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GRASSLEY: Today, we will witness the swearing in of our 44th
president, quite a historic occasion. Not only is it the first
African-American president being sworn in to this office, but we're
also showing the rest of the world how a peaceful transfer of power
works.
Now, inaugurations, from my point of view, demonstrate the great
power of each American's right and responsibility of citizenship. I'm
sure you have seen the TV crowds that have already gathered on this
Mall to see the oath administered. There's a real air of excitement
here in Washington, D.C. as the country turns another page in its
history books.
Later today, I'll also expect former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack to
be confirmed by the Senate to be the next secretary of agriculture.
The Senate often takes up non-controversial nominations soon after a
new president is sworn in. Governor Vilsack was what we call "hot
lined" on Friday. "Hot lined" means that if there's no objections by
senators, his nomination can be considered without delay and without a
roll call vote.
The last secretary from Iowa was Henry Wallace, who held the post
from 1933 to 1940. It is fitting that we, once again, have a
secretary from one of our leading agricultural states in the country.
Governor Vilsack will do an outstanding job. I've said many times, I
say it again. And I urge all of my colleagues to support him today.
He's learned firsthand in the 1980's from his law practice and
being a mayor of a small town that a farm crisis is not just affecting
farmers; it happens to be a rural crisis that impacts all of the
economy.
I'm ready for questions.
Tom Rider?
QUESTION: Good morning, Senator.
Senator, one thing I'm wondering about is the National Pork
Council has filed a lawsuit against the EPA. They're saying EPA
violated due process rights of farmers by failing to provide an
adequate system to accept reports on emissions that made compliance
with the law possible.
And I'm curious is there anything Congress can or should do in
this area?
GRASSLEY: Well, maybe we should do something, but it's very
difficult to do anything with environmental laws because it bring up
every possible amendment to clean air, clean water, things of that
nature. And I think, with the makeup of the new Congress, if Congress
should do something about it, it would tend to be seen as making the
statute more loose or maybe you can say tightening it up to make it
clear what the EPA could do.
And I don't think the makeup of this Congress is inclined to
doing anything like that. Not to my liking, because I think that
there's very few people here in the bureaucracy of EPA that understand
or care about agriculture. And that's why you get a lot of so-called
mistakes like these procedural things you're hearing about now in this
court case.
That's why so many of those things happened in the first place.
GRASSLEY: Gene, Iowa Farmer Today?
QUESTION: No questions, Senator.
GRASSLEY: Let's go on to Bob Quinn, WHO?
QUESTION: No questions, Senator.
GRASSLEY: OK. Chris Clayton, DTN Omaha?
QUESTION: Excuse me, Senator. Have you heard any questions or
suggestions about the undersecretary positions at USDA? Any names
that have -- that you know are going to be brought up?
GRASSLEY: I've heard no names. I shouldn't say that. You know
what? But I don't recall the name. I did run across the name
someplace last week. But I think name are just being thrown out now
at this point.
Now, let me tell you how I'd react if the secretary of
agriculture was from the south or from California, I would say we need
a Midwesterner and you need somebody very definitely from agriculture,
per se, as an industry. I mean, with dirt under their fingernails,
as you've often heard me say.
In the case where we have Governor Vilsack, I think you're going
to find the opposite. You're going find agricultural interests that
are going to say we need somebody from the south or somebody from
California. But I don't -- I don't have any names that I can recall.
And nor do I think there's been very many mentioned.
Stacia?
OK. Philip from the Register?
QUESTION: Yes, Senator. There was a lot of talking at the
hearing last -- or several -- the -- Governor Vilsack, soon to be
secretary Vilsack talked about the president-elect's goal of ending
childhood hunger by 2015.
What do you think about -- how doable is that? Is that -- and
how serious do you think they are about doing that?
GRASSLEY: Well, you help me recall here because I don't know for
sure what I'm going to say is a fact. But are you sure that behind --
I mean, let me ask you. Isn't behind the Dole-McGovern proposals an
effort to do that? And consequently, since Congress has adopted that
as a goal, your question is still let whether Congress adopts it or
whether Secretary Vilsack says he wants to do it.
QUESTION: Uh-huh.
GRASSLEY: It's still -- the question is: Is it accomplishable?
But I think we have a policy already in place or there's a -- there's
goals like that been set out there by non-profit or non-governmental
organizations to accomplish it.
By 2015, I think that's very, very difficult to accomplish that.
But I don't think long-term, if the world is open to GMOs and opening
not to hamper productive agriculture and, particularly, as we
encourage other areas where there's subsistence agriculture to become
more productive through modern technology or not just modern
technology but better cultivation to begin with and better practices
to begin with, which you could say would be adopting the practices,
let's say, of agriculture in 1930 America.
If you could do that in a lot of places in the world, I think you
overcome it. You also have to overcome from governmental policies,
though. Now, I discussed this with Vilsack after he returned from
Africa in July. I think he went over with Clinton.
And he visited four countries. And I called him before he went
raising this point with him and asked him to report back to me.
Because when I traveled to Africa -- now, it's been a long time ago --
but I traveled there several times. And I don't know why I should
pick out Africa except that's where you see a lot of malnutrition,
starvation, and lack of rain, et cetera, from time to time.
But they have so much natural resources, but they have
governmental policies that keep -- that drive -- well, let's put it
this way. Kind of governmental policies that have limits on income or
to achieve food policy. Well, it drives the farmers into the cities,
and you have slums and -- in the cities. And I've seen them in
Nigeria -- not Nigeria -- in Kenya, as an example.
We need these countries to have government policies that
encourage farmers to produce. And he said he saw some of them it. I
didn't get the impression that it's a widespread that it was when I
was over there. But we -- we've got to have government policies that
encourage people to farm.
QUESTION: What about here at home? What about domestically?
GRASSLEY: Well, domestically, we're going continue to produce
more -- each farmer is going to continue to produce more, but...
QUESTION: But in terms of addressing childhood hunger here at
home. Is that...
GRASSLEY: Oh, I thought you were talking about -- he was wanting
to do it nationally (sic). If he wants to do it domestically, I think
it might be doable.
QUESTION: Uh-huh.
GRASSLEY: Yes. Are you talking domestically?
QUESTION: Well, I think that's -- that's a lot of what -- that's
certainly what they were talking about last week in terms of...
GRASSLEY: Oh, well, I'm sorry. I went a long time to answer...
QUESTION: That's all right. That's...
GRASSLEY: ... something you didn't even ask me.
Well, you know, it might be a little -- you're talking about six
years away.
QUESTION: Uh-huh.
GRASSLEY: It might be a little difficult. But you've seen the
massive number of people that have gone on food stamps. I mean, we
have -- we'd have greater malnutrition if we didn't have the food
stamp program.
QUESTION: Uh-huh.
GRASSLEY: So let me just say I don't know, but it's more doable
in the United States because we don't seem to have this -- like they
do in Europe and Europe prodding Africa and GMOs. We can enhance our
productivity a great deal.
OK. That was Philip.
I think I've gone through the list. Anybody else want to jump
in?
OK.
QUESTION: I want to ask you this, Senator. You've been here
longer than I have. Have you ever seen anything comparable to this in
terms of the number of people that we're experiencing? A couple --
number of people?
GRASSLEY: But my gosh, we shouldn't be surprised because we're
electing -- this is a real historic thing. Think of 150 years away
from freeing of slaves and 300 years before that, the Africans being
in slavery. And to see one of their own, an American -- and we're all
Americans -- one of our own, but of a different race being president
of the United States. That's quite an accomplishment.
And if I were African-American, I would want to be here for that.
I am here and I'm glad they're here. And -- and it's a -- it's a
great day for all of America. But you can understand why it's a great
day for the 15 percent of Americans that are African-American.
So I guess I haven't seen anything like it, to answer your
question. But I'm not surprised, and I'm proud that it's happening.
Anything else, Philip?
QUESTION: No, thanks.
GRASSLEY: Anybody else?
OK. Thank you all very much.