECT?
>> RIGHT. UNDERSTAND, IT'S JUST AN
INCIDENTAL COVERAGE, IF ONE CONTINUUM IS COVERING %
OF THE AREA, THEN YOU WOULDN'T. OTHERWISE, YES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MICHIGAN?
>> HI, YES. ON THE FUNDING BLENDING
BETWEEN DOL AND HUD, WE ANTICIPATE THAT ALL THE
SUPPORT SERVICE NEEDS OF THE CLIENTS WILL BE PROVIDED
EITHER UNDER THE DOL FUND OR UNDER LEVERAGE FUNDS.
CAN THE HUD FUNDS BE USED AT ALL FOR SUPPORT
SERVICES?
>> HUD FUNDS FOR THIS INITIATIVE CAN NOT BE
USED AT ALL FOR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. ONCE THE RATING
FACTORS TO GET A HIGH SCORE HUD IS TO IDENTIFY OTHER
SOURCES OF FUNDING IN ADDITION TO THE EMPLOYMENT
ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED FROM DOL.
THIS IS FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR SHELTER PLUS
CARE GRANTEES IN THAT HUD DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY OF THE
SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. AND FOR INSTANCE IN THE
INITIATIVE TODAY, THE EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE WOULD BE
PROVIDED.
FOR SHELTER PLUS CARE NOT EVEN THAT WOULD
BE AVAILABLE.
SO NO, HUD FUNDS CAN NOT BE USED FOR
SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR THIS INITIATIVE.
>> THANK YOU,
>> THANK YOU. MICHIGAN?
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FOR MICHIGAN RELATIVE
TO SORT OF THE MIX OF EMPLOYMENT SERVICES OR
EMPLOYMENT SUPPORTS AND OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES. CAN
YOU GIVE US ANY GUIDELINES RELEVANT TO THAT?
>> I BELIEVE THE SGA INDICATES THAT THERE
CAN BE OTHER SERVICES IN ADDITION TO EMPLOYMENT
SERVICES, DO YOU HAVE ANY GUIDELINES OUT FOR PORTIONS
OF THOSE?
>> NO. BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU TO READ THE
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT DEFINITION AND OF COURSE THE
RATING CRITERIA THAT WOULD GIVE YOU AS MUCH ANSWER AS
WE CAN GIVE YOU.
>> MINNESOTA?
>> MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH TIMING, I
GUESS.
WE'RE WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG YOU
THINK THAT YOU WILL TAKE TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS,
MAKE A DECISION. AND WHEN YOU MAKE THE DECISION, IS
THAT GOING TO BE THE DATE OF THE GRANT AWARD LETTER?
>> THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR FUNDS THAT ARE
COMMITTED TO THIS COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT OR THIS
PROPOSAL ARE FISCAL YEAR ' MONIES WHICH MEANS THE
AWARD MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER TH.
IT'S PROBABLY AN AWARD THAT DOL WILL MAKE DURING THE
MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
>> AND WE'LL (HUD) CERTAINLY REVIEW IT AT A PACE
TO KEEP UP WITH THAT. THIS WILL BE JOINTLY AWARDED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MISSISSIPPI. MISSISSIPPI?
>> MISSOURI?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MISSOURI.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU DESCRIBED WHAT
DOL CLASSIFIED AS ELIGIBLE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES UNDER
THIS?
>> AGAIN, I WOULD LOOK AT THE SGA. IT'S
PRETTY COMPLETE AS FAR AS WHAT THE SERVICES ARE TO BE
RENDERED. THEY'RE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT SERVICES AND
THAT'S DEFINED IN THE SGA. AND OF COURSE IN YOUR
RATING CRITERIA THERE ARE OTHER DESCRIPTIONS OF
SERVICES THAT WOULD LEAD TO CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT.
BEYOND THAT WE CAN NOT OFFER ANY FURTHER GUIDANCE.
>> SECOND QUESTION FOR MISSOURI. REGARDING
THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE CHRONIC HOMELESS
PERSONS, CAN SUPPLEMENTAL DATA BE SUBMITTED IN
ADDITION TO THE TABLE AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE?
>> YOU WANT TO GIVE ME A HINT OR A
SUGGESTION ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT BE?
>> SURE. HOMELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS, THE
ACUTE CARE PUBLIC PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, SUBSTANCE
ABUSE AGENCIES?
>> SURE. I MEAN, THIS IS NEW GROUND FOR
HUD, JUST AS IT IS FOR YOU.
WE REALIZE THAT WE RECENTLY RELEASED THE
DEFINITION ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT UNDERSTANDING
WITH THE LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED.
BUT TRY TO BE AS EXPLICIT AS POSSIBLE.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> NEW YORK.
>> CAN WE ASK SOME VERY, VERY, QUICK
QUESTIONS FOR Missouri?
>> YES.
>> IN THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARDS, IF
THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD AS AN AREA IS NOT
INTERESTED IN APPLYING, BUT SERVICES IN THE ONE STOPS
FOR THEM, ALTHOUGH WE MAY NOT TECHNICALLY BE THE
GRANT RECIPIENT, IF WE GET A LETTER OF EXTREME
SUPPORT FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION, ARE WE ALLOWED TO
APPLY FOR THAT?
>> AGAIN, THE ELIGIBILITY IS A LOCAL WORK
FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD AND THAT'S THE ANSWER.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> NEW YORK HAS A QUESTION.
>> WHAT WOULD BE DEFINED AS A FISCAL AGENT
UNDER THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD?
OR GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD BE A
FISCAL AGENT?
>> I CAN THINK OF ONE OTHER GRANT WE HAVE
THAT OFFERS AN EXAMPLE. THE RICHMOND, VA LOCAL WORK
FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD ACTUALLY COMPETED THEIR FISCAL
RESPONSIBILITIES TO A CONTRACTOR, AND A MAINE
ENTITY APPLIED ON THEIR BEHALF. AND THAT MAINE ENTITY BECAME THEIR WIA
LEGITIMATE FISCAL AGENT. SO THERE ARE SOME
SITUATIONS WHERE LOCAL BOARDS MAY HAVE FISCAL AGENTS
LIKE THAT AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE SGA IS TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE LOCAL WORK FORCE INVESTMENT
BOARD THAT IS LEADING THE EFFORT.
>> WOULD YOU HAVE TO BE A PREEXISTING
FISCAL AGENT OR WOULD YOU TURN THAT AT THIS POINT?
>> PREEXISTING.
>> NEW YORK HAS ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING
THE SHELTER PLUS CARE. THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
FUNDING WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT
SHELTER PLUS CARE SERVICES MATCH, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS YET, SO THAT
WOULD NOT BE A MATCHED AMOUNT.
>> WOULD YOU -- OUR UNDERSTANDING OUT HERE
IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PARTNER
SERVICE RESOURCES FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES, ALONG WITH
THE HUD RESOURCES TO MAKE A PACKAGE OF SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING SERVICES AVAILABLE. WHILE I UNDERSTAND DOL
DOLLARS COULD NOT BE USED FOR THE FULL RANGE OF
SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, IT SEEMS A BIT AT ODDS WITH YOUR
CONCEPT, EVEN THOUGH THE DOLLARS AREN'T IN HAND,
OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE AWARDED CONCURRENTLY.
>> RIGHT. JOHN AS YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED
SOME WONDERFUL QUESTIONS FROM YOU RECENTLY. WE HAVE
DRAFTED RESPONSES TO THOSE, AND WE'LL BE SENDING
THEM OUT RELATIVELY SHORTLY, THEY'RE IN CLEARANCE IN
BOTH DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE ANSWER TO IT IS IN THERE. AND ONCE
WE HAVE ISSUED THIS, WE'LL MAKE IT AVAILABLE AS WELL
AS THE TRANSCRIPT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE. WE DO
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT ONCE THE AWARDS ARE MADE
THAT YOU WOULD HAVE DOL FUNDS. WE'RE CONSIDERING
THAT IN THE RESPONSE, LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> NEW YORK HAS ANOTHER QUESTION.
>> ONE MORE FROM NEW YORK.
>> ONE MORE YES, THE FIRST PART IS CAN THE
BOARD DESIGNATE A NON-PROFIT HAS THE FISCAL AGENT AND
CAN THE BOARD IN THAT ESSENCE IN THAT EFFORT SUPPORT
MORE THAN ONE APPLICATION?
>> IT HAS TO BE -- WE HAVE TO STICK WITH
THE SGA. AND IT TALKS ABOUT ELIGIBLE AS A LOCAL WORK
FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD AND THEIR FISCAL AGENT. AND
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CURRENTLY IN PLACE AND NOT
CREATED FOR THIS COMPETITION.
>> ONE LAST QUESTION FROM NEW YORK. IF YOU
HAVE IT THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.
>> REQUESTS, CAN YOU REVIEW AGAIN IN THE
SGA. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING WHEN YOU NEED TO REPEAT
THESE BUYS, THE TH IS A DEADLINE, AND SOMETHING
ABOUT HAVING TO MAIL IT BY THE TH.
>> THE DEADLINE IS AUGUST TH, BUT THERE
ARE SOME -- THERE IS SOME INFORMATION IN THERE
WARNING YOU ABOUT MAIL DELAYS, AS YOU KNOW THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAIL IS RADIATED AT A DISTANT
LOCATION THAT CAUSES FURTHER DELAYS.
>> CASSANDRA DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE.
>> THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY, IF YOU'RE
MAILING IT AND YOU'RE USING THE POSTAL SERVICE YOU MAY
WANT TO MAIL IT AHEAD OF TIME SINCE WE ARE HAVING
PROBLEMS GETTING OUR MAIL IN NOW. THERE ARE SOME
STATES THAT YOU SHOULD MAIL IT TWO DAYS PRIOR TWO OR
FIVE DAYS BEFORE.
YOU MAY WANT TO TRY ANOTHER SERVICE CARRIER
TO GET THOSE APPLICATIONS IN HERE ON TIME.
>> A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF YOU ARE TO
MAIL IT OR FED EX IT, IS THAT APPROPRIATE?
>> YES.
>> BUT IF IT'S MARKED AUGUST TH FED EX,
YOU'VE DONE WHAT YOU'VE NEED TO DO?
>> WELL, NO. EVEN IF IT'S MARKED THE TH,
WE STILL HAVE TO RECEIVE IT ON THE TH. BECAUSE
ALSO IN THE SGA INDICATES "HAND DELIVERED," THAT'S
CONSIDERED A HAND DELIVERED PACKAGE, SO WE SHOULD
STILL HAVE IT IN OUR POSSESSION ON THE TH.
>> ONE AT A TIME.
>> WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU, PLEASE RESTATE IT?
>> IT SAYS IN THE SGA THAT HAND
DELIVERERS ARE DUE ON THE TH NOT THE TH. IF IT'S
MAILED, IT'S MAILED FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE TH. THAT
WOULD BE GOOD.
BUT IF YOU WERE HAND DELIVERING THAT, IT
HAD TO HAPPEN BY THE TH.
>> HOLD ON, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER IN A
SECOND. WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOK AT PART ONE
DELIVERY OF APPLICATION PROPOSALS.
>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT
QUESTION, I THINK YOU'VE FOUND AN ERROR. IT SHOULD
BE AUGUST TH. WHERE IT SAYS AUGUST -- TH.
WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND THE SOLICITATION WITH THE CORRECT
DATE. SO KNOW THAT IT WILL BE AUGUST TH AND WE'LL
CORRECT IT, NOT AUGUST TH?
>> WHERE DOES IT SAY AUGUST TH?
>> ON PAGE -- UNDER PART ONE, DOWN TO THE
SECTION WHICH SAYS "HAND DELIVERED PROPOSAL" THE
SECOND SENTENCE, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR SENTENCE HAND
DELIVERED APPLICATIONS MUST BE RECEIVED BY : P.M.
ON AUGUST TH, IT SHOULD READ AUGUST TH.
>> YOU MADE SOME DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE
POSTAL SERVICE AND FED EX.
>> THERE IS A DISTINCTION -- IF YOU SEND IT
BY U.S. POSTAL SERVICE YOU HAVE TO MAIL IT BEFORE
FIVE CLOCK THE TH, BUT IF IT'S FED EX, OR UPS, THEN
YOU DON'T -- YOU DON'T HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY
THE TH OR YOU JUST HAVE DO MAIL IT AND HOPE IT GETS
THERE BY THE TH. IF YOU DO IT -- THERE IS A --
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN USING THE POSTAL SERVICE AND FED
EX, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AS IT'S WRITTEN.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. YES.
>> I'M NOT SURE I HAVE CLARIFY. IF I
UNDERSTAND THE DISCUSSION, THE PROPOSALS MUST BE
RECEIVED IN YOUR HANDS AT DOL/HUD ON AUGUST TH,
IRRESPECTIVE OF THE MODE IN WHICH YOU SEND IT. THEY
HAVE TO BE RECEIVED IN YOUR HAND.
>> THAT'S NOT THE WAY I READ IT.
>> LOOK UNDER C, LATE APPLICATION --
>> IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THE DELIVERY OF
THE APPLICATIONS AND WHEN THEY'RE DUE IN THE OFFICE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE OVERNIGHT
MAILING, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE IRRADIATED TOO. DO YOU
HAVE TO GIVE MORE THAN OVERNIGHT?
>> NOT FOR FED EX.
>> NOT FOR FED EX JUST FOR THE U.S. POSTAL
SERVICE.
>> OKAY. LET'S GET BACK TO YOUR SEQUENCE.
WE HAD JUST FINISHED NEW YORK. THE NEXT STATE IS
NORTH DAKOTA. OHIO?
>> THIS IS THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
CAN THE APPLICANTS BE A STATE WIA BOARD IF IT'S
REPRESENTING A COLLABORATIVE OF SEVERAL LOCAL WIA
BOARDS.
>> IT SHOULD BE THE LOCAL WORK FORCE
INVESTMENT BOARDS. IF IT'S SEVERAL WORK FORCE
INVESTMENT BOARDS -- OKAY. WE WILL POST A BETTER
ANSWER FOR YOU WITH THE TRANSCRIPT. WE'RE NOT SURE
THE FULL ANSWER AND WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE
THAT'S NOT CORRECT OR COMPLETE.
>> OKAY. AND IF THAT FOLLOW UP WILL YOU
POST THE ANSWER, IF THE ANSWER IS YES, A STATE WIA
BOARD CAN BE THE APPLICANT, IF YOU COULD ALSO ANSWER
IN THAT FOLLOW UP IF THE INDIVIDUAL LOCALITIES HAVE
TO BE IDENTIFIED IN THE GRANTED, OR IF THEY CAN BE
IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING THE
GRANT?
>> THAT LATTER PART WE CAN TELL YOU. YOU
NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE WITHIN THE PROPOSAL. WE NEED
TO KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. ONLY BECAUSE OF
THE HUD CONNECTION IN COLLABORATION.
THAT ALL HAS TO BE DETAILED AND DEFINED AND
NOT SUBJECT TO FUTURE DECISIONS.
>> GREAT. WELL, THE INTENT WOULD BE TO
HAVE THE STATE HOUSING AGENCY APPLY FOR WHAT HUD
KNOWS AS THE BALANCE OF STATE APPLICATION THEN A
STATE WIA BOARD COULD APPLY. WE COULD STILL IDENTIFY
THE LOCALITIES.
>> WE'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER IN THE
TRANSCRIPT TO FOLLOW.
>> OHIO.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION.
HOW MANY DAYS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE D.C.
TRIP?
>> THAT ODEP OFFICE OF DISABILITY
EMPLOYMENT DRAINING POLICY CONFERENCE IS A THREE TO
FOUR DAY EVENT.
>> CAN YOU SAY MORE ABOUT THE ROLE OF ODEP?
HOW MUCH OF OUR STAFF TIME DO WE NEED TO
BUDGET TO COORDINATE WITH ODEP?
>> IN TERMS OF THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT,
OR IN TERMS OF THE POLICY CONFERENCE THAT'S AN ANNUAL
EVENT?
>> IN TERMS OF THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT,
IN TERMS OF RUNNING THE PROJECT.
>> OUR ROLE IS TO WORK WITH YOU IN THE
AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE SGA. IT'S A POINT
OF COMMUNICATION AND CONTACT. I'M NOT SURE I CAN
DEFINE FOR YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT WOULD
BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL.
>> OKLAHOMA. OKLAHOMA?
>> YES, IS THERE SOME EXPECTATION OF THE
SIZE OF THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER TO BE
SERVED, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT HUD WANTS A DENSITY OF
LESS THAN ?
>> YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING PROGRAM. THE PERMANENT HOUSING COMPONENT HAS A
STATUTORY LIMITATION OF PERSONS IN A FACILITY.
THERE IS FLEXIBILITY IN THAT REQUIREMENT. WE
CERTAINLY HAVE HAD BUILDINGS THAT SERVE MORE PEOPLE.
THERE IS NO SPECIFIC INTENDED NUMBER OF PERSONS TO BE
SERVED.
WE REALIZE WITH THE COST OF HOUSING PER
YEAR IN A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SERVE
A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY
PREDISPOSITION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'LL BE ABLE
TO SERVE.
THE LEVEL OF FMR'S VARY SO DRAMATICALLY
FROM NEW YORK CITY TO WYOMING THAT THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE SERVED IS GOING TO VARY A BIT AS WELL.
>> AND WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION IS
NECESSARY FOR THE NUMBER OF CHRONICALLY HOMELESS
PEOPLE? CAN YOU JUST GIVE A PERCENTAGE OR AN
ESTIMATE?
>> WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT
EARLIER.
YOUR CONTINUUM OF CARE APPLICATION IF
YOU'RE WITHIN A CONTINUUM OF CARE AND I PRESUME YOU
ARE, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO HUD BY JULY , CONTAINS
THAT FIGURE. THAT WOULD BE SOME GOOD DOCUMENTATION
TO INCLUDE. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT,
FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T HAVE
STRICT DESCRIPTIONS OF EVIDENCE REQUIRED. SO JUST
GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT IN TERMS OF INFORMATION YOU
HAVE AVAILABLE. MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE A HOMELESS
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT THEY CAN GET
PROXIES FOR CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS ON. IF YOU DON'T
YET HAVE A HMIS THEN JUST USE WHAT YOU DO HAVE.
>> OREGON?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, TECHNICAL FOLLOW UP
QUESTION ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE COLLABORATIVE
AGREEMENT.
ABOUT THE PAGES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE
SURE THE PART IN THE SGA IT THAT TALKS ABOUT SECTION
COLLABORATION. THAT'S THE PART THAT'S SUBJECT TO
THE PAGE LIMIT?
>> CORRECT.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, JOE.
>> PENNSYLVANIA?
>> WE HAVE A QUESTION. CLARIFICATION, IF
WE WERE TO -- THIS IS A TWO PART QUESTION. IF WE
WERE TO PROPOSE TO SERVE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS
SINGLE INDIVIDUALS CAN WE DO NEW UNITS AND
EXISTING UNITS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR CONTINUUM.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, ARE WE ABLE TO PROPOSE UNDER THE
HUD PORTION, A PROPOSAL THAT'S LESS MONEY THAN THE
TO MILLION DOLLARS?
>> LET ME RESTATE WHAT I THINK YOU STATED
TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT. YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT
HALF THE PEOPLE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SERVE WITH
EMPLOYMENT ARE ALREADY IN HOUSING?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE DO HAVE
PERMANENT UNITS CURRENTLY AND SAFE HAVEN UNITS.
>> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS LIMITED TO
SERVING ONLY CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE.
BY DEFINITION, THAT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE
CURRENTLY LIVING ON THE STREETS OR IN EMERGENCY
SHELTERS.
>> SAFE HAVEN IS ALSO FOR THE CHRONICALLY
HOMELESS.
>> SAFE HAVEN IS NOT EMERGENCY SHELTER,
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT LIVING ON THE STREET. PERSONS
LIVING IN SAFE HAVENS SHOULD NOT BE SERVED BY THIS
INITIATIVE.
>> YOU HAVE TO SERVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING
ON THE STREETS OR IN EMERGENCY SHELTERS.
>> PENNSYLVANIA, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT MATCH REQUIREMENTS.
>> RHODE ISLAND?
>> YES, IF A STATE OR LOCALITY HAS ALREADY
RECEIVED A CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT GRANT, IS IT
PRECLUDED FROM APPLYING UNDER THIS SOLICITATION? WE
KNOW IT'S -- THE TARGET POPULATION IS DIFFERENT?
>> NO, IT DOES -- IT DOES NOT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> TENNESSEE?
>> YES,
>> PENNSYLVANIA, CAN WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP
QUESTION.
>> I'M ALMOST THROUGH THE RUN DOWN AND
WE'LL COME BACK TO EVERYBODY.
>> TENNESSEE?
>> YES, ONE QUESTION FROM KNOCKSVILLE. ARE
INDIVIDUALS PARTICIPATING RECEIVING SERVICES IN THE
PROGRAM, DOES THE ONE STRIKE RULE FOR PUBLIC HOUSING
RECIPIENTS APPLY TO THEM?
>> WE -- I DO NOT BELIEVE SO, BUT THAT'S
NOT THE ANSWER YOU NEED TO HEAR. SO WE WILL GET BACK
TO YOU ON THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DOES APPLY. WE
KNOW THAT HALF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE HAVE BEEN
INCARCERATED.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM NASHVILLE. WHERE
IT SAYS TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION AT THE LOCALITY
INCLUDES AT LEAST PERSONS WHO ARE CURRENTLY
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, -- DID NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER,
DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY JUST THROW YOU OUT BECAUSE IT
WOULD BE CONFLICTING INFORMATION?
>> YES, IT DOES.
>> SO YOUR CONTINUUM CARE HAS TO SAY ?
>> WELL, IT'S NOT YOUR CONTINUUM CARE. THE
LOCALITY IN WHICH YOU ARE SERVING PEOPLE HAS TO HAVE
AT LEAST . IF YOURE PROPOSING TO -- YES YOUR
CONTINUUM CHART WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT. IN MANY
INSTANCES -- LET ME GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF LOS ANGELES,
WHERE THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND OTHER SOME ODD
CITIES ARE ALL IN ONE CONTINUUM OF CARE. THEY'LL
HAVE A CHRONICALLY HOMELESS NUMBERS, BUT IF ONE
PARTICULAR PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO SERVE IT, JUST IN
THEIR LITTLE LOCALE, THEY CAN'T USE THE CONTINUUM OF
CARE FIGURE; THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO SERVE THAT
LARGER GEOGRAPHIC AREA. SO AS THE SGA STATES IT,
THERE MUST BE AT LEAST CHRONICALLY HOMELESS
PERSONS IN THE LOCALITY IN WHICH YOU WILL BE SERVING
PEOPLE.
>> THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION, THERE IS
INFORMATION AVAILABLE, SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION
DEMONSTRATING THAT THE NUMBER IS LARGER THAN THE
NUMBER IDENTIFIED IN THE CONTINUUM CARE, IS THAT
SUFFICIENT OR WILL YOU BE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED?
>> IF YOUR CONTINUUM OF CARE, WHICH
INCLUDES REPRESENTATION FROM THE ENTIRE NON-PROFIT
COMMUNITY, FOUNDATIONS, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, ALL
HAVE AGREED ON A NUMBER, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME
OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THEY WERE
WRONG.
>> WHERE DOES THE NUMBER COME FROM?
>> WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A FIGURE THAT WAS
HIGH ENOUGH, GIVEN THAT WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT FOUR
GRANTS TO AWARD THAT WE WOULD MAKE A DENT IN
HOMELESSNESS WITH THESE FOUR GRANTS.
>> ONE LAST QUESTION FROM TENNESSEE?
>> QUICKLY. THANK YOU.
>> SURE, IT'S ABOUT OUTCOMES, -- JUST IN
TERMS OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE SPEAKING ABOUT, IN TERMS OF
THE GRANTS, THIS IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. ARE YOU
LOOKING AT A PLACE WHERE FOR EXAMPLE, IN NASHVILLE
ON, IT WOULD BE REALLY A BRAND NEW COLLABORATIVE AND
AN INNOVATIVE THING FOR THE EMPLOYMENT. THE LOCAL
WORK FORCE GROUP TO BE TAKING ON THIS KIND OF A
PROJECT, AND IN ONE YEAR OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS, ARE YOU
LOOKING AT START UPS AND BUILDING TO GREATER OUTCOMES
FOR FUTURE, OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FUNDING A PROJECT
THAT'S UP AND RUNNING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THINGS
HAPPENING?
WE'RE REALLY INTO STARTING SOMETHING NEW.
>> SORRY FOR THE DELAY, ONE OF THE
OBJECTIVES OF THIS COMPETITION IS TO DEVELOP NEW
MODELS AND NEW EXAMPLES. SO YOU'RE INSTINCTS ARE
CORRECT, WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO
DEMONSTRATE NEW RELATIONSHIPS, BRINGING TOGETHER
THESE TWO UNIVERSES IN NEW AND INNOVATIVE WAYS THAT
SERVE THE POPULATION WITH CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. SO
WE'RE -- THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT SPOKEN TO IN THE
GRANT APPLICATION AND ONE WHICH WILL BE EVALUATED.
>> SO, IF I COULD ASK ONE MORE REALLY QUICK
FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT.
ABOUT THE OUTCOMES, WE'RE GOING TO BE
NEEDING TO DO CONSISTENT BUILDING TO MAINTAIN A
REALLY GOOD STRONG MODEL OVER THE LONG TERM OF THE
PROJECT. CAN WE INCLUDE THOSE SOFTER OUTCOMES FOR
THE FIRST YEAR AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE PLACED IN THE
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL?
>> ON THE EMPLOYMENT SIDE, YOU PROBABLY
NOTICE THAT THERE WERE NO TARGET NUMBERS, IT'S IN
RECOGNITION OF THAT REALITY. THIS REALLY ISN'T A
NUMBERS GRANT SO MUCH AS A SYSTEM CHANGE GRANT. KEEP
THAT IN MIND AS YOU READ THE SGA.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT KIND OF A
GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
>> TEXAS. WERE WE AT TEXAS?
AND THE LAST STATE, THE FIRST GO ROUND IS
VIRGINIA.
>> WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM VIRGINIA. THE
NUMBERS ON THIS SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT YOU'RE REALLY
LOOKING AT FOR VERY, VERY, LARGE PROJECT. EVEN
LOOKING AT MORE THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH AND
IS THE MOST YOU CAN HAVE AT ONE FACILITY. THAT'S
ONLY A MILLION AND A HALF ON HUD SIDE AND WOULDN'T
EARN BE AS MUCH AS YOU'RE PROPOSING TO PUT FORWARD IN
A GRANT, AND, , IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF
MONEY ON THE LABOR SIDE AS WELL.
YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR -- IT SEEMS LIKE
IT'S REALLY TARGETED TOWARDS THE VERY LARGER AREAS
THAT REALLY ALREADY HAVE THINGS IN PLACE THAT THEY
CAN FUND WITH THE FUNDS. IT'S NOT TARGETED TOWARDS
PLACES THAT MAYBE HAVE TO CHRONICALLY
HOMELESS PEOPLE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO UNDERTAKE
THAT SIZE OF A PROJECT, IS THAT A CORRECT ASSESSMENT.
>> I DON'T THINK WE QUIET THOUGHT OF IT
THAT WAY, IN THE HISTORY OF WORKING ON HOMELESSNESS,
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ONLY FOCUSED ON CHRONIC
HOMELESSNESS IN TWO INITIATIVES, THIS IS THE SECOND
OF THOSE.
BOTH HAVE BEEN VERY MODEST IN TERMS OF THE
SIZE.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE SERVING
PLACES THAT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CHRONIC HOMELESS
POPULATION. AND THUS, THE NUMBER . SO WE COULD
TARGET AREAS THAT HAVE A CONCENTRATION IN CHRONIC
HOMELESSNESS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MINNESOTA.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY THE FUNDING AMOUNTS, TWO
TO THREE MILLION IS OVER THE ENTIRE TERM OF THE GRANT
AWARD. IF IT WAS SHELTER PLUS CARE, THAT WOULD BE
TWO TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS FOR FIVE YEARS, NOT TWO
TO THREE MILLION PER YEAR FOR EACH OF THE FIVE YEARS.
>> SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, THIS IS
CALIFORNIA, IS THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT
ARE NOT COVERED IN HERE, BUT THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING WE
WILL NEED TO PROVIDE THAT ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, MENTAL
HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT AND PRIMARY
HEALTHCARE, , ISN'T A LOT TO ADDRESS THAT.
>> YES, AND WE REALIZE THAT THERE MAY BE
COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE
TO APPLY GIVEN THE CHALLENGE OF JUST THAT, OF
IDENTIFYING RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FOR HEALTHCARE, MENTAL
HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, WE REALIZE THAT.
WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SHELTER PLUS CARE.
WE DON'T PROVIDE ANY SERVICES. WE GET FAR MORE
APPLICATIONS FOR SHELTER PLUS CARE THAN WE'RE ABLE TO
FUND.
SO WE'RE FAIRLY POSITIVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE
TO FIND COMMUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
INITIATIVE.
>> ALSO, THIS PROPOSAL OR THESE COOPERATIVE
AGREEMENTS ARE DESIGNED TO LEVERAGE AND COORDINATE
RESOURCES, NOT TO DEVELOP A BUDGET TO SUPPLY THEM.
SO THE MONIES ARE THERE FOR STRATEGIC
PLANNING FOR COORDINATION, TO FILL IN THE BLANKS THAT
ARE REQUIRED TO BE FILLED IN TO BRING OTHER RESOURCE
TO BEAR. SO IT'S MORE OF A SYSTEMS CHANGE APPROACH
THAN A DIRECT SERVICE APPROACH. ALTHOUGH DIRECT
SERVICE HAPPENS AS A NATURAL OUTCOME.
>> QUESTION?
>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO OUR ORDER
AND REPEAT THE STATES, ALASKA?
>> I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. ARIZONA?
>> NO QUESTIONS.
>> CALIFORNIA?
>> YES. YES. SAN JOSE. JUST TO CLARIFY
ON THE PAGES AND WHAT'S INCLUDED AND WHAT'S NOT, I
JUST WANT TODAY CLARIFY, THE HUD NARRATIVE AND
APPLICATION AND ALL THOSE CERTIFICATIONS, THOSE ARE
NOT INCLUDED IN THE PAGES, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> SO THEN THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT,
COMMITMENT AND COOPERATION THAT SEEM TO BE USED
INTERCHANGEABLY THROUGH OUT THE SGA, THOSE ARE ALSO
NOT INCLUDED IN THE ?
>> THAT'S CORRECT AGAIN.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> CALIFORNIA?
>> I HAD A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO
CONTINUATION OF THE MATCHING. AND ALSO FOR THE
MATCHING PART. IT'S % OVER THE THREE YEARS OR THE
FIVE YEARS IN?
>> WELL IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE PROGRAM THAT
YOU'RE APPLYING FOR.
>> IN THE SHELTER PLUS CARE PROGRAM IT'S A
DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH OVER FIVE YEARS. IT CAN BE
CASH OR IT CAN BE IN KIND. FOR THE SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING PROGRAM, IT'S A THREE YEAR GRANT TERM. AND
IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTIVITY THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR.
AND THE SGA BEGINNING ON PAGE WILL WALK YOU
THROUGH THE DETAILS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT MATCH
REQUIREMENTS BY LAW FOR ACQUISITION, REHAB, OPERATING
COSTS, LEASING, ET CETERA. BUT IT'S CLEARLY LAID OUT
THERE.
>> WHOEVER IS ASKING THE QUESTION, YOU'RE
CUTTING UP, WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND YOU.
>> IS IT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE $,?
>> WHAT $,?
>> FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT. IS
THE MATCHING REGARD TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT,
OR IS IT JUST FOR THE HUD PORTION?
>> THE MATCH ONLY RELATES TO THE HUD GRANT.
>> OKAY, THAT'S PART OF THE GRANT. IS THAT
A SEPARATE PAGES IN ADDITION TO THE DOL?
>> HUD DOESN'T HAVE A PAGE LIMITATION.
>> BUT IT IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION AND
PROPOSAL FROM THE EMPLOYMENT PROPOSAL WHICH IS
PAGES AND THE COLLABORATION PROPOSAL WHICH IS
PAGES?
>> RIGHT, I UNDERSTOOD THAT, THANK YOU.
>> ANY ONE ELSE FROM THE BIG STATE OF
CALIFORNIA? ARE TENANT CONTRIBUTIONS AN
>> APPROPRIATE SOURCE OF MATCH FOR SPC?
>> THEY ARE. THOUGH IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE,
WHEN YOU'LL ONLY BE SERVING PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS AND OTHER
PERSONS LIVING IN EMERGENCY SHELTER THAT YOU'RE GOING
TO GENERATE A LOT OF RENTAL INCOME FROM THEM.
SO I WOULDN'T CERTAINLY BE COUNTING ON A
WHOLE LOT ON THEY'RE INCOME TO PROVIDE ALL THE
SERVICES THAT THEY'LL NEED.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA. THE
LETTER FROM THE GOVERNOR REGARDING OLMSTEAD, IS THAT
A REQUIREMENT FROM THE GOVERNOR THAT HE DESIGNATED
SIGNATORY FOR THE STATE.
>> IT'S THE GOVERNOR OR HIS OR HER
DESIGNEE. IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THE
GOVERNOR HAS APPOINTED TO TAKE THE LEAD IN THAT STATE
ON THE ISSUE.
>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THREE SEPARATE
APPLICATIONS, DOES THAT MEAN YOU WANT THEM SUBMITTED
AS THREE SEPARATE DOCUMENTS, NOT WITH THE SAME
HEADER/FOOTER?
>> THE IMPORTANT ELEMENT IS THAT WE'RE
CLEAR ON WHICH PROPOSAL WE'RE READING. IF IT'S THE
ONE FOR THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT DOL FUNDS IT SHOULD
BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AS SUCH AND READ AS SUCH. AND
THE NEXT CHAPTER MAY BE COLLABORATION, AND THE THIRD
CHAPTER WOULD BE YOUR HUD PROPOSAL.
>> REFERRING TO PAGE , IN THE FIRST
COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS "IDENTIFY HOW THE DOL FUND HUD
FUNDS ARE proportionate TO EACH OTHER AND HOW THE
PROPOSED PROJECT IS COST EFFECTIVE." I UNDERSTAND THE
NEED FOR DEMONSTRATING COST EFFECTIVENESS, BUT CAN
YOU EXPLAIN HOW IT WOULD BE PROPORTIONATE TO EACH
OTHER.
>> WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A BALANCE
BETWEEN BOTH EFFORTS, THE HOUSING PORTION AND THE
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PORTION. AND I CAN'T GIVE YOU
ANY SPECIFIC NUMBERS. WE DIDN'T STATE ANY SPECIFIC
NUMBERS. BUT THERE SHOULD BE A PROPORTIONALITY
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO THAT YOU DESCRIBE AND
MAKE SENSE WITH NO SPECIFIC NUMBERS IN MIND.
BACK TO THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THREE
DISTINCT PROPOSALS. PLUS BE SURE THAT WHEN YOU START
THE NEXT CHAPTER OR SECTION YOU GO TO A NEW PAGE
HEADER, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE SEPARATED AND GIVEN TO
DIFFERENT PANELS TO REVIEW. SO THEY NEED TO BE
COMPARTMENTALIZED SO THAT'S EASY TO ACCOMPLISH.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM CALIFORNIA?
>> ANOTHER QUESTION. CAN HOUSING
COORDINATORS OR HOUSING ADVOCATES BE CONSIDERED IN
THE APPLICATION IF THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE
LANDLORDS?
>> SORRY, WE WERE CONFERRING. THE -- THE
RULING THAT WE'VE USED IN PAST COMPETITIONS AND THAT
WE WILL BE APPLYING HERE IS IF THAT ACTIVITY IS
INTEGRAL TO OPERATING THE HOUSING, IF WITHOUT IT YOU
ARE NOT ABLE TO OPERATE THE HOUSING, THEN IT IS A ELIGIBLE
OPERATING COST.
IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE DEFINITION OF
OPERATING COST ON THE BUDGETS, IT GIVES SOME EXAMPLES
ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT IT'S -- IT'S SPECIFIC
ACTIVITIES THAT ARE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO OPERATE THE
HOUSING.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA.
>> OKAY, -- DOL MONEY EVEN IF IT COMES
THROUGH THE STATE ELIGIBLE FOR MATCH?
>> WELL, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE
SUBMITTED BY AN ORGANIZATION IN NEW YORK THAT
SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT QUESTION. THE ANSWER HAS BEEN
DRAFTED AND IS IN FINAL CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE TWO
DEPARTMENTS AND THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE WITH THE
TRANSCRIPT ON THE WEBSITES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO COLORADO. ANY
QUESTIONS FROM COLORADO ON THE SECOND GO AROUND?
>> JUST ONE REALLY QUICK ONE. THERE'S
SOMETHING INTERESTING A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE, IT
TALKS ABOUT SERVING CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PERSONS WHO
INDICATE A WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT THE EMPLOYMENT
DESIGN. DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN TERMINATE HOUSING
ASSISTANCE TO RESIDENTS WHO BECOME NON-COMPLAINT WITH
THE SUPPORT?
>> NO. IN THAT PORTION OF THE SGA IT
SUGGESTS THERE SHOULD BE AN INTENTION THAT THOSE
PERSONS PARTICIPATE, BUT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT
YES, AT THIS POINT YOU MUST PARTICIPATE.
>> SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY INDICATE
THEY'RE WILLING TO COMPLY YOU PUT THEM IN THE HOUSING
AND THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE ANYMORE, WE
STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE SHELTER PLUS CARE
ASSISTANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NON-COMPLAINT WITH THE
PROGRAM?
>> IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE SAFE HAVEN
APPROACH OF LOW DEMAND.
>> OKAY.
>> CONNECTICUT?
>> YES, WE HAVE A QUESTION.
>> IN TERMS OF THE HUD APPLICATION, JUST TO
CLARIFY, CAN MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM APPLY IN ORDER
TO APPLY THEMSELVES WITH THE SERVICE DELIVERY AREA OF
THE WORK FORCE BOARDS?
>> WELL, CONTINUUMS DON'T APPLY. THIS MUST
BE AN ELIGIBLE APPLICANT BY LAW, SUCH AS A INDIVIDUAL
NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. IF THAT ORGANIZATION SUCH
AS A NON-PROFIT INTENDS TO APPLY ON BEHALF OF AN AREA
COVERING MORE THAN ONE CONTINUUM THEY CAN DO THAT.
BUT I WOULD THINK THAT'S HIGHLY UNUSUAL.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE. WELL, A
COUPLE ACTUALLY FROM CONNECTICUT. ON PAGE , YOU
SAY, "APPLICANTS MAY NOT UTILIZE CERTIFICATES
AUTHORIZED UNDER SECTION C OF THE FAIR LABOR
STANDARDS ACT IN THEIR IMPLEMENTATION AND MUST
UTILIZE ONLY INDIVIDUAL DETERMINED -- ". COULD YOU
PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT THOSE CERTIFICATES ARE THAT THEY
WE ARE NOT USING?
>> THOSE ARE SUB MINIMUM WAGE OR SPECIAL
MINIMUM WAGE CERTIFICATES ALLOWING PAYING BELOW THE
PREVAILING MINIMUM WAGE.
>> THANK YOU, WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION
HERE.
WE WANTED TO KNOW, PARDON ME, CAN WE MATCH
FEDERAL FUNDS WITH FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THE REQUIRED
FEDERAL FUND MATCH.
>> THE STATUTE FOR BOTH THE SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING PROGRAM AND THE -- THAT IT MUST COME FROM
SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE SUBTITLE THAT CREATED THAT
PROGRAM.
SO YES, FOR EITHER SHELTER PLUS CARE OR SHP
MATCHING SOURCES CAN BE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM
OTHER PROGRAMS.
>> THANK YOU. VERY MUCH.
>> LET ME JUST CAUTION AS LONG AS THE OTHER
PROGRAM DOESN'T PROHIBIT THAT BY LAW, OF COURSE. BUT
HUD ALLOWS THAT. AND WE REGULARLY GET THOSE SOURCES
OF MATCH FROM OTHER FEDERAL PROGRAMS.
>> WE HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION. I'D LIKE TO
GO BACK TO THE QUESTION OF THE CONTINUUMS IN
CONNECTICUT APPLYING IN ORDER TO ALIGN THEMSELVES
WITH THE SERVICE DELIVERY AREA WORK FORCE BOARDS,
WE'RE BLANK ON HAVING SEPARATE CONTINUUMS APPLY.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWABLE IN THIS
COMPETITION?
>> IT'S THREE SEPARATE HOUSING PROVIDERS
UNDER ONE WIS, THE WIS THAT COVERS MULTIPLE
CONTINUUMS OF CARE OF LOCALITIES --
>> WOULD THIS BE A SINGLE APPLICANT
COVERING THREE CONTINUUMS OF CARE UNDER ONE WORK
FORCE BOARD.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH BOARD -- THE
CONTINUUM IN THOSE THREE URBAN AREAS.
>> AND FOR THE HUD PORTION YOU WOULD BE
SUBMITTED A SINGLE ?
>> IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, WE WOULD --
>> YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A LEAD APPLICANT
APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS AND THEY WOULD HAVE SPONSORS
FROM THE OTHER AREAS.
>> YES,
>> OKAY, THAT WORKS.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
>> D.C.?
FLORIDA?
>> YES, WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. IS IT
POSSIBLE TO USE THE PROJECT THAT WAS AWARDED IN
BUT IS NOT UP AND RUNNING YET, THE HUD PROJECT TO GO
WITH THE DOL PROJECT?
>> NO. THIS INITIATIVE IS TO LINK THIS
MONEY FROM HUD WITH THE CORRESPONDING MONEY FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. YOU MADE THAT EARLIER APPLICATION ON THE
CONDITION
THAT YOU PROVIDED RESOURCES FROM IDENTIFIED SOURCES,
SO YOU ALREADY HAVE FUNDING TO DO THAT.
>> RIGHT, BUT I'M THINKING OF THE MATCH AT
DOL PROJECTS FOR THE DOL?
>> YOU ALREADY COMMITTED TO MATCH IN THE
APPLICATION THAT WE FUNDED YOU FOR.
>> WE HAVE MATCHED. BUT THAT PROJECT
DOESN'T NEED THE MATCH. BUT TO GO WITH THE DOL
PROJECT --
>> THERE'S NO DOL MATCH REQUIREMENT. IN
THE DOL PROPOSAL FOR CUSTOMIZED REQUIREMENT WE DON'T
REQUIRE A MATCH.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE A HUD PROJECT THAT
ALREADY HAS BEEN AWARDED ON AN OPERATION TO TIE IN
WITH THE DOL --
>> SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULDN'T BE
APPLYING FOR THE HUD FUNDS IN THE SGA?
>> THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
>> NO, THE SGA IS CLEAR ON THIS, THAT
THE DOL FUNDS AND THE HUD FUNDS IN THIS SGA MUST BE
INTEGRATED AND THE AWARD BE BASED ON HAVING
SUBMISSION TO BOTH PARTS.
>> OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WE HAD
THREE PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS IN OUR CONTINUUM
CARE. ONLY ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE RANKED NUMBER ONE
IS IT POSSIBLE TO PULL ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS OUT OF
THE OPEN THAT WAS JUST SUBMITTED JULY TH ON A
PROJECT?
>> YES. YOU WOULD WITHDRAW AN APPLICATION
FROM THE CONTINUUM OF CARE APPLICATION SUBMITTED ON
JULY , AND -- SUBMIT IT HERE. AND IT OF COURSE HAS
TO FIT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SGA AND THAT IT
ONLY SERVES CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. HAWAII?
>> YES. REALLY QUICK, WHERE IS THE
INFORMATION FROM THE PREVIOUS DEMONSTRATIONS ON
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT?
THEY ARE REFERRED TO ON THE WEBSITE BUT I
COULDN'T FIND THEM.
>> OKAY. IN THE TRANSCRIPT I'LL GIVE MORE
PRECISE INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE CUSTOMIZED
EMPLOYMENT GRANT PROGRAMS ALREADY IN OPERATION AND
I'LL INCLUDE A LISTING OF THEM AND IDENTIFYING
INFORMATION.
>> OKAY, REAL QUICK, WE'RE NOT THE CITY, WE
WOULD APPLY, BUT WE WOULD WANT THE SHELTER PLUS CARE,
SO THAT -- THE CITY JUST LIKE IN OUR CONTINUUM GRANT
IS TYPICALLY THE APPLICANT, BUT THEN AN ORGANIZATION
LIKE OURSELVES IS A SUB RECIPIENT. I ASSUME THAT'S
FINE TOO FOR THE HUD PART ?
>> YES.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ILLINOIS?
>> THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG EMPHASIS. I
MEAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE VA ARE YOU GOING TO BE
CONSIDERED THE VETERAN POPULATION?
>> THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE EXCLUSIVELY
SERVING HOMELESS VETERANS, NO.
WE CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE A LARGE POPULATION,
GIVEN THEIR INCIDENTS IN THE POPULATION, BUT IT'S NOT
ONLY FOR VETERANS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ILLINOIS?
>> ILLINOIS, GO AHEAD?
>> WE'RE DOING SHELTER PLUS CARE. THE DOL,
MONEY CAN IT BE USED FOR THE SERVICE MATCH OR NO?
>> THAT IS A QUESTION THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THIS FORTHCOMING
Q&A THAT WAS SENT FROM A GENTLEMEN FROM NEW YORK.
WE WILL INCLUDE IT WITH THE TRANSCRIPTS AS
SOON AS IT'S READY.
>> ILLINOIS?
INDIANA?
>> LOUISIANA, MAINE, MARYLAND,
MASSACHUSETTS?
>> YES, SIR.
REGARDING THE HUD PORTION, I'M WORKING ON
THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE FUNDS
TO PAY FOR RENT FOR UNITS THAT WE OWN, THAT THE
APPLICANT OWNS?
>> RIGHT. THIS IS THE SAME SET OF RULES
THAT WE USE IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE
>> THANK YOU.
>> MICHIGAN?
>> YES, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> NOW, I'M ASKING FROM THE DOL SIDE.
YOU'RE AWARDING ONE YEAR OF DOL FUNDING, THREE YEARS
OF HUD FUNDS. IS IT REASONABLE TO THINK THAT A
INDIVIDUAL WOULD NEED THREE YEARS OF SUBSIDIZED
HOUSING? WOULD THOSE INDIVIDUALS EVEN IF THEY WERE
SUCCESSFUL WOULD NEED THAT, EMPLOYMENT WOULD NEED
THAT, AND IF IT'S JUST A ONE YEAR OF FUNDING ON THE
DOL SIDE, DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT LOCALLY AVAILABLE
RESOURCES WOULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT WHILE THEY
CONTINUE TO BE IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING FOR THE THREE
YEARS? WHAT IS YOUR THINKING ON THAT BLEND OF UNEVEN
TIMELINE OF THE FUNDING?
>> THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TIMELINE OF
FUNDING IS ESSENTIALLY STATUTORY. THE SHELTER PLUS
CARE PROGRAM BY LAW MUST PROVIDES FIVE YEARS WORTH OF
ASSISTANCE. THIS IS PERMEANT HOUSING, THIS IS NOT
TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE.
AND FOR THIS POPULATION, PEOPLE LIVING ON
THE STREETS, PEOPLE WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS WITH A
SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEM TYPICALLY ARE GOING TO NEED
HOUSING TYPICALLY FOR A VERY LONG TIME. IT MAY BE
FIVE OR TEN YEARS. SO IT WOULD NOT BE OUT OF THE
ORDINARY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE ASSISTED THROUGH THIS
PROGRAM FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS.
>> A WITH REGARD TO THE DOL AWARD, IT'S
SUBJECT TO RENEWAL ANNUALLY BASED ON FUNDING
AVAILABLE AND PERFORMANCE. IN THE TH YEAR THOUGH,
FUNDING WOULD GO DOWN % AND IN THE TH YEAR, %,
AND THAT'S TO ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABILITY FOR THAT SIDE
OF THE PROJECT.
>> MAY I ASK A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. IN A
COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES YOU HAVE A TERM
"INTEGRATED SETTING," WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
>> INTEGRATED, WE MEAN NOT SEGREGATED.
WE MEAN IN REGULAR EMPLOYMENT SETTINGS WITH
CO-WORKERS OR IN SITUATIONS THAT ARE IN THE
COMMUNITY. NON-STEREOTYPIC, WITH SOME POPULATIONS,
PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND PERSONS WHO ARE
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS OR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES,
THERE'S A CHANNELING WITH CERTAIN DISABILITIES TO
PLACE THEM IN NON-STEREOTYPIC EMPLOYMENT SERVICES,
NOT ON PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS OR ATTITUDES.
>> OFF UNDER SECTION OF THE PROJECT
FINANCIAL PLANS FOR THE DOL, YOU HAVE THE THREE PARTS
THAT ARE SPECIFIED AND THEN OVER IN THE NEXT COLUMN
YOU MENTIONED THE DOL BUDGET MUST INCLUDE A SEPARATE
BUDGET OF DETAILED COST ANALYSIS. COULD YOU
DISTINGUISH THAT FROM THE BUDGET NARRATIVE AND
JUSTIFICATION?
>> IT'S THE SAME THING.
>> SAME THING?
>> YES.
>> OKAY, WHERE WERE WE. WE WERE IN
MICHIGAN? MINNESOTA?
>> YES, MINNESOTA.
>> YES. MY NAME IS -- FROM MINNESOTA, I
WAS JUST WONDERING, I READ OVER HERE, CAN YOU TELL ME
HOW YOU DEFINE -- I JUST WONDERED FOR SOME OF THEM
WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS AND OTHER STUFF, DO SOMEBODY
WITH NEEDING -- TO DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF THEIR
INCOME (INAUDIBLE).
>> HELLO, I'M SORRY. JUST PROCESSING THE
QUESTION. IT REALLY DEPENDS IN LARGE PART ON THE
PROVIDER, SOME WILL USE PSYCHIATRISTS, SOME
PSYCHOLOGISTS, SOME WOULD EVEN USE VERY EXPERIENCED
CASEWORKERS. SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC RULE SET BY HUD
IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION IS THAT -- CAN WE
READILY RECRUIT FROM EXISTING SHELTERS THAT HAS DONE
THIS CASE MANAGEMENT OR, YOU KNOW THAT HAS --
(INAUDIBLE).
>> AS LONG AS IT'S AN EMERGENCY HOMELESS
SHELTER, OR YOU'RE SERVING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS FOR
THE LENGTHS OF TIMES SPECIFIED IN THE SGA, THAT WOULD
BE JUST FINE, IF THEY'VE MADE THOSE DETERMINATIONS AT
THE HOMELESS SHELTER.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> MISSISSIPPI?
>> MISSOURI?
>> HAS TO DO WITH THE GENTLEMEN FROM
MINNESOTA'S LAST QUESTION. WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD
YOU SAY RELATIVE TO HUD NOT REQUIRING THAT A
PROFESSIONAL DOCUMENT A PERSON'S LEVEL WITH -- YOU
ARE NOT SAYING SELF-IDENTIFICATION CAN NOT BE
UTILIZED IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND SOME PAST MENTAL
ILLNESS. YOU WANT CURRENT INFORMATION IS THAT
CORRECT?
>> IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING IN THE RECENT
PAST, IF IT'S A DIAGNOSES MADE IN A EMERGENCY
SHELTER A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
TO BE HONEST, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW IF
YOU'VE WORKED WITH HUD, WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC
STANDARDS ON MENTAL HEALTH DISABILITY DETERMINATIONS.
WE'VE BEEN FLEXIBLE WITH PROVIDERS ON THAT. IF
A RECENT DETERMINATION HAS BEEN MADE AT A SHELTER FOR
INSTANCE AND THEY'VE USED A REASONABLY EXPERIENCED
PERSON THEN THAT CAN BE USED.
>> NEW YORK?
>> ARE THERE ANY MORE EXPENSES THAT WOULD
BE COVERED BY THE DOL?
>> DID YOU SAY -- IF A LOCAL WIB
DESIGNATES --
>> DESIGNATES A LOCAL NON-PROFITS AS A
FISCAL AGENT.
>> I WAS GOING TO REPEAT THAT. YOU CAN'T
DO THIS.
>> THIS HAS TO BE A LOCAL WORK FORCE
INVESTMENT BOARD THAT TAKES ON THIS PROJECT. THEY
MAY HAVE SUBCONTRACTS AND WORK WITH OTHER COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS, IN FACT THAT'S ENCOURAGED, CUSTOMIZED
EMPLOYMENT SUPPORTS. BUT THE LEADERSHIP AND THE
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ARE THE LOCAL WORK FORCE
INVESTMENT BOARDS, SOLELY.
>> THE SGA, IT CAN BE THE LWIB OR THE
PROGRAM THE WIA COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT RECIPIENTS or
FISCAL AGENT FOR THE LOCAL AREA ON BEHALF OF THE
LOCAL BOARD UNDER THE WORK FORCE INVESTMENT ACT. IT
DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT AN EXISTING
RELATIONSHIP -- CAN I JUST ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT
THIS A LITTLE MORE AND THINK ABOUT IT AND CLARIFY IT
BY WHAT YOU MEAN WHAT IS A FISCAL AGENT OR WHAT IS
THE LOCAL AREA?
1 >> WE WILL GIVE A MORE COMPLETE ANSWER AT THE END OF THE 2
TRANSCRIPT. THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION.
>> WHAT'S DOL'S COMMITMENT TO RENEWING
THESE GRANTS IN THE YEAR, AND AND AND .
>> AS STATED, BASED ON THE FUNDING
AVAILABLE AND PERFORMANCE WITH REGARD TO THE LATTER
POINT, NO SPECIFIC CRITERIA MENTIONED.
WE'LL BE WORKING AS A COOPERATIVE
AGREEMENT. SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON A CONTINUUM BASIS.
QUARTERLY REPORTS WILL BE INVOLVED.
ANY SIGNS OF TROUBLE WILL CERTAINLY BE
DOCUMENTED. SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY DRAMATIC
SURPRISES THROUGH THE PROCESS.
>> ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, IS THIS IN THE
BUDGET UNDER DOL?
>> YES.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM NEW YORK. IS
THERE ANY CHANCE THAT THE GRANT COULD BE APPLIED BY A
STATE WIA BOARD INSTEAD OF A LOCAL ONE?
>> WE'LL COVER THAT HAS ANOTHER DIMENSION
TO THE BASIC QUESTION ON FISCAL AGENT. MY LAST
QUESTION FROM NEW YORK BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
NORTH DAKOTA?
OHIO?
OKLAHOMA?
>> YES. WILL THE RECIPIENTS OF THE
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT GRANT STAND A BETTER CHANCE
WITH THIS SGA IN BEING FUNDED?
>> THAT'S A QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER. IT
DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF THE PROPOSALS AS EVALUATED
BY THE CRITERIA.
>> AS YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES
THROUGHOUT THE SGA, THE VA, IS IT A REQUIREMENT OF
THIS GRANT THAT YOU COLLABORATE WITH THE VA?
>> NOT A REQUIREMENT, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITY THAT'S OFFERED AS AN EXAMPLE AS ARE
OTHERS.
>> AND BY THE VA, DO YOU MEAN LOCAL
VETERANS EMPLOYMENT AND DISABLED OUTREACH PERSONNEL,
THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT
VETERAN'S EMPLOYMENT?
>> YES.
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
SERVICE PROVIDERS, NOT THE VETERAN'S ADMINISTRATION,
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE YOUR POINT.
>> WE'RE IN OREGON NOW.
>> PENNSYLVANIA?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN DO YOU
ANTICIPATE POSTING THE TRANSCRIPT?
>> WITHIN FOUR TO FIVE BUSINESS DAYS, END
OF THE WEEK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FROM
PENNSYLVANIA. TO ELABORATE FURTHER ON A QUESTION
THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSAL
REGARDING THE HUD FUNDS. ARE WE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A
SMALLER AMOUNT OF MONEY THAN THE TWO TO THREE MILLION
DOLLARS?
>> WE DID SAY APPROXIMATE, IF YOU WERE TO
REQUEST A LOT LESS, I GUESS WE'D HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT
(INAUDIBLE) WITH THE DOL AMOUNT. BECAUSE THEY ALSO
HAVE A RANGE OF AWARD THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING.
>> SO DOES A MILLION A YEAR SEEM OUT OF THE
BALLPARK?
>> FOR AN SHP?
>> NO -- I DON'T THINK WE'VE DECIDED WHICH
WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO YET.
>> WELL, THE RANGE IN THE SGA IS
APPROXIMATELY TWO TO THREE MILLION. SO IF YOU'RE
PROPOSING A SHP, WHICH IS A YEAR PROJECT --
>> I WAS THINKING A MILLION OVERALL, NOT
PER YEAR.
>> WE'LL BE RATING THAT PROPOSAL AS WELL AS
ANY OTHERS WITH THE CRITERIA HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> RHODE ISLAND?
TENNESSEE?
>> YES, I HAVE ONE. I HAVE TWO ACTUALLY.
I DIDN'T NOTICE IN THE REQUIREMENTS IN HERE -- DO YOU
HAVE A NEEDS REQUIREMENT THAT WASN'T STATED AND I
JUST MISSED IT?
>> A AGE REQUIREMENT FOR CLIENTS IN.
>> NO.
>> SO IF FOR EXAMPLE THE YOUTH FUNDS,
THE -- IF YOU FUND -- WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUTH WITH
CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS, IS THERE A OVERLAP THERE
POSSIBLY BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS?
>> OUR EXPERIENCE FROM THE HUD SIDE IS THAT
THERE ARE RELATIVELY FEW YOUTH THAT WOULD MEET ALL OF
THE COMPONENTS OF THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESSNESS
DEFINITION - THAT THEY ARE DISABLED AND HAVE BEEN
OUT ON THE STREETS CONTINUALLY FOR OVER A YEAR.
>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, NASHVILLE
IS ONE OF FOUR COUNTIES AND THIS IS FOR NASHVILLE IN
PARTICULAR -- I WASN'T SURE EARLIER HOW YOU FELT
ABOUT THAT --
>> WELL, WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE -- ARE
YOU ASKING ABOUT THE FIGURE?
>> NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT BE ABLE TO WRITE
FOR JUST ONE AREA OF YOUR FOUR COUNTY REGION?
>> THAT DOESN'T BOTHER HUD AT ALL. WE HAVE
NO CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE NOT COVERING THE COMPLETE
CONTINUUM.
>> AND FOR THE DOL SIDE?
>> AS LONG AS THE LOCAL WORK FORCE
INVESTMENT BOARD IS THE PRIMARY SPONSOR, WE'RE
SATISFIED.
>> TEXAS?
VIRGINIA?
OKAY. THAT'S THE SECOND GO AROUND. MAYBE
WE'VE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE FOR QUESTIONS, SO JUST
OPEN IT SO. WHO WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE NEXT QUESTION.
>> MAINE HAS A
QUESTION.
TALK ABOUT THE OLMSTEAD DOL PART. IF WE
HAD LISTED ONE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROVIDER, DOES
THAT SPEAK NEGATIVELY TO THE CHOICE ISSUE, OR DO YOU
WANT US TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT
PROVIDER AS A RURAL STATE?
>> CERTAINLY YOUR LOCAL CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD
BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, WHETHER ONE IS ENOUGH I CAN'T
SAY. I DON'T THINK WE SPEAK TO THAT, IT WOULD BE THE
QUALITY OF THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT OFFERING, THE
VARIETY OF OPTIONS THAT ARE IN THE DEFINITION, HOW
MANY OF THOSE YOU ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT OR PROVIDE I
THINK WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT.
>> THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION?
>> YES, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO WHETHER THE SGA
IS REALLY WEIGHTED TOWARDS THE CREATION OF CUSTOMIZED
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, OR IS IT ALSO TO PROPOSED
SERVICES AND SUPPORT OF THAT NATURE?
>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.
>> IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE BEING ASKED,
UNDER THIS SGA TO CREATE CUSTOMIZED SUPPORTED
EMPLOYMENT THAT PAYS A LIVING WAGE, OR IS IT MORE
WEIGHTED TOWARDS SERVICES AND SUPPORT THAT ALLOW
PEOPLE TO ACCESS UNSUBSIDIZED EMPLOYMENT?
>> POSSIBLY IT'S BOTH. THIS IS OF COURSE,
IT'S AN EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, AND INTEGRATED NON-
STEREOTYPIC EMPLOYMENT IS THE THRUST OF IT. I'M NOT
SURE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE I
UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. IF THAT WASN'T A GOOD
ANSWER, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK CASSANDRA WILLIS
AGAIN AND WE'LL GO DO A BETTER JOB.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FROM HAWAII. THIS IS
BOTH A SYSTEMS CHANGE GRANT AND ACTUAL OUTCOMES FOR
THE PEOPLE TOO.
>> THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS YES.
>> ARE THERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT RSA RSP'S IN THE FUTURE TOO?
I'M SORRY, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WRITING A LARGE
GRANT -- WE MISSED THE FIRST CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT
OPPORTUNITY A FEW MONTHS AGO, OR THE ONE FROM THE
PAST, BUT IS THAT EXPECTED FROM DOL, CUSTOMIZED
EMPLOYMENT?
>> WELL, WE JUST COMPLETED A COMPETITION --
>> RIGHT.
>> AND IF YOU'RE ASKING WILL THERE BE ONE
NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THERE ARE NO PLANS TO HAVE ONE
NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
>> BECAUSE HAWAII HAS BEEN OUT OF THE LOOP
IN THIS IN GENERAL.
>> THAT'S THE BEST I COULD SAY RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE NO CLEAR PLANS THAT THERE WILL BE ONE.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION?
>> QUESTION FROM PENNSYLVANIA?
>> YES.
>> WE DO UNPAID WORK EXPERIENCE/COMMUNITY
SERVICE, UNDER THE DOL PIECE, ONLY AT NO COST, BUT
COULD WE ALSO USE SOME OF THE DOL FUNDS FOR PAID WORK
EXPERIENCE?
>> YOU MEAN LIKE ON THE JOB TRAINING OR
PAID INTERNSHIPS?
>> YES.
>> AS LONG AS YOU COULD SHOW IN YOUR
PROPOSALS THEY'RE LEADING DIRECTLY TO INTEGRATED/PAID
CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT.
>> USING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT STRATEGIES.
>> WE CAN ALSO DO UNPAID WORK EXPERIENCE
AND COMMUNITY SERVICE?
>> WE HAVE TO GET PEOPLE EXPERIENCED IN THE
FIELD IN THE KIND OF JOB THEY MIGHT BE GOING INTO.
>> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE ANSWER TO
YOU IN THE TRANSCRIPT.
>> OKAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MICHIGAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> YES, MICHIGAN. AFTER THESE GRANTS ARE
AWARDED TO THE WORK INVESTMENT BOARDS, WOULD IT BE
THE LOCAL INVESTMENT BOARD OR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT?
>> WELL THE LOCAL WORK FORCE INVESTMENT
BOARD WOULD BE FOR THE DOL GRANT.
>> CALIFORNIA?
>> YES, SIR.
>> ON THE LABOR SIDE, WE OCCASIONALLY GET
SOME BURDENSOME REQUIREMENTS FOR DATA COLLECTION AND
REPORTING. CAN YOU GIVE US A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THAT'S
GOING TO LOOK LIKE?
>> WE ARE LOOKING TO TRACK RESULTS AND
PROGRESS BASED ON DISABILITY TYPE, AGE, GENDER, TYPES
OF OCCUPATIONS, PLACED, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND
ALSO WE'RE LOOKING SINCE IT'S A SYSTEMS CHANGE GRANT,
WE'RE LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIPS, LINKAGES, LEVERAGING
OF FUNDS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE ASKED TO BE
REPORTED.
>> TO WHOM WILL THE REPORT GO?
>> THE DOL REPORT WILL COME TO THE OFFICE
OF DISABILITY POLICY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, THEN THE
FOURTH QUARTER THERE WILL BE AN ANNUAL REPORT
COMBINING THOSE ELEMENTS, THE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM WITH
THE HUD HOUSING SECTION, AND THEN BACK TO QUARTERLY
REPORTS FOR THE DOL GRANT.
>> DOL AND PROCUREMENT. THERE'S ALSO A
FINANCIAL REPORT THAT GOES WITH THE REPORT. YOU CAN
READ THIS IN DETAIL IN THE PACKET.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM PENNSYLVANIA?
>> GO AHEAD, PENNSYLVANIA?
WE SEEM TO BE IN A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE
WHERE OUR HUD FOLKS AND OUR LABOR LOCAL WORK FORCE
AREA IS ACTUALLY ONE -- ARE HOUSED TOGETHER. WE'RE
ALL PART OF ONE ORGANIZATION.
IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR WAY WE SHOULD
HANDLE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE
TWO GROUPS, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME
SIGNATURE ON BOTH?
>> YOU SORT OF HAVE A HEAD START THERE. WE
STILL NEED TO HAVE A MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT, BUT YOU
CAN EXPLAIN YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES AND THAT WILL
CERTAINLY BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> QUESTION FROM OKLAHOMA. DO YOU HAVE TO
DISCLOSE YOUR DISABILITY FOR CONSIDERATION FOR
EMPLOYMENT, AND I'M THINKING OF THE HIV AIDS
POPULATION?
>> DISCLOSE IT DO THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT
OPERATOR?
>> YES.
>> WELL YOU CERTAINLY NEED TO DOCUMENT THE
PERSON AS THE ELIGIBLE POPULATION AS DEFINED IN THE
SGA, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS. HOLD ON ONE SECOND
PLEASE. WE'RE BACK.
SORRY FOR THE DELAY. WE'LL GIVE YOU A MORE
CONSIDERED ANSWER IN THIS TRANSCRIPT. THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION THOUGH. WE HAVE ABOUT TEN MINUTES
LEFT. ARE THERE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?
>> QUESTION FROM MINNESOTA.
>> GO AHEAD MINNESOTA.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A -- (Low Audio).
-- I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR
QUESTION.
>> THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, --
>> WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION.
>> THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN
THE DOL AGENCY AND THE HUD AGENT INCLUDING?
>> I'M SORRY, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR
QUESTION. IT'S CUTTING OUT.
>> COULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH SOME
INDICATION OF WHAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CONTENT
OF MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE HUD AGENCY
AND THE DOL AGENCY?
>> I CAN NOT GIVE YOU ANYTHING BEYOND
WHAT'S SAID IN THE SGA REGARDING THAT SECTION.
ON PAGE , THERE IS A VERY EXPLICIT
LIST OF THINGS THAT MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE MEMO.
BEYOND THAT THERE ISN'T MORE GUIDANCE. THIS IS THE
SECTION THAT DESCRIBES WHAT SHOULD BE CONTAINED IN
THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> YES, MAINE, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
>> UNDER THE MATCH NETWORK, PAYMENT BE
CONSIDERED AS POTENTIAL MATCHES?
-- TO FUNDING STREAM FOR HUD TO CONSIDER
AS A MATCH?
>> SOMEONE'S PHONE IS RINGING SO IT'S
INTERRUPTING THE FLOW OF THE QUESTION, -- CAN YOU ASK
YOUR QUESTION AGAIN PLEASE.
>> IN DESIGNING THE SOCIAL SERVICES MATCH
FOR SHELTER PLUS CASE, THE MILESTONE PAYMENTS UNDER
TICKET TO WORK, IS THAT CONSIDERED A VIABLE FUNDING
SOURCE.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT LET ME
BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE MATCH REQUIREMENT FOR SHELTER
PLUS CARE. IT'S REALLY ANY SUPPORTIVE SERVICE THAT
ASSISTS THE PERSON TO BECOME MORE INDEPENDENT IN
THEIR HOUSING. AND IT MUST BE A DIRECT SERVICE.
YOU CAN'T INCLUDE THINGS THAT DO NOT
DIRECTLY ASSIST THAT INDIVIDUAL.
AND IF YOU NEED MORE GUIDANCE YOU CAN
CONTRACT YOUR HUD LOCAL OFFICE FOR CLARIFICATION ON
YOUR PARTICULAR MATCH QUESTION.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
>> IT'S OUR EXPERIENCE WITH CUSTOMIZED
EMPLOYMENT THAT IT'S SORT OF A ALL HANDS ON DECK
APPROACH. IS THAT -- I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU
MIGHT RULE OUT UNPAID VERSUS PAID INTERNSHIPS --
>> OUR ANSWER WASN'T INTENDED TO SAY WE
WOULD RULE IT OUT. OUR ANSWER WAS WE NEED TO
CONSIDER IT FURTHER AND GIVE YOU A FURTHER ANSWER IN
THE TRANSCRIPT.
>> QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA?
>> YES.
>> AS A NON-PROFIT AGENCY SERVING THE
HOMELESS, ARE WE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR HUD FOR
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AS A INDIVIDUAL AGENCY OR A
CONTINUUM CARE WITH ANOTHER AGENCY?
>> WELL, TO REQUEST THE HUD FUNDING YOU
CERTAINLY CAN BE A C NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.
TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE COMPETITION,
HOWEVER, YOU DO NEED THE LINK UP WITH A WIA
COUNTERPART IN YOUR AREA.
>> DOES THIS ALSO GO FOR THE DOL TOO? IS
THAT IN ORDER TO GET INVOLVED, WE HAVE TO BE NAMED BY
WIA? I THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
>> THEY HAVE TO NAME THE PARTNER.
>> THE LOCAL WORK FORCE INVESTMENT BOARD IS
THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANT. THEY CAN SUBCONTRACT WITH
OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND GET OTHERS
INVOLVED BUT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE LEAD.
>> HOW DO THEY JUST SUBCONTRACT, DO THEY
JUST DO IT THEMSELVES?
>> I SUPPOSE THAT'S UP TO THEM HOW THEY
DECIDE TO DO IT. BUT THEY'RE IN THE LEADERSHIP ROLE
IN TERMS OF MAKING THOSE ARRANGEMENTS.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> FOLLOW UP QUESTION FROM CALIFORNIA.
OTHER DOL FUNDS, ARE PROCURED. YOU'RE SAYING THIS
DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PROCURED?
>> IT'S UP TO THEM HOW THEY WANT TO DO
THAT.
>> IT'S UP TO THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANT.
>> SOME STATES REQUIRE THAT THEY DO. SOME
STATES DON'T. SOME STATES REQUIRE THAT YOU DO A RFP.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR STATE REQUIRES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES, IF THERE ARE
ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FROM OKLAHOMA. SINCE
YOU'RE ASKING FOR A INTEGRATED NON-STEREOTYPICAL
EMPLOYMENT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU DO NOT WANT US TO
SET UP A ENTREPRENEURIAL BUSINESS?
>> NO, THAT DOES MEAN THAT AT ALL. THAT'S
PRETTY INTEGRATED AND NON-STEREOTYPIC IN MY HUMBLE
OPINION.
>> CALIFORNIA?
>> YES?
>> WILL YOU BE REQUIRING DOCUMENTATION AS
FOR EXAMPLE, SELECTIVE SERVICE?
>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND, PLEASE.
IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
>> WE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER IN THE
TRANSCRIPT. WE HAVE OUR CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT GRANTS
THAT ARE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION, NO FINAL ANSWER
HAS BEEN PROVIDED. THEY ARE OPERATING WITHOUT THAT
REQUIREMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WILL
EVENTUALLY BE. BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER IN
THE TRANSCRIPT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
GOING ONCE, WE'RE GOING TO GO UP TO THREE
HERE, TWICE,
>> PENNSYLVANIA HAS ONE MORE QUESTION.
>> YOU MENTIONED THAT THE AWARDS WOULD
HOPEFULLY BE ANNOUNCED BY SEPTEMBER TH. WHAT WOULD
BE THE TURN AROUND TURN FOR THE START OF THE
OPERATION ON THE PROJECT?
>> SEPTEMBER TH. IT WOULD BE IMMEDIATE.
>> OKAY. SO YOU WANT IMMEDIATE START?
>> YES.
>> JUST A COMPLIMENT, PENNSYLVANIA DID A
REALLY GREAT JOB MATCHING US ALL ON THIS MEETING ON
THE PHONE.
>> WE ALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE MOSTLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST AND
SUPPORT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL
AND THE OPPORTUNITIES IT REPRESENTS. WE HAVE A LOT
OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS. SO WE WISH YOU ALL THE
BEST OF LUCK.
AND IF THE YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOU
KNOW YOU CAN ASK THEM OF CASSANDRA WILLIS. HER NAME
AND PHONE NUMBER ARE LISTED IN THE SGA AND WE'LL BE
POSTING THE TRANSCRIPT IN FOUR OR FIVE BUSINESS DAYS.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THAT WE'LL
CRAFT ANSWERS TO. LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE.
AND AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, IF YOU WANT
TO KNOW WHO FROM YOUR STATE WAS INVOLVED IN THIS,
SEND ME AN E-MAIL. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SHARED
WITH OTHERS IN YOUR STATE, SEND ME AN E-MAIL AND LET
ME KNOW. WITH THAT SAID, ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM IN
WASHINGTON HAVE ANY FINAL WORDS? MARK?
>> I DO JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
INTEREST AND WE HOPE TO GET YOUR APPLICATIONS THIS NEXT MONTH.
>> THANK YOU ALL AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. AND
BEST OF LUCK AGAIN. WE'RE SIGNING OFF NOW.
GOOD-BYE.
NOTE: Here are the answers to questions asked during the call that
DOL and HUD committed to attach to the end of this transcript.
Questions and Answers from the Chronic Homelessness Bidders Conference
Call
Can the customized employment portion of the application support
unpaid work or internships?
No. The employment portion of the grant is to focus on securing paid
work at minimum wage or above for the individuals involved, using customized
strategies.
Does customized employment require disclosure of
disability?
No. It is helpful, but not essential, since one of the main ingredients
in customized employment is negotiation. Voluntary disclosure, authorized by
the job candidate, allows the employer to understand why the job developer may
want to customize a job description on behalf of an individual. However, the
disclosure must be a voluntarily act by the job candidate, who must give clear
authority to disclose the disability during the negotiations with employers.
The permission should be in writing.
Can a State Workforce Investment Board (SWIB) be eligible to
apply for the DOL cooperative agreement?
No. Only Local Workforce Investment Boards are eligible to apply.
Can a Local Workforce Investment Board identify another entity
to serve as its fiscal agent for purposes of applying for the DOL
cooperative agreement?
No. Eligible applicants are only Local Workforce Investment Boards
(Local Boards), or if appropriate, the WIA grant recipient or fiscal agent for
the local area on behalf of the Local Board under the Workforce Investment
Act. This requirement is designed to support the purpose of this
solicitation. The purpose of the DOL Cooperative Agreements and the HUD
grants is to bring the respective expertise and capabilities of both the local
workforce development system (One-Stop Career Centers and their partners) and
the local permanent housing services organizations, to develop and document the
increased employment outcomes anticipated when these organizations combine
their efforts to respond to the employment and housing needs of persons who are
chronically homeless.
Does Section h. of the Workforce Investment Action apply to the
enrollment of males covered by the Selective Service Act under this
program?
Answer still unavailable at this time.
Can the DOL grant or cooperative agreement funds be used towards
the HUD matching requirement for the HUD portion of the effort?
The DOL funds can be applied towards meeting the service match for the
HUD Shelter Plus Care program. The DOL funds cannot be used to match HUD
Supportive Housing Program funds, as the matching funds must be used for an
eligible activity (e.g., acquisition of housing) and supportive services are
not an eligible activity in this competition.
Does the HUD one-strike rule apply?
No. By law, HUDs homeless programs require a formal due process to
determine if a clients assistance in the program shall be terminated.
Where are the ODEP customized employment projects
located?
For information on these projects go to:
www.onestops.info and click, under
resources, the section titled customized/workforce
action.
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