Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h6BL29C17605; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <IAEMKAEDCGLEHGKFKPMDKEBHCAAA.brownpg@jmu.edu> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Pamela G. Brown" <brownpg@jmu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9139] Re: hello X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 4239 Lines: 119 Why must there always be a hidden message in even the simplest statement? Why must people take offense and not give the speaker (or writer in this case) the benefit of the doubt, that no harm was intended? There is such a thing as being too mindful -- and I think that is what we need to be mindful of. Pamela -----Original Message----- From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Quidnunc@aol.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9137] Re: hello Hmmm....all this talk about French being such a wonderful language... But I haven't heard any comments about Hindi or Marathi, which were other languages mentioned in this conversation. I'd be interested to know ways to help those language be maintained in the home. I'd like to know more about those languages in cultures since I am less familiar with them. It is interesting how some languages are valued over others - I think we need to stay mindful of that and the messages we convey through this sort of discussion. By mentioning that French is wonderful, and "should always be promoted" are we implicitly saying that other languages and cultures are not worthy of attention? I don't intend to take away from the pleasant banter, but I do feel we need to be careful of the value judgments we implicitly or explicitly place on languages, people, places and cultures. Members of "the other cultures" really pick this up and oftentimes internalize it or live with a feeling of shame. Jane Rosenthal Language and Education/University of Pennsylvania IELP Instructor/Temple University In a message dated 7/11/2003 2:41:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Susan Ryan" <susanefl@hotmail.com> writes: >Andre. >France is a wonderful country with so many beautiful things that should >always be promoted!! >I wish I could speak their beautiful language! >Susan > > >>From: "m.white" <ma.white@morehead-st.edu> >>Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov >>To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> >>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9133] Re: hello >>Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:55:44 -0400 (EDT) >> >>Andres, >> >>Bon Jour! �You've introduced a new thread and a new personality to the >>listserv. �Hey, it's summer and respites are needed and expected. >> >>Andres, I'd say you have a pretty good command of English. �Although I've >>never heard you speak of course, your email syntax and vocabulary >>demonstrate a certain proficiency with our language. �Follow up with some >>of the >>tips other subscribers have given (classes, immersion environments, >>anglophone friends). >> >>As an aside, my mother is Portuguese as well. �I suffered the typical >>American syndrome - speaking the int'l mother's tongue early, then dropping >>it in favor of "not being different". �How about you? �I realize what >>multilinguists many Europeans are - for the most part Americans are not >>interested in other languages to "your" extent. �This is changing though. >> >>Paris has got to be one of the most beautiful cities I've ever visited. � >>The political relationship between France & the U.S. may still be on shaky >>ground, but I'm not fazed. �When Armstrong does in fact dominate the >>tour.....the win will only further polarize feelings on both side of the >>Atlantic � �;) >> >>Maurice White >> >>Andres Muro wrote: >> >> > I am confused. The tour de france went through a villiage in India, or >>is your husband from france. Do you all have the Outdoor life network? They >>show it live every day. >> > >> > I wonder if NIFL or GW object about us talking about the tour? After >>all, the tour is from a country that we should not be mentioning, much less >>promoting it. Hey, maybe we will get into trouble for this entire thread. >> > >> > Andres >> > >> > >>> usamant@comcast.net 07/10/03 06:46PM >>> >> > I'm from India and I follow it too! One year it went through the village >>my >> > husband comes from..... ! >> > regards >> > Ujwala >> > >> > This message scanned by RAV anti-virus. >> >>This message scanned by RAV anti-virus. > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* � >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >
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