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Community Liaison Council Meeting Minutes
January 30, 2003, 4–6 p.m.
Natcher Conference Center, Building 45, Conference Room D
DRAFT


HANDOUTS

  • Agenda, January 30, 2003;
  • December 19, 2002, Community Liaison Council Meeting Minutes;
  • Community Liaison Council Member Roster (as of January 30, 2003);
  • Building 33 Briefing Book, including sections on:
    1. NIH History,
    2. Laboratory Biosafety Level Criteria,
    3. Interview with Dr. Rall (8/16/1990),
    4. Map of Northeast Campus, and
    5. Questions and Answers—NIAID on Building 33; and
  • Biosafety in Microbiological and Biomedical Laboratories, 4th Edition, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington: 1999.

WELCOME
Dr. Thomas Gallagher, Director of the Office of Community Liaison (OCL) and Community Liaison Council (CLC) Co-chair, welcomed CLC members, alternates, and guests. Margot Durkin of the Stone Ridge School and Debra Liverpool of the Bethesda-Chevy Chase YMCA were welcomed at the table as liaisons.

ANNOUNCEMENTS
Dr. Gallagher noted that the January 2003 OCL newsletter is in circulation, with a new format and design. In addition to publishing the newsletter, he remarked that Palladian Partners, Inc. provides other planning and support services to the OCL. Palladian staff assignments include the Share the Health event, Web site, and taking minutes at monthly CLC, Agenda Subcommittee, and working group meetings. Dr. Gallagher noted the efforts of Terry LaMotte, Lorraine Bell, and others from Palladian Partners, as well as the work of OCL's staff: Kimberly Cragg, Sharon Robinson, and Isabel Otero, who is a new intern. He also recognized former intern, Walter Mitton, who although on assignment to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), continues to work as a volunteer to the OCL.

PRESENTATIONS

Proposed New Campus Construction
by Stella Serras-Fiotes, Director, Office of Facilities Planning (OFP), Office of Research Services (ORS), NIH

Dr. Gallagher introduced Stella Serras-Fiotes to provide information about the proposed new construction on Campus.

Ms. Serras-Fiotes noted developments, taking place on the southwest side of the Campus, associated with the staging for the construction of the perimeter fence. Anthony Clifford of the NIH Division of Engineering Services reported that a gravel staging area had been fenced in near the northern end of the Building 41 parking lot to provide a secure area for storing fence building materials and housing a field office.

Questions
Ginny Miller, CLC Co-Chair and President of the Wyngate Citizens Association, asked if this area would be permanent. Mr. Clifford said that the dirt and crushed rock will be removed after the fence is completed.

Stephen Sawicki, Edgewood Glenwood Citizens Association, expressed surprise that there had been no prior notice to the CLC that this area would be used for such a purpose. He said this is an area where children in the adjacent neighborhoods played and where residents walked their pets. Richard Sipe, Camelot Mews Citizens Association, said that he, too, was concerned that information about this site had not been presented to the CLC. Ralph Schofer, Maplewood Citizens Association, felt that the OCL fell short on the coordination of information about this project. Ms. Miller said that, while the CLC had been operating more effectively with the neighbors on issues of concern, this was a step backwards.

Mr. Clifford said that other sites were considered, including the dump area that Mr. Sawicki had suggested for this purpose. He said the NIH grounds people were now using this site, and it was not suited for this purpose. Dr. Gallagher noted that this staging area would remain, on a temporary basis, for a year. He said that the site had been selected both because it is sheltered and is the area least visible from the neighboring homes. Dr. Gallagher apologized and said he assumed the burden of not providing timely notice to the Council members and neighbors. He offered to work with Mr. Sawicki regarding the restoration of this space after the fence is completed. Mr. Sawicki recommended grading and nicely refurbishing the area.

History of the Building 33 Project
by Stella Serras-Fiotes, Director, OFP, ORS, NIH

Dr. Gallagher referred the CLC members to the Building 33 notebook. He asked Ms. Serras-Fiotes to present background information on the selection of the planned site for Building 33, a biosafety level-3 (BSL-3) laboratory. Ms. Serras-Fiotes noted 12 to 15 various sites on the Campus where new research facilities are planned or already under construction. She said that the 1995 Master Plan had identified the site at the northeast corner of the Campus as appropriate for a laboratory and parking garage. The specific Building 33 and another at Fort Detrick were included in President Bush's 2003 budget, as part of his biodefense plan. She said she believes the project will be funded. However, she noted that NIH funding for 2003 remains under a continuing resolution.

Ms. Serras-Fiotes said this building includes office, research, and support facilities. She noted that the area's surface parking will be removed and replaced with a multi-level parking garage.

In a preface to his introduction of Dr. Deborah Wilson, Dr. Gallagher pointed out the Building 33 Briefing and a book given to each member, entitled Biosafety in Microbiological and Biomedical Laboratories.

Presentation on Biosafety Laboratories
by Deborah Wilson, Dr.P.H., Chief, Occupational Safety and Health Branch, ORS, NIH

Dr. Deborah Wilson noted that the biosafety level determinations, from safest level one to maximum level four, are a marrying of practices and procedures, appropriate equipment, and facilities. She provided examples and descriptions of these biosafety levels and noted that the NIH level-2 laboratories exceed standard safety levels by providing additional directional air flow systems. A level-one laboratory is similar to a high school biology laboratory. Level two has more practice-requirements, as in a hospital laboratory, because the organisms being studied involve human diseases. Level-three laboratories require primary containment cabinets, because the research undertaken involves human disease organisms with possible public health consequences, although, Dr. Wilson said, for the most part there are interventions or vaccines or therapeutics for these. She mentioned that biological safety cabinets are required to provide environmental, personnel, and product protection. These cabinets clean the air; contaminated air is not recirculated within the cabinet, and HEPA (high efficiency particulate air) filters are used on the exhaust because some agents used may be an aerosol pathogen. Also, there is an air lock, where personnel pass through two doors to access the laboratory. Level four has maximum containment—two HEPA filters, when air is exhausted, air locked passages with gasket-sealed doors, and independent ventilation, because work on dangerous and exotic agents may pose a high individual risk of aerosol-transmitted laboratory infections and life-threatening disease. Dr. Wilson noted that the NIH Building 33 will house BSL-3, not BSL-4 laboratories.

Questions
CLC members asked Dr. Wilson questions about laboratory equipment and the agents under examination. Mr. Sipe asked what HEPA filters are and about disposal procedures. Dr. Wilson explained that these high particulate emergency filters remove a minimum of 99.997% of contaminants of 0.3 microns or larger. She said HEPA filters are used in the biological safety cabinets, often in Building exhaust systems, and in the positive pressure suits worn by personnel at BSL-4. These filters are tested once a year. Dr. Wilson said disposal of wastes and materials is contracted and monitored through her office.

Bel Ceja, NIH Alumni Association, asked about protective gear used by the researchers in labs. Dr. Wilson said the minimum protection is latex gloves and a paper suit, and maximum protection is a 40-pound "space" suit, which has its own life-support and communication system, and gloves with two layers of protection.

Ms. Miller asked about work on tuberculosis and whether it required a BSL-3 or BSL-4 laboratory. Dr. Wilson said that at an earlier time tuberculosis had been studied in BSL-4 laboratories. Dr. Wilson recalled that Ms. Miller, who serves on the NIH Biosafety Committee, had toured a BSL-4 laboratory. Ms. Miller said she did not recall any BSL-4 labs located on the Bethesda NIH Campus. Dr. Wilson noted that members of the CLC, including Ms. Miller, had toured a BSL-3/BSL-4 facility previously used to study mouse pox viruses and other pathogens. When AIDS emerged as a public health issue in the '80s, Dr. Wilson said that maximum containment facilities were needed to house more research animals and personnel to perform aerosol studies with multi-drug resistant tuberculosis. A grant from the French-American AIDS fund royalties was used to renovate Building 41A.

Randy Schools asked about the number of BSL-4 laboratories throughout the United States. Dr. Wilson noted locations in Frederick at Ft. Detrick; the NIH; the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); Southwest Foundation, TX; Georgia State University; Galveston Medical Branch; and globally in South Africa; Winnipeg, Canada; Lyon, France; and the Karolinska Institute in Sweden. BSL-4 labs are under construction at the CDC in Atlanta; Rocky Mountain, CO; and Hamilton, MT.

George Oberlander, Huntington Parkway Citizens Association, asked about any potential adverse cumulative effect of having these laboratories, although interspersed across the Campus. Dr. Wilson said there is no potential for that to occur.

Dr. Gallagher thanked Dr. Wilson for her presentation.

Presentation on Research Needs
by Karyl Barron, M.D., Deputy Director, NIAID, NIH

Dr. Gallagher reminded the members of a question previously posed to NIAID's Dr. Thomas Kindt as to what research was being held up due to lack of BSL-3 laboratory space. He introduced Dr. Kindt's associate, Dr. Karyl Barron. Dr. Barron said she was presenting because Dr. Kindt was called away to Africa and unable to attend this meeting. She remarked that Dr. Kindt remains willing to answer CLC members' questions.

Dr. Barron showed a slide presentation and posed the question, "What if a BSL-3 facility were available today?" She explained that potential and safer vaccines need to be tested in animals—for example, avian influenzas, monkey pox viruses, and the anthrax bacterium, as well as West Nile virus. Dr. Barron noted some research can be performed in BSL-2 labs; however, testing pathogenic mechanisms and learning about the spread of disease from person to person and potential side effects of vaccines would take place in a BSL-3 facility. The new facility would be used by researchers who are already on Campus. Eleanor Rice, Locust Hill Civic Association, commented on humanized antibodies being developed in mice.

Questions
Mr. Sawicki asked how many NIH researchers work in BSL-3 laboratories. Dr. Barron and Dr. Wilson said that hundreds of researchers work with vaccines and fewer than 100 are involved at this time with non-virulent anthrax, West Nile and avian influenza viruses, and pox, which are of immediate and imminent concern. Mr. Oberlander wondered why this research is not done in the existing Campus BSL-4 lab. Dr. Wilson replied there is not sufficient Campus space available currently, and many researchers cannot progress with this research until appropriate space is made available. Dr. Kira Lueders, Parkwood Residents Association, inquired about using NIAID space in Frederick or Rocky Mountain Laboratories for this research where buildings are being constructed. Dr. Barron said that the BSL-3 facility in Montana will be filled to capacity as soon as it's constructed.

Dr. Gallagher remarked that the scientific infrastructure exists at NIH. He referred members to Section 3, page 2, of the Briefing Book, where Dr. David Rall replied to such a question, noting the difficulty he experienced leaving the NIH Campus and its access to a "critical mass" of the best scientists and the "productive research ideas" that he said were outcomes of informal seminars and encounters. It took 20 years to rebuild that type of resource.

Renate Bever, Bethesda Parkhill Citizens Association, asked which agency inspects NIH and its extramural laboratories. Dr. Wilson said her office oversees inspections in Bethesda, and that the NIAID has grants for inspections, with the assistance of her office. She noted that universities have their own safety offices.

Presentation of Map of Northeast Sector of the Campus Showing Building 33
by Stella Serras-Fiotes, Director, OFP, ORS, NIH

Mr. Schofer remarked that all entrances from Cedar Lane appeared to be closed to traffic. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said this was correct. There would be 1,250 parking spaces consolidated from existing surface parking in the new garage. Mr. Schools asked how many surface spaces were being removed. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said that 1,300 places would be removed. Mr. Schofer asked if there had been pollution studies associated with multi-level parking garages. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said that emissions had been calculated previously in association with the establishment of fewer entrances handling traffic from Rockville Pike. Mr. Oberlander asked about what was being built under the "plaza." Ms. Serras-Fiotes said that NIH is no longer building underground parking on Campus.

Dr. Lucy Ozarin, Whitehall Condominium Association, asked whether the new building would house both BSL-2 and BSL-3 labs. Ms. Serras-Fiotes replied that there would be BSL-2 and BSL-3 labs as well as administrative space in Building 33, which will have 85,000 square feet of usable laboratory space. Council members were referred by Ms. Serras-Fiotes to Tab 4 of the briefing book to a map of the sector in which the lab is to be situated. She noted the red line on the map, indicating the perimeter fence, and the orange line, representing the 250-foot security setback from the proposed commercial vehicle inspection (CVI) site/station.

Mr. Schofer offered that to prevent traffic from cutting through the Locust Hill neighborhood, the lanes should be increased to promote movement and noted that a grade-separated lane was planned for the intersection of Cedar Lane and Rockville Pike.

The fence line is shown on the map to be closer to Cedar Lane than the proposed set-back. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said that NIH plans to install an underground water storage facility there, which means the fence had to go on the outside of that area.

Mr. Sawicki asked if there would be a security fence around Building 33. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said there is no security fence planned to encompass Building 33. Ms. Rice asked if anyone was modeling a worst-case scenario.


Presentation on Risk Assessment
by Deborah Wilson, Dr.P.H., Chief, Occupational Safety and Health Branch, ORS, NIH

Dr. Gallagher called on Dr. Wilson to reply to a previous question posed by Ms. Rice. Dr. Wilson said the CLC's recommendation for a risk assessment was reviewed by several NIH offices, and the CLC's good idea is being acted upon by NIH. She said funding has already been set aside for this. Prior to this assessment there will be determinations about hazards and the risks these pose to those working there and the community at large. Before this, Dr. Wilson said she wanted CLC input on how to accomplish this, in addition to the ideas already generated about the hazard/risk assessment. Dr. Mort Goldman, Luxmanor Citizens Association, who previously provided input to Dr. Wilson, had asked that the assessment quantitate the hazards and risks. She said a contract would be awarded to conduct the assessment, and a technical working group would be formed to work with the contractor. Dr. Martin Sanders, who has a background in the Army and in biological and chemical warfare, would lead the contract. The Building 33 Risk Assessment Steering Committee would meet and form an approach, the technical study will be completed, and a report will be made to NIH and the CLC. Mr. Schofer commented that someone in operations research should be represented on the contract. He asked if the contract had already been awarded, and Dr. Wilson said she had to act quickly. She had a task order in place, a contractor identified who was available, and the funds to cover the costs.

To get a broader perspective, Dr. Wilson said the Building 33 Risk Assessment Steering Committee is being formed with representation of CLC members, Ms. Miller and Dr. Lueders, Maryland Senator Jennie M. Forehand, who also serves on the NIH Biosafety Committee, and Dr. Kindt, NIAID, Dr. Wilson, Dr. Gallagher, Ms. Serras-Fiotes, and Arturo Giron, Security Chief, all from the NIH. Ms. Miller noted that Sen. Forehand has already shown support for this building, as reported in the newspaper, and objected to her serving because she is a politician. Dr. Gallagher said he had not attempted to balance the Committee by ascertaining their positions, rather he felt this would be a good group based on their interest and scientific background. Ms. Miller noted that this process should be open and transparent. Dr. Gallagher asked those who had suggestions about the Committee's makeup approach him directly.

Ms. Rice and Mr. Oberlander asked about the building being in progress during the time of the assessment, and whether the results would be completed in time to be useful. Dr. Wilson said that the risk assessment, expected to take 4 to 6 months' time, would be in concert with the design of the building. Ms. Rice wanted to know what would happen if it is determined by the risk assessment that this building cannot be built safely. Dr. Wilson said then that is the answer that will be brought back to the Committee. Mr. Oberlander asked if an environmental assessment was completed. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said that an environmental assessment had not been completed. Mr. Oberlander felt the risk assessment should be done before the environmental documentation.

Other Items of Concern

presented by CLC members

Landscaping at Southwest Corner
Mr. Sipe noted that the southwest corner of the Campus is one of the prettiest areas, and found a problem with the fact that the parking lot is visible. He said he had sent e-mails remarking on the gaps, which allow the garage to be seen, despite the 14 sizable evergreens planted to screen it. He said he hopes the perimeter fence will soften that area. Dr. Gallagher did not recall receiving the email and invited Mr. Sipe to visit him to discuss this further.

Container Removal in Pet Area
Dr. Ozarin noted that boxes and bags provided for collecting pet residue had been removed. Dr. Gallagher said he had removed them. He had received a number of communications asking why these were on the NIH grounds, remarking about the smell, and in general that the dog stations detracted from the NIH. He added that there is a law against walking pets on federal property, although NIH is not inclined to enforce it. Dr. Gallagher said it may work out that the buffer zone can be used to accommodate neighbors with pets. He added that he had recently discussed possibilities for a solution with Dr. Harvey Eisen, Edgewood Glenwood Citizens Association.

Scan Cards for Resident Access/Egress on Campus
Mr. Sawicki said he had proposed a system priced at $25,000 as an alternative to NIH's quote of $600,000 to design a secure system, thus allowing a few hundred residents to enter the Campus through the proposed pedestrian fence entrances to reach the Medical Center Metro Station. Recently he read in the paper that Steve Ficca, Associate Director for Research Services, ORS, NIH, said because NIH had proposed a bus shuttle service, this issue was closed. Lesley Hildebrand, Huntington Terrace Citizens Association, agreed with Mr. Sawicki that the shuttle bus had been put forth in a CLC meeting as the affordable solution to a scan system. Dr. Gallagher said the primary intent was not to find an inexpensive way to resolve this issue, rather the intent was to protect the security of the NIH, while not inconveniencing the neighbors. Mr. Schofer remarked that operating the shuttle bus would be more costly than a $600,000 access system. Dr. Gallagher said the bus shuttle system meets two important objectives: a plan for full security for the NIH and alleviating inconvenience to neighbors by providing a means of access to Metro. He said the intent always has been to maintain the full security of the NIH.

Storm Water Pond
Ms. Rice wondered about the removal and replanting of beautiful trees in the area where the Storm Water Pond is to be constructed by Montgomery County. Ms. Serras-Fiotes said if there is any way to relocate these trees, it will be done. She said that the County will be presenting its 65% design to the CLC at the February meeting and said that no schedule had been announced for pond construction to begin.

Heightened Security
Dr. Gallagher announced a heightened security status on Campus for Monday, February 3, and said he would notify the Agenda Subcommittee if their meeting needs to be postponed.

The meeting was adjourned at 6 p.m.

NEXT MEETING
The next CLC meeting will take place on February 20, 2003.

ATTENDEES

CLC Members

  • Tom Gallagher, Ph.D., Director, OCL, OD, NIH
  • Lorraine Bell, Palladian Partners, Inc.
  • Jeanne Billings, Ph.D., Wisconsin Avenue Condominium Association
  • Bel Ceja, NIH Alumni Association
  • Anthony Clifford, DES, ORS, NIH
  • Jana S. Coe, Chevy Chase View Association
  • Kimberly Cragg, OCL, OD, NIH
  • Jule Crider, Chevy Chase View Association
  • Harvey Eisen, Ph.D., Edgewood Glenwood Citizens Association
  • Morton Goldman, Sc.D., Luxmanor Citizens Association
  • Lesley Hildebrand, Huntington Terrace Citizens Association
  • Kira K. Lueders, Ph.D., Parkwood Residents Association
  • Marilyn Mazuzan, Town of Oakmont
  • Ginny Miller, Wyngate Citizens Association
  • Kristin O'Conner, Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission
  • George Oberlander, Huntington Parkway Citizens Association
  • Lucy Ozarin, M.D., Whitehall Condominium Association
  • Eleanor Rice, Locust Hill Civic Association
  • Sharon Robinson, OCL, OD, NIH
  • Stephen Sawicki, Edgewood Glenwood Citizens Association
  • Ralph Schofer, Maplewood Citizens Association
  • Randy Schools, Recreation & Welfare Association, NIH
  • Stephanie Sechrist, National Capital Planning Commission
  • Stella Serras-Fiotes, OFP, ORS, NIH
  • Andrea Sincoff, Bethesda Chevy Chase Services Center
  • Richard Sipe, Camelot Mews Citizens Association

Alternate CLC Members

  • Renate Bever, Bethesda Parkhill Citizens Association

Guests

  • Karyl Barron, M.D., NIAID, NIH
  • Marilyn Clements, Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission
  • C.R. Creveling, NIH Alumni Association
  • Catherine Dolinski, Gazette
  • Margot Durkin, Stone Ridge School
  • Arturo Giron, ORS, NIH
  • James Hadley, NIAID, NIH
  • Lynn Hellinger, NIAID, NIH
  • Joan Kleinman of Representative to Congress, Chris Van Hollen
  • Debra Liverpool, Bethesda-Chevy Chase YMCA
  • Martin Marino, NIAID, NIH
  • Walter Mitton, NIAID, NIH
  • Robert Ostrowski, DS, NIH
  • Isabel Otero, OCL, OD, NIH
  • Deborah Wilson, Dr.P.H., DS, ORS, NIH
  • Rodney Winchel, OD, NIH
  • Ron Wilson, OFP, ORS, NIH