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GRASSLEY: Before your questions this morning, I want to comment
on yesterday's inaugural speech which was equally divided between
domestic policy on the one hand, and foreign policy on the other.
I appreciate President Obama's focus on responsibility and
accountability, meaning, individual responsibility and individual
accountability as opposed to our collective efforts. In this time of
great anxiety, it was an important message for all of America to hear.
It will take a commitment of these two ideals to turn the country
around.
It also seemed to me that he indicated that he will finish what
President Bush started in Iraq, which is promising for the fragile
democracy for this country of Iraq and quite a departure from the two
years he was running for president when you'd get the impression that,
on January 21st, our last troop would be leaving Iraq. So I'm glad
that that's going to be finished.
And he assured the rest of the world, in addition, on foreign
policy issues, that the United States stands ready to lead the world
through these tough times, tough times that are economic and tough
times that exist because of the war on terrorism.
Tom, of Register?
QUESTION: Senator, do you expect to vote for confirmation...
GRASSLEY: Let's go to...
QUESTION: Actually...
GRASSLEY: Mike Glover?
QUESTION: Actually, Senator, I was on. This is Tom Beaumont.
GRASSLEY: Yes. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
QUESTION: No, that's OK.
Do you expect to vote for confirmation of Tim Geithner? And if
you're still undecided, what factors do you need him to address before
you know how you're going to vote?
GRASSLEY: Well, it isn't a case of being undecided, to answer
your question right now. Maybe 24 hours, I can answer your question
or maybe 72 hours. I don't know. It depends on what comes out today.
But I never take a position on nominees before their hearing is
over. There's no point in having a hearing. Now, you might ask me,
well, why the nice things I said about Governor Vilsack. I did put a
caveat in there that you'll understand that if I said I thought he'd
sail thoroughly, which would imply that I would support him -- and he
did sail through. But I said, as a caveat, that, you know, if
something surprising didn't come out in the hearing. And so I've got
reserve the same judgment for Geithner.
I can expand on what's going to play a factor. It isn't just
taxes, which is probably what's on your mind. That's one.
Number two is he did play a role in the distribution of TARP
money. And so he's going to be questioned by me and other people on
that issue because some of that hasn't produced, for my Iowa
constituents, enough results that they thought we ought to move
forward with a second $350 billion.
And then the third thing is he had a role as president of the
Federal Reserve in the issue of Bear Sterns back in March and AIG this
summer. And we need to explore those things because it seems to me
that the public is going to want somebody that's the secretary of
treasury that's going to produce better results than Paulson has done
at this point.
QUESTION: From your conversation with him, have you gotten the
idea that he does represent a departure from Secretary Paulson on some
of those issues?
GRASSLEY: Listen -- well, I shouldn't say -- I did have a
private meeting with him back in December where I don't think we got
very deep those things. But the two meetings I've had with him since
the first of the year have been devoted entirely to the tax issue. So
I can't answer your question.
QUESTION: Thank you.
GRASSLEY: Mike Glover?
QUESTION: Senator, what do you expect your relationship with new
Secretary Vilsack to be? Are you going to have a special relationship
with him because you're both from Iowa?
GRASSLEY: Well, I think -- I think we -- all of us from Iowa
think we have a special relationship with each other just because
we're from Iowa and we're proud of our state.
But I -- I would not declare to have a special relationship with
him except that every connection I've had with him in eight years, I
don't remember the years he was a state senator or mayor, but I do
remember the eight years he was governor. And I don't know that I
ever had one argument or dispute with him. If it was, it wasn't
anything that ever got personal and we never had any problems
communicating with each other.
I think he -- I've heard him tell other people about he
appreciates my work on case work -- that I got a good case work
policy. And he named one or two things that he was personally
involved in on those things.
And the other thing is that when he would call me as governor, I
would return his calls. And I think he appreciated that. And I
didn't meddle in state policy except for his giving me his opinion on
things that affected the state, which I would expect him to. I didn't
meddle in federal policy.
And I don't -- when we disagreed, I'm not sure that -- that --
I'm not sure that he ever had any problems with the way I ended up if
it was different than what he asked us to do.
And then I can say this, that in eight years that he was
governor, four of those eight years, every other year, I always had my
ambassador's tour, which I think you understand what that is. I won't
explain it. He and his Department of Economic Development always
supported that tour. And under the ethics rule of the Senate, I
wouldn't have been able to have the tour without the ability to raise
money for it and have the state be a fiscal agent for it. And I plan
on doing that again this August. And he cooperated very well with
that and appeared at some of the meetings of ambassadors I had around
the state.
And I remember he was -- I don't know whether it was enthusiastic
-- but he was -- seemed to be a supporter of something that has now
not happened. But I was a lead in the area of what's famously known
as a rainforest, which I hate to bring up anymore now that the money
has been spent. But it seemed to me that he was -- for economic
development purposes, he was behind that effort. He was not a leader
in that area. I mean, he'd come to me begging for money. But in
supporting the local efforts that were going on at that time in
Coralville, and later on in Pella, it seemed to me that he was
supportive.
QUESTION: OK.
GRASSLEY: Can I go on to Joe Morton?
Jim Boyd?
Jane Norman?
QUESTION: Yes. Hi, Senator.
GRASSLEY: Yes, hi.
QUESTION: We're just past this rather extraordinary day here in
Washington with all the people gathered on the Mall, the inaugural,
all the euphoria and celebration going on yesterday. And a lot of
talk during this about Republican and Democrats working together,
reaching across the divide. I mean, not just from the president but
from members of Congress as well.
How -- do you think -- and there's going to be a honeymoon, of
course, for the new president. Do you think this is going to happen?
And how is this sort of euphoria over his election going to affect
legislation here in the next -- in the next few weeks or months?
GRASSLEY: Well, without a doubt, he's got a period of time here
where the public is really behind him. And from the standpoint of the
public being behind him, you're going to see a different attitude in
Congress than if the public wasn't behind him.
And, also, you've got remember that the public is sick and tired
of partisanship anyway regardless of whoever is president. And so
that's a factor that plays in and ought to play in. And we
Republicans have to be cognizant of that and, I think, are cognizant
of that.
So let me see if I can answer your question a little more
specifically. First of all, just as one example -- and he's probably
done this to many senators and more senators more often than to me.
But he's reached out on at least two occasions to talk to me about
issues, one, very generic and the other one very specific. And so
that shows he's trying to do things.
He's had Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel come up and talk to the
Republican caucus last week on the TARP legislation. He's invited
every Republican member of Congress to give him our -- our things that
we'd like to see done. And so I've informed by staff, and I assume
they have because I think there's a deadline on it, to submit some
things that we were interested in.
Then -- so I think he's getting off, not only publicly speaking
about it but also doing some things that show bipartisanship. And
he's -- as long as he's keeps that spirit, you're going to find
Republicans supporting that effort and trying to work for bipartisan
solutions. And I think we would do that until, number one, there
would be two nexuses or departures from that.
Number one, if we find out that the president really isn't
pursuing that course that he's publicly stated, or number two, which
could be to the chagrin of President Obama, if people in his own party
in Congress tend to be partisans in a way that the president doesn't
want to be partisan, that could force some partisanship here.
But if there is a departure from bipartisanship, then I think
it's -- it's our responsibility to have a -- I'd consider ourselves
loyal opposition with emphasis on loyal to have a constructive
alternative. And my emphasis upon constructive so that the public
knows that we are not just opposing for the sake of opposing but
because we think we've got a better idea and be probably own a better
idea because the efforts towards bipartisanship just didn't turn out.
So that's it. Now, give you one example and then I'll stop
talking where I think this got off to a bad start, and that's on the
Children's Health Insurance Program because we were going to work in a
bipartisan way as we did two years ago, and we were working towards
that. And Senator Baucus, I think, was working in that direction.
And all of a sudden, coming from the transition team or from Democrats
in Congress, we need to get this CHIP bill passed and have an early
victory for the President Obama so that he can kind of show the world
that he's thinking a lot differently than Bush did because Bush vetoed
it twice.
GRASSLEY: So, you know, we were forced into the position of
having a reasonable alternative. And that was evidenced in the seven
or eight or nine amendments that were offered last week. But I feel
bad about that because I took on my president and my -- and a majority
of my caucus to make a bipartisan proposal -- or, I mean, to make a
bipartisan product and just hours and hours, not only hours and hours
in the Senate to get that, but hours and hours talking to House
Republicans to get 12 more votes to override in the second veto.
And all of a sudden, you know, that posture, for political
reasons, is dumped over. It's not really for policy reasons because
they want to get it done right now. And who knows? It may not be
done much sooner than otherwise not because we're going to drag our
feet but they've got a lot of things on their agenda because these
nominations and these -- these nominations and these stimulus package
issues are more important than probably SCHIP because it doesn't have
to be passed until March 31st.
QUESTION: Do you think that's a sign for health care reform? Is
that a bad sign for Republican participation in this much broader goal
of achieving health care reform?
GRASSLEY: I raised the question in the -- in my opening
statement last week on SCHIP. And I was assured by Chairman Baucus it
was not the direction that health care reform was going to go.
Mary Rae Bragg?
QUESTION: Senator, do you see any real opposition to Hillary
Clinton's nomination?
GRASSLEY: No. I think it'll probably be a love fest.
QUESTION: OK.
GRASSLEY: Tim Rohwer?
QUESTION: Yes, Senator. Is there any one issue concerning
Secretary Vilsack that may be he should concentrate first? Like
renewable energy or rural economic opportunity or conservation? Is
there any -- I mean, I know they're all important, but would you
recommend that he...
GRASSLEY: You didn't name this, but let me tell you what I think
his major job is. All the regulations of the 2008 Farm Bill aren't
written yet. And I think he needs to get that done. But that
includes conservation, too.
And then I don't know whether this administration is going to
pick up on trade issues, the Doha Round and those sort of things. But
if they do -- and let me say to you and the others listening I just
mentioned stimulus package. This issue of trade has as much to do
with stimulating our economy than anything.
And there's some bad clouds on the horizon there not only for the
United States but for the world. The world trade, I think, had a
downturn of 12 percent last month. The first downturn since 1982 or
3, I think. And that downturn is not good news when you're going into
the worst recession since World War II. And it reminds you of --
there's different reasons for the start of it because in the 1930s, we
had protectionism because of the Smoot-Holly Act that we passed.
But trade just shut down. And that worsened the Great Depression
of the '30s. And I sure hope that doesn't happen here. And remember
that trade creates job.
Anyway, getting back to answer your question. If the Doha Round
is resumed again by this administration, Governor Vilsack needs to
play and will play a very important role in speaking for agriculture
even though he's not a negotiator. The negotiator is just the special
trade representative who will be the Dallas mayor, Mr. Kirk. And I
think he will be approved.
Anyway, that's very important he speak out on international trade
because we've got to export 25 to 40 percent of our grain depending on
which grain you are talking about.
OK. I've gone through the entire list. Anybody else want to
jump in?
QUESTION: Senator, you said that President Obama, then
President-elect Obama, reached out to you on two specific things.
What two things did the president want to talk to you about?
GRASSLEY: Without saying what he said, I think it's fair for me
without disclosing the conversation, the first one was just a desire
to work with me on issues because there's so much things coming before
the Senate Finance Committee. And he pointed out specifically about
my working relationship on a bipartisan way with Chairman Baucus. So
that was just kind of breaking the ice, let's say, sort of
conversation.
And then the second one was on one of his nominees for the
Cabinet. But I don't want to say which nominee.
QUESTION: Were these two separate meetings?
GRASSLEY: Two separate phone calls.
QUESTION: OK.
GRASSLEY: Yes. One of them last week and the other one within
two weeks after his election.
QUESTION: Thank you.
GRASSLEY: OK. Is that everybody? OK. Thank you all very much.