[NIFL-ESL:8555] RE: ESL and ESOL Conventions

From: MARYANNE THORNDYCRAFT (MTHORNDYCRAFT@lakeorion.k12.mi.us)
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To add to the discussion on ESL vs. ESOL, where does ELL, a newer term
yet, fit into all this?

>>> gbitterl@sdccd.cc.ca.us 02/19/03 04:12PM >>>
ESL vs. ESOL? -  As an adult educator, we have been going back and
forth on
this issue for some time. Whereas ESOL is a more accurate term
referring to
our learners, programs still use ESL to refer to their programs. 
Because
ESL is the commonly used term, we decided to use that and not ESOL for
our
new publication "Standards for Adult Education ESL Programs."
Gretchen Bitterlin

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:19 AM
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Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8524] ESL and ESOL Conventions


       Can anyone help me to understand the conventional applications
of ESL

(English as a Second Language) and ESOL (English for Speakers of Other

Languages)?  In my locality, I think ESL often refers to college
programs
and 
ESOL often is used for elementary and high school programs.  I have
seen 
Adult Education English programs referred to as both ESOL and ESL.
       Any clarification of these terms' uses would be appreciated! 
How 
would one explain these terms accurately to a non-native speaker of
English?

It would also be interesting to see if they are used differently in
different 
areas of the country.
       Thanks,
       Solveig Fisher



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