Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h7TH7Y726415; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <000a01c36e4f$9e0ab740$1a01a8c0@cccchs.org> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Sylvan Rainwater" <sylvan@cccchs.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9318] RE: "poem" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 1905 Lines: 50 It's still offensive. The reality of most of the immigrants I work with is that they work their butts off day and night, go to school (if they can get in, given the long waiting lists), clean the house and raise the kids, pay taxes, and get no health care benefits, no welfare, no food stamps. As their children get educated, they may or may not stay with the family and help out. If the child was not born in this country, doesn't matter how well they do in school or how long they've lived in the state, they still can't attend college as a state resident or get financial aid. The immigration laws are so archaic and the INS is so backed up that people have lived and worked and paid taxes here for years, have jumped through all the hoops, and still can't get their citizenship. It seems that you don't work with immigrants or don't see the realities of their lives. Actually I *hope* you don't work with immigrants, because it seems you would be insulting them daily. ------- Sylvan Rainwater mailto:sylvan@cccchs.org Program Managaer Family Literacy Clackamas Co. Children's Commission / Head Start Oregon City, OR USA -----Original Message----- From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Joe Little Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9317] Re: Accept English Only donation? > << Welcome to America. > > > Do what u like. > > > We'll give u tax dollar > As a tax paying immigrant, I take offense in this > "poem". And I think you know that you are wrong, or > you would have added some facts that prove your point. Antje & all, No offense meant, but i see your point, so i'll edit it slightly in keeping with the fact that redistribution of wealth is a many splendored thing: Welcome (back) to America. (Continue to) do what u like. We'll (continue to) give u tax dollar. It's not as pithy tho. Joe
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