“It has also engendered a spirit of cooperation with private landowners who previously sort of dreaded the knock on the door of a fish and wildlife service person saying they’re here to help them conserve. Because most often the endangered species act has been used as sort of a club over private landowners to stop development or to stop farming activities. Because they want to do the right thing on the ground, what they don’t want is to be put out of business. So this puts dollars as an incentive to have them help do the right thing which they would like to do anyway.”