Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h7TA2v710710; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <000d01c36e14$12a1c9e0$18aab042@lop.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "ttweeton" <ttweeton@comcast.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9306] Re: Accept English Only donation? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 3117 Lines: 74 Welcome to America. > Do what u like. > We'll give u tax dollar. > > Xenophillically Joe you are so funny.! I am in agreement with what you say. The issue of Bilingual programs ( or not) IS a problem for the children, but a most irritating situation is the immigrant (parents of those children??) who comes here and decides that it is not necessary to learn English( or ver y little of it ) because he/she can get along pretty well (particularly in Miami ) without it! AND finds all kinds of government help in his/her native language just as you stated ( so why learn English if you don't have to!!!!) If you are from Miami you know this but when you call govt. offices here, the first language spoken when answering the phone is Spanish. I personally speak Spanish AND French AND Italian etc...., no problem, BUT...... how presumptious of these people to think that I will automatically understand what they are saying!!!! In this case, with these govt agencies English MUST and should be spoken , AND come first! I ,as a taxpayer, pay their salaries and have a right to expect that I will be helped in "correctly and clearly spoken "English FIRST. To speak in Spanish first , only intimidates me, as Mrs Consumer. I also have rights as a consumer . How can they possibly know who is at the other end of the line?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Little" < To: "Multiple recipients of list" < Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9300] Re: Accept English Only donation? > > One suggestion would be for students to investigate the group (as an > > exercise). Financials should be public, as are mission statements, etc. > > See what percentage of their budget goes for ESL. There is no paucity of > > newspaper articles at relatively easy reading levels that go into an array > > of issues and cases associated with English Only. Some go into employees > > suing employers for their right to speak their native language on the job; others > > tell the exact opposite. And of course, English Only's strong connection to > > right wing, anti-immigrant forces are well documented and easy to understand. > > Laurie, Cathy, and all, > > I love the idea of investigating the financial statement and mission statement of the English Only organization. That's clear,factual stuff. Many folks-- present company excluded, hopefully -- would stear clear of that, opting instead for liberal-rant, leftist- > rave articles from our libero-centric friends in the media. > > > That the group approached you with the unabashed intention to use their > > donation as a PR stint to push "their" political agenda reminds me of a > > slogan on a t-shirt complete w/caps and exclamation points I saw just last > > weekend in NJ: "Welcome to America. Now SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!" As ESL > > professionals, we know that the bottom line is xenophobia. > > Bottom line of what? That slogan? Produced by whom? Probably the vast left-wing conspiracy...but seriously, the t-shirt u saw reminds me of a haiku i read not three > hours ago: > >, > > sincerely, > > Joe >
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